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Bizarre event for DC in school, confused

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differenttimezones · 20/12/2024 21:55

DC does well at school, usually top or near top of class. There was a test today and the teacher sent DC and 4 other kids to a different room to do the test, where they sat alone. DC said that 3 of the other kids had been accused of cheating previously, by the teacher, in front of the class, not sure about the 4th. No possibility DC cheats as DC usually does better than everyone around them. But one of the "mean" popular girls in the class said loudly to the class that everyone being sent to the other room were "cheaters" and the teacher said nothing, whether the teacher heard or not I am not sure.

DC said they were shocked about it all and found it hard to concentrate, and when they went back into the class DC asked the teacher why they had been moved, and the teacher said that the other children cheated, but that DC didn't cheat, it was DC's neighbour who copied from DC.

So DC gets sent into a different room instead of the child who copied from them, and DC has said that the person who commented on "cheaters" is now spreading shock horror rumours about DC cheating...

I really am completely discombobulated by this. I cannot see any logic or reason behind the teacher's actions, and they must have realised how the "mean" girls would react.

I have raised two concerns about this teacher already this year, legitimate concerns, after I had tried to communicate with the teacher informally, which were acted upon by the school, all then seemed peaceful for a few weeks, now this, so I assume this is all linked. My thoughts right now are wtf to be honest.

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AmICrazyToEvenBother · 20/12/2024 23:35

Anyone else hearing the theme tune to Cheaters in thier head right now? Probably just me 😂

This all sounds very odd.

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 20/12/2024 23:35

Anyone else hearing the theme tune to Cheaters in thier head right now? Probably just me 😂

This all sounds very odd.

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differenttimezones · 20/12/2024 23:35

CydonianKnight · 20/12/2024 23:33

Agree. Very bizarre.

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i am pleased I am not the only one. i can't understand the teacher's motivation, the teacher knows I will raise it with the school

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mouthpipette · 20/12/2024 23:48

differenttimezones · 20/12/2024 23:35

i am pleased I am not the only one. i can't understand the teacher's motivation, the teacher knows I will raise it with the school

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Can I suggest that if you do raise the matter with the school, that you do so in writing ?
It'll allow you to keep a record of your and their sides of the story.
Good luck.

Isittimeformynapyet · 20/12/2024 23:55

SausageinaBun · 20/12/2024 23:25

Were they supervised in the other room?

No!

MolkosTeenageAngst · 20/12/2024 23:58

Must be the only primary school in the country giving the kids a test on the last day of term before Christmas.

SausageinaBun · 20/12/2024 23:59

Why would you send known cheats to work together unsupervised?

Cheating does sound to be rife, according to my DD1 and I'm not sure if teachers bother to anything much about it.

BestZebbie · 21/12/2024 00:02

Maybe they thought it would improve the class grade if there were three cheaters and one person with all the correct answers left together in a room with no adult supervision!

MintShaker · 21/12/2024 00:22

It doesn't really matter though does it.

GildedRage · 21/12/2024 00:25

i could see how this would work; kind of like a logic puzzle.

you can't put 4 cheaters in an unsupervised room together, as they would all cheat.
so 3 cheaters and one good student to a) have the good student present to prevent cheating b) have the good student present to report back to the teacher if there was cheating or c) determine how diabolical the 3 cheaters can be if they manage to get the good student's answers.
4 UK student's though unsupervised in a classroom seems strange.

CydonianKnight · 21/12/2024 01:28

Quite often weird things happen at the very end of term so you can’t be answers as soon as you might otherwise.

It does seem like a logic puzzle. Fox, chicken or grain.

Maddy70 · 21/12/2024 01:39

Sounds like they just spread them out. Nothing to worry about

Seeline · 21/12/2024 10:24

So is this primary or secondary school?

whyonearthinallofthis · 21/12/2024 10:32

Did the teacher move your child to try and see if the person they suspect of cheating tries to do it off someone else? Teacher met be unsure so needs to double check

Querty123456 · 21/12/2024 10:37

Teachers are exhausted at this point in the year and remember, they teach about 300 children a week if they teach secondary. I’m sure they didn’t think as long and hard about it as you are.

Dotjones · 21/12/2024 10:43

The problem is not the teacher separating the cheaters or putting a non-cheater in a room with them, it's the fact that a girl was allowed to bully unchallenged when labelling a non-cheater a cheater. You need to go in hard on this with the school and tear them a new one. Only the following circumstances seem possible.

  1. The teacher heard the comment and ignored it which shows an inability to control a classroom.
  2. The teacher didn't hear the comment which again shows an inability to control a classroom.
  3. The teacher actually believes your child is a cheat, which if false is a serious error of judgment.

