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Should I be happy with what I have

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Vintagecars12 · 20/12/2024 20:35

My husband and I got together young, but we went to university in different towns. He never really wanted to go anywhere or do anything, so after expressing my desire for more than just sitting in and experiencing no change, we decided to split.

Later, my sister married his friend, and I knew I would be seeing him again, so we met up to clear the air and ended up rekindling our love. We've now been together for nearly 20 years and have two children, aged 2 and 5.

With our first child, I did most of the night feeds apart from a dream feed at 10 p.m., even after returning to full-time work. I would go to bed at 7 p.m. just to function, and we ended up feeling like flatmates. However, after having a heart-to-heart conversation, things improved.

When our second child arrived, we were very open about our expectations for helping with roles. He definitely helped more, and we both handled things better with the experience we had.

Since the arrival of our second child, I've worked very hard to maintain our relationship by organizing date nights, cooking meals, sending cards, arranging film nights, and buying little gifts to keep the romance and spark alive. I even found a babysitter in the next town who has been able to help us once a month, and I organized every single one of these arrangements.

Despite my efforts, he has not reciprocated. Every birthday and Christmas, he asks what I want a week before, showing no thought or care. I often end up buying gifts for myself and telling him afterward. He gets mad and asks for links to buy them, but I feel there's no point since it's a joint account, and I've already done all the work.

I often call in favours for childcare so we can have a night away or a meal out. We have no family support, so it’s extremely difficult to find time alone. Hence, I try to create opportunities even when the kids are asleep.

We had a good conversation a few months ago where I expressed my frustrations and questioned if he really wanted us to be together since he never shows appreciation for anything I do. He has since booked a babysitter and organized a day out, which was a positive change.

However, with Christmas approaching, he has reverted to asking, "What do you want?" Our kids have been ill all week, and I have been doing everything because he hurt his foot. This includes stripping beds, cleaning the house, and more, all while working full-time.

Is this normal? Our relationship isn’t bad per se; we communicate well, calmly, and clearly. Yet, I don’t know if I want more than this. I feel sad, lonely, and bored. He says he wants this and loves me, but I think it's just easy for him.

OP posts:
RiceRiceBaby16 · 20/12/2024 21:07

Look at it more simply. If and when you need help wig something - say it there and then. "I'm really exhausted , can you do the night feeds tonight please". "Im running on low could you sort dinner tonight". Sometimes we can expect without actually asking. Make it a point to ask.
And then eventually he will start to get it. Also men like to feel needed. I know he should already be doing these things, but sadly some people can be lazier than others and won't step up until asked, or may even assume they're doing enough. Wrongfully, of course

Tinselskirt · 20/12/2024 21:10

He's a lazy arse. You're running yourself ragged to do everything, including putting in all the effort to give yourself gifts that should be coming from him - what does he actually do?

He never really wanted to go anywhere or do anything, so after expressing my desire for more than just sitting in and experiencing no change, we decided to split.

He hasn't changed in 20 years.

the7Vabo · 20/12/2024 21:19

Another perