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Not sure how to handle this situation.

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Bequietplease · 21/12/2024 10:24

So I had a cleaner every two weeks for about 9 months, until earlier this year. He was a refugee who'd been in the country for a few years and was studying. He was early thirties, I think.

He was a great cleaner and very respectful. I found him other families, too. Then, I had to let him go because my work dried up. A gave him a long notice period but a few weeks after he left he sent me a very weird, rude text basically implying I had done something wrong to him. I can't remember the wording but it was just really odd. I blocked him, told the other family whom I knew.

A few weeks later he turned up and apologised. We stood outside while he explained, in a very open and vulnerable way that I'd done nothing wrong, it was him. He had trouble communicating sometimes. What I took from our chat was that he had a lot of baggage (from his life and events and separation from family in his home country) and his response to me "letting him go" was a trauma informed response.

I accepted the apology and that was that. Until last week. He messaged me and asked if I could help him find work as he was really struggling to find it. I felt bad for him - it's really tough out there - so I asked if he wanted to come and do some ad hoc work for me.

He did this yesterday. He was fine. I don't feel threatened by him, I feel sorry for him.

But then he asked me if I could see if any other families might need him. This is the problem - whilst I know I can handle him, how can i fully recommend him knowing he might 'turn' on someone else. He's also about 6.5" so imposing height.

I want to help him but can i recommend him in good conscience?

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whatwouldlilacerullodo · 22/12/2024 16:54

I wouldn't want anything to do with a traumatised big man. I'm scared of men like this and stay well away from unstable men (of course, I have history, but think we should all be more careful. He can ask for help from other men).

MollieSugdon · 22/12/2024 17:15

@DeliciousApples to be fair, you're not a mental health expert and if you are, you've not met or assessed this man in any professional, clinical capacity, so saying he's "no threat" is meaningless here.

DeliciousApples · 22/12/2024 17:27

MollieSugdon · 22/12/2024 17:15

@DeliciousApples to be fair, you're not a mental health expert and if you are, you've not met or assessed this man in any professional, clinical capacity, so saying he's "no threat" is meaningless here.

If only registered professionals were allowed to post on MN there wouldn't be many posts lol! It's a forum for opinions. That was mine. However I do take the point someone else made that you don't want to be a PA for this person. I just thought as a one off to get him on his way in another job.

DerekFaker · 22/12/2024 18:20

Ultimately none of us can tell what this man's intentions are and how he will react (although OP seems to have been made uncomfortable by him and I think she should probably trust her gut). Seems best to err on the side of caution though.

Bequietplease · 22/12/2024 18:33

DeliciousApples · 22/12/2024 16:26

He sounds like a decent hardworking chap who freaked out when he thought the one stable thing in this far away country had gone down the tubes and he'd have no income.

I can totally understand that. It's scary being skint and having nobody to help. Poor guy. If that's the worst he does when freaked out, a cheeky text, I don't see him being a threat to anyone.

Would he be in a position to start his own cleaning company? Is there any small business gateway place near you? Does he have a mobile phone he can google local agencies from and sign up to one? He could be interested in working for a local school or nursery depending on how they hire cleaners, check the local authority website for vacancies, there are some up my way in Scotland so it could be an option for a permanent job?
He could put an ad in a local paper?

I'd write all these suggestions down for him. And tell him to put notices up in local shop windows etc.

If he doesn't have a mobile phone and you have an old one you don't need I'd give him it (factory reset) to help him. I'd prob give him £20 Christmas bonus to buy a sim if he didn't have one.

And tell him you'd ask around but your pals have had their pay and hours reduced also so you don't hold out much help. But if you think or hear of anything you'll let him know immediately.

And if you ever need a cleaner it will be him as he's done such a good job in the past and you'll provide a reference to say as much if that would help him if a potential employer asks for it.

You do that and he can't be angry against you. As you say, a man can do anything, so I'd still keep him sweet even though he currently seems harmless.

I don't think this is accurate: I definitely wasn't his only income - no one could survive on just what I paid him every fortnight. So, there isn't that to blame. He was wrong and he owned it, and that's ok.

But I also have no intention of running around trying to create a business for him. I just was asking about recommendations.

He has a phone.

And honestly, I guess who knows what is a story and what is the truth, as someone else pointed out? I'd like to think people are truthful but I literally have no idea.

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Bequietplease · 22/12/2024 18:33

GabriellaMontez · 22/12/2024 16:53

All you actually know about this man, is that when things got tough and you had to let him go, he sent you an unpleasant message.

Everything else is just the story he wanted to tell you.

Do you really want to recommend him to your friends? Because, based on what you've told me, I wouldn't have him work for me, in my home.

Nod, smile and tell him you'll keep him in mind.

This is true, sadly.

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ItOnlyTakesTwoMinutes · 22/12/2024 18:37

This whole situation is so bizarre. I’m baffled as to why you would welcome him back, it’s just inviting drama in.

Bequietplease · 22/12/2024 19:17

ItOnlyTakesTwoMinutes · 22/12/2024 18:37

This whole situation is so bizarre. I’m baffled as to why you would welcome him back, it’s just inviting drama in.

Well, there's been no drama so i'm not sure that's an obvious conclusion.

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prepareforthebacklash · 22/12/2024 19:35

Bequietplease · 22/12/2024 19:17

Well, there's been no drama so i'm not sure that's an obvious conclusion.

This would all hinge on your perception of the word "drama". I'm with @ItOnlyTakesTwoMinutes on this one.

ItOnlyTakesTwoMinutes · 22/12/2024 19:52

Bequietplease · 22/12/2024 19:17

Well, there's been no drama so i'm not sure that's an obvious conclusion.

Yet.

Bequietplease · 22/12/2024 21:13

ItOnlyTakesTwoMinutes · 22/12/2024 19:52

Yet.

well, I did what I felt was right, so time will tell!

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