In any case you need to come down like a ton of bricks and raise hell with the school, the teacher needs to be confronted (by the school not you) and have their performance carefully managed.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 21/12/2024 12:07

Dotjones · 21/12/2024 10:43

The problem is not the teacher separating the cheaters or putting a non-cheater in a room with them, it's the fact that a girl was allowed to bully unchallenged when labelling a non-cheater a cheater. You need to go in hard on this with the school and tear them a new one. Only the following circumstances seem possible.

  1. The teacher heard the comment and ignored it which shows an inability to control a classroom.
  2. The teacher didn't hear the comment which again shows an inability to control a classroom.
  3. The teacher actually believes your child is a cheat, which if false is a serious error of judgment.

In any case you need to come down like a ton of bricks and raise hell with the school, the teacher needs to be confronted (by the school not you) and have their performance carefully managed.

Or 4. The group were specifically sent out so the teacher could speak to the rest of the class about it without the awkwardness and because the OP's kid wasn't there, they have no idea what was actually said as part of classroom management.

noblegiraffe · 21/12/2024 12:11

A test on the last day of term before Christmas and "cheating" kids being sent to an empty classroom(?) to sit a test unsupervised certainly is very bizarre.

rainbowstardrops · 21/12/2024 12:16

noblegiraffe · 21/12/2024 12:11

A test on the last day of term before Christmas and "cheating" kids being sent to an empty classroom(?) to sit a test unsupervised certainly is very bizarre.

Quite

BibbityBobbityToo · 21/12/2024 12:24

I would raise this with the teacher/head as I would be concerned that this would infer my child cheats and his peers could start name calling etc.

It happened to me when I was about 12, my 'friend' was always copying my work and the teacher accused me of cheating, there was no convincing him it wasn't me. For the rest of the year, he made me do a walk of shame to a single desk at the front of thr classroom whenever we did a test, idiot still never twigged when I consistently got higher marks than my 'friend'.

Bumped into the teacher years later in the checkout queue at Tesco. He recognised me and wanted to chat, weirdo, I couldn't help myself and asked if he could remember accusing me of cheating and humiliating me everytime there was another test. Totally caught him off guard and got him told that I was not the one cheating and his accusations and bullying behaviour destroyed my love of his particular subject for life and my memories of him were any but favourable 😳😂.

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differenttimezones · 23/12/2024 19:05

BibbityBobbityToo · 21/12/2024 12:24

I would raise this with the teacher/head as I would be concerned that this would infer my child cheats and his peers could start name calling etc.

It happened to me when I was about 12, my 'friend' was always copying my work and the teacher accused me of cheating, there was no convincing him it wasn't me. For the rest of the year, he made me do a walk of shame to a single desk at the front of thr classroom whenever we did a test, idiot still never twigged when I consistently got higher marks than my 'friend'.

Bumped into the teacher years later in the checkout queue at Tesco. He recognised me and wanted to chat, weirdo, I couldn't help myself and asked if he could remember accusing me of cheating and humiliating me everytime there was another test. Totally caught him off guard and got him told that I was not the one cheating and his accusations and bullying behaviour destroyed my love of his particular subject for life and my memories of him were any but favourable 😳😂.

Sorry to hear about this and this is the thing - such a low possibility that he didn't know that it wasn't you cheating - so what was his game? Sounds somewhat twisted. Perhaps now is the time to regain the love of the subject!

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differenttimezones · 23/12/2024 19:06

Dotjones · 21/12/2024 10:43

The problem is not the teacher separating the cheaters or putting a non-cheater in a room with them, it's the fact that a girl was allowed to bully unchallenged when labelling a non-cheater a cheater. You need to go in hard on this with the school and tear them a new one. Only the following circumstances seem possible.

  1. The teacher heard the comment and ignored it which shows an inability to control a classroom.
  2. The teacher didn't hear the comment which again shows an inability to control a classroom.
  3. The teacher actually believes your child is a cheat, which if false is a serious error of judgment.

In any case you need to come down like a ton of bricks and raise hell with the school, the teacher needs to be confronted (by the school not you) and have their performance carefully managed.

Thanks for this, I have!

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differenttimezones · 23/12/2024 19:07

mouthpipette · 20/12/2024 23:48

Can I suggest that if you do raise the matter with the school, that you do so in writing ?
It'll allow you to keep a record of your and their sides of the story.
Good luck.

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I have and will, thank you

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differenttimezones · 23/12/2024 19:10

NeverDropYourMooncup · 21/12/2024 12:07

Or 4. The group were specifically sent out so the teacher could speak to the rest of the class about it without the awkwardness and because the OP's kid wasn't there, they have no idea what was actually said as part of classroom management.

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Or 4 - sorry, I don't understand - so that the teacher could speak to the rest of the class about what without awkwardness? You are suggesting that the teacher would be talking to the rest of the class about the children who were sent out, and that that is good classroom management??

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AgileGreenSeal · 23/12/2024 19:11

Go straight to the head.

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