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AIBU?

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Expect sibling to help with parent (just once).

11 replies

Christmasjoy6 · 21/12/2024 22:11

A bit of a long one. Our dad has a degrenrative disease and finds movement difficult. He lives in a lovely sheltered flat with a warden and can take part in activities there but relies on someone to take him out (in a wheelchair) , shopping, do the cleaning etc. I do all of this because I live in the same town. I spend half a day every weekend and pop a night or two in the week. I work full time and have older teenage children.

My brother lives about two hours away and works part time . They have an older teenage child who has high functioning autism . In the past year they have been to visit our dad twice - for a couple hours each time when they were travelling past. I know their child takes a lot of time.

They are due to come on Monday to visit dad for Christmas. I have been today to do dad’s shopping, cleaning etc as usual and have booked a table at a restaurant for us all. I’ve messaged my brother to say we’ll meet them at the restaurant so they can go to dad, spend some time with him and then bring him to the restaurant. I know dad will really like to spend time with them but also, perhaps selfishly, thought it would save me doing it. I’ve done all the standard stuff as usual so they can just spend time with them.

they’ve now said they can’t pick up dad and will meet us at the restaurant becuase their child won’t cope at the flat. I’m annoyed as this will disappoint dad but is also the only thing I’ve asked them to do all year for him. It would, selfishly, be one thing I don’t have to do for dad and give us a ‘day off’. But maybe I’m being really unreasonable because thier child won’t be able to cope going to dad’s flat. Would be interested to hear other people’s views (but recognise I can’t change anything and they’re not going to do it).

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Dollshousedolly · 21/12/2024 22:21

I’d phone or message your DB and say you’re disappointed he won’t collect your Dad. As he knows you do everything and you’d like some help from him. I’d also ask if he’d pay for a cleaner once a week to clean your Dad’s flat.

Rainingandlookslikeitwillneverstop · 21/12/2024 22:23

Autistic person may find unfamiliar restaurant pretty overwhelming and yes going to the flat first first, may tip them over the edge. Perhaps your brother is doing his best to make the visit work?

I understand your frustration at doing everything for your dad - but you can’t compel or force your brother to do more.

no matter how unfair it seems - he can snd will only do what he wants to regarding your father… whether that is based on his other caring responsibilities or because he just doesn’t want to do more - that is his business.

as much as you might like him to do more for your dad - and as much as it may seem ‘unfair’ that you do practically everything - you have to remember - this is your choice.

you may feel pressured that you have to - as he us not ‘stepping up’ more - but you should only do what you can and feel able to sustain.

If that means a carers assessment and asking for help from social services - so be it.

I know as women we feel ‘compelled’ often to do all the caring - but you are not obligated to do anything.

do as much or as little as you want / are able to - that you can control - your brother you cannot.

Ginkypig · 21/12/2024 22:26

I can see both sides to be honest.

although in his position I would try to find a way if there is two parents to tag team. He goes to dad and daughter does something “safe” with mum.

i want to shout of control you should be able to expect him to be able to do this one small thing but I also feel not knowing the child’s needs I can’t say for definite because my experience of having S/children (adults now) with autism means I know that actually they have made situations which have seemed like they would be easy very very different and difficult because they have been overwhelmed or in some other way haven’t been able to cope.
no judgment or blame towards them It is not my S/children’s fault but that is the reality sometimes.
we have had to leave restaurants or change plans etc because things were just not working and it wasn’t worth the payoff to push through.

maybe he knows that it would be horrible for dad because she might kick off in some way and wants to avoid having to put him through that.

or

he is a lazy fucker who is using his child as an excuse to not pull his weight.

i can’t answer that but I can say I’m sorry @Christmasjoy6 you deserve things to be easier for you and I’m sorry this is the situation you are in.

im sending you strength and positive thoughts.

Christmasjoy6 · 21/12/2024 23:39

Thanks all for these replies. I can see I’m being a bit unreasonable - probably just tired!

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Ella31 · 22/12/2024 00:00

Christmasjoy6 · 21/12/2024 23:39

Thanks all for these replies. I can see I’m being a bit unreasonable - probably just tired!

I don't think you are being unreasonable at all.

Ponderingwindow · 22/12/2024 00:09

@gingypig has summarized this nicely

dd and I are both autistic. I also have issues with my parent. I draw some pretty firm boundaries on our visits to make them work. It’s not out of laziness, but I can absolutely see how it would be impossible for someone else to evaluate my motivation.

ultimately, you can only control your own choices. If the current level of commitment is too much for you, then you can’t expect your sibling to step up. You have to simply step back and let paid caregivers fill the void.

Ginkypig · 22/12/2024 00:45

Christmasjoy6 · 21/12/2024 23:39

Thanks all for these replies. I can see I’m being a bit unreasonable - probably just tired!

You are not being unreasonable in the slightest @Christmasjoy6

my post was not taking sides. I can’t know what the reality is so I was sharing my experience to highlight that he may be telling you the truth but that absolutely does not mean that you also don’t deserve better either.

of course you are tired and you do deserve a break.

i very much hope you can get some help in place. To take a bit of the sole responsibility and pressure off you.

happy Christmas i hope it goes well for you.

LostInTheMoonlight · 22/12/2024 00:52

You do what you’re willing and able to do and let your sibling do the same. Neither should be expecting the other to do anything so yes I think YABU.

unsync · 22/12/2024 13:42

Can you use your father's AA to get a cleaner in and lighten the load a bit. Also, as a PP said, have you had a Carer's Assessment?

My sibling doesn't do much either as they live overseas. I have managed to get them to do respite so I can get a holiday. I find it's best to not really factor them in to any arrangements, even when they come and visit.

Winter2020 · 22/12/2024 13:57

You are not being unreasonable but it might be that your sibling just can't do it.

I have a younger child with autism and a 15 year old into music. When my 15 year old performs either me or his dad goes and the other looks after our youngest. If one of us is at work taking our youngest is not an option so no one goes to support my eldest (unless we can ask Grandad for help who is already a carer in his own right) even if it is an important performance for my eldest. Just not possible.

I wonder how your niece/nephew will cope in the restaurant. Their parents might be already anxious about that.

None of that means that it's not shit that you can't get any help.

Going forward does your dad get attendance allowance? Could you help him claim that and use it for a cleaner? Could you do your dad's shopping online and just be at the flat to receive it while you visit him?

MimiGC · 22/12/2024 14:44

Was your brother's Christmas 'visit' to your dad only ever going to be just seeing him at the restaurant and not spending any time with him at home? That seems like the bare minimum. Why can't your brother visit your dad alone occasionally and the autistic child stay with his mum? Two hours away isn't that far, especially for someone who only works part time. He sounds like he's quite happy for you to do everything. Perhaps after Christmas it'll be time for a serious talk about how you can both share the care of your dad a bit more fairly. Your dad's needs are only likely to increase as time goes by.

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