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AIBU?

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To ask if you were an angry, traumatised teen/young adult

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Notouchingmybhuna · 21/12/2024 10:13

What helped you to be happier and calmer?

Please be gentle.

DC is early 20’s and experienced childhood trauma from an abusive parent. Early teen years were ‘ok’ but since about age 15 they’ve spiralled into reactive, angry, destructive and although it breaks my heart to say it, abusive towards me.

CAHMS were useless, we’ve done loads of private therapy. GP access is awful but they’ve been on anti depressants for a few years.

Constant threats of suicide with a couple of attempts ( but timed so they would be found)

At times, they are happy, engaged, ‘normal’ but the minute I say something ‘wrong’ or they experience the slightest inconvenience, they completely flip out. In a long term relationship but it’s long distance so I don’t think the other person has ever witnessed this behaviour.

I admit I give in to demands because I’m scared they will commit suicide.

If any of this sounds familiar, did anything specific help you or your parent to navigate? I have so many emotions about what I’ve done wrong and I just don’t know what way to turn.

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Elfidela1980 · 21/12/2024 11:39

I had an abusive upbringing and was a ball of internal rage until I was about 35. What helped me was talking about it. I just needed someone objective to calmly confirm what happened wasn’t proportionate, normal or healthy and in some cases, broke the law.

My parents think they did a great job. They believe they’re soul-mates (maybe they are). They’re very critical of us if we show flaws or fail. They minimise, like ‘we were maybe a bit strict’ or ‘oh we’ve had our differences.’ As in, the time my father punched me in the face age seven and split my lip, or the day he back-handed my mother so hard he broke her eye socket, perhaps. I felt as I grew up like I was going mad.

They needed help themselves, both were victims too. As I got older I blamed her for letting it happen but now I see why it worked out like it did between them and I feel sorrow for both of them. I don’t think they were equipped to realise how far from okay it all was. They could both be ‘abusive childhood’ case studies themselves.

My siblings have varying degrees of anxiety and one has been diagnosed with cptsd. All of our lives have been shaped by abuse but none of us are abusers. None of us can readily feel joy or excitement, it’s like our brains just don’t register positive emotions, we need to try to be happy. I’ve had suicidal ideation and so has my oldest brother. We are hyper-vigilant and one of us in particular has serious problems with self-control and empathy. However, he doesn’t have kids as a conscious choice.

I was the first one to realise I couldn’t carry on blaming my parents for my state of mind. They caused me damage, yes, but it was my responsibility to get my head right. A 40 y.o blaming their parents is making excuses, in my view. My father still blames his father for his own traumatic childhood and one is long gone and the other is a very old man. We only get one life, we need to accept what we can’t change and face our own demons. I wish I’d come to the realisation much much sooner. I wish I’d grown up in the internet age where I could have accessed help and information.

I really hope this isn’t going to cause you offence because they’re your child and you clearly love them and I’m sure they’re a nice person in many ways, but abusing you and flipping out if they meet opposition might not be solely down to being an abuse victim; I don’t want to say ‘narcissist’ because it’s so misused it’s basically become meaningless now and anyway I’m not qualified to diagnose anyone. But personality disorders can be caused by childhood trauma, I think?

It may not be that, only that they’re a troubled person who right now is not coping with what’s happened to them, I can’t judge, I don’t know the facts, I’m no expert and am only speaking from personal experience. But I do hear alarm bells in ‘abusive to my parent’ and ‘quite happy unless I don’t get my way/things go wrong.’ If anything I am more comfortable when people are treating me like shit and I get wary when things are going my way - admittedly that’s not normal either.

On a practical level I don’t think you should continually give in to them ‘just in case’ either way. It sounds like you’re being manipulated. Do they still threaten suicide now or is it that the fear of it has never left you? What triggered the previous attempts?

They’ve had therapy, they’re on medication. Have you also had trauma-informed therapy? Could someone qualified help you to learn strategies to interact effectively with a traumatised adult DC who exhibits abusive behaviour? Presumably you were with an abusive partner? And then had your shared child go through a lot? Who helped you? Do you carry guilt? Does DC feel anger because you ‘let it happen’? Are they educated, as an adult, on the challenges the ‘other parent’ faces in these situations? Apologies if any of this is wide of the mark.

Tantrums absolutely can be a response to trauma, I’ve seen them since I was three years old - and I’ve thrown them. I had a hair-trigger temper when I was younger, so do my siblings. Now I have cast-iron strategies, because I have kids, I don’t want to be my parents. I learned how to parent from my best friend’s parents, I had to construct a model for myself. Clearly my DH was here too so I wasn’t making all my decisions alone.

To your DC, holding the threat of suicide over people, going postal when you don’t get your way, can’t be condoned and shouldn’t go unchallenged, regardless of why it’s come to be a person’s coping strategy. They cannot always get what they want, can’t always hear the words that please them. Look at the misery caused on here by marriages with people who must always have their way.

You sort of imply that if DC’s partner saw the worst of it they might well change their mind about their relationship with your DC. If DC can not do the harmful behaviour for the time they’re around - does that indicate they know it’s not right and some of it is a choice, perhaps? Perhaps you’re their ‘safe person’ but still, it’s not good for them to react like that for the own sake.

I am guessing but I think the way forward might take the form of calmly addressing the effect their conduct has on you and not capitulating. How you do handle it is a balancing act, since you feel afraid of what they’ll do and also feel a lot of responsibility. That might be rightly felt or misplaced. Their problems may not be fixable by you but I hope someone will be along soon with more expert advice and resources.

Darkerdreamingdescribe · 21/12/2024 11:44

⬆️ Yep. What they said.

username299 · 21/12/2024 11:48

Have they been diagnosed with anything? If not I would pay for a visit to a psychiatrist and get a diagnosis. It's important because you'll then know what strategies you can put in place.

It's difficult with an adult because they obviously don't have to engage with services. It doesn't sound like they're on the right medication if it's not making any difference. Again, that's were a psychiatrist comes in.

If they're abusive I would get support from your local domestic abuse organisation.

There are several organisations you can contact regarding their suicidal ideation such as Young Minds, Papryus and CALM. You can contact Family Lives for advice on parenting.

If they're in crisis you can contact NHS Direct option 2 and speak to the mental health team.

If the trauma was down to sexual abuse, The Survivors Trust has a good helpline and can recommend specialist therapy services.

DBT might help with managing their emotions.

Boundaries are important as is routine. I would ask them to get a job and engage in treatment if they're going to live with you. If they're abusive then I'd give them an ultimatum.

visitbreakfast · 21/12/2024 11:55

@Elfidela1980

I just wanted to thank you for being so open on here, I relate to a lot of what you said and have found your advice to be helpful and I am going to take control on the new year and explore some options for myself.

borntoblossom · 21/12/2024 11:56

I was a traumatised teen and what I needed when I came back from living with my abusive father, was connection and loving boundaries. Not just therapy and antidepressants.

Not saying that's all you're doing, but it felt to me my problems were being outsourced to doctors and professionals and my mum couldn't actually connect with me, see me, acknowledge what had happened and deal with her own discomfort and guilt about the situation.

Elfidela1980 · 21/12/2024 12:57

visitbreakfast · 21/12/2024 11:55

@Elfidela1980

I just wanted to thank you for being so open on here, I relate to a lot of what you said and have found your advice to be helpful and I am going to take control on the new year and explore some options for myself.

it’s kind of you to take the time to say. I found when I finally began to come to terms with what happened and what ot caused in me that it felt like I was losing an essential part of myself. I really hope you find peace. X

@borntoblossom‘s observation that parental acknowledgement and self reflection around what happened - and actively addressing any guilt around what happened - would have helped us a great deal. A sort of truth and reconciliation era would have been a dream. We didn’t ever get that, just a revisionist denial narrative. That kicked off massive dissonance, which compounded the damage and was possibly worse than the original abuse. It’s grand-scale gaslighting (another of those cheapened words).

My brother believes he can’t forgive when there’s been no acknowledgement. I take the view we forgive for ourselves. Took about twenty years to get to that conclusion though.

Darkerdreamingdescribe · 21/12/2024 13:50

When my teens returned home in chaos. They had the offer of love, connection, acceptance. But they were in such a state is disregulation that all they were capable of was interpreting this as the possibility for physical explosive outbursts.

Just because I was a safe target for their expression of frustration doesn’t mean I was the trigger for their behaviour.

Nor are you op.

I only now able to take this position because they are now the age of full responsibility and I should step out … and recover myself.

The future is hopeful.

Notouchingmybhuna · 21/12/2024 20:31

Thank you all so much for your empathy and so many useful suggestions.

I feel that we need to break the cycle and I need to get past my fears about the consequences of pushing back against some of the behaviours.

Partner is here for Christmas and things tend to me much calmer but you’ve given me the courage to say that things need to change. I have considered that this is possibly a type of personality disorder/issue.

Thank you again for your insights and sharing experiences.

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Octavia64 · 21/12/2024 20:38

A lot depends on what sort of trauma and at what age.

In general the earlier the trauma the more major the impact on personality and adulthood.

If they have Cpstd style symptoms (flashbacks, panic attacks etc) then anti anxiety meds as well as anti depressants, plus propranolol and or diazepam for panic attacks can be useful.

EMDR is good for ptsd and cpstd.

There are many kinds of therapy and this person needs to be accessing the appropriate kind which will depend on the type of trauma (repeated or singular, physical or sexual) and also the age at which it occurred.

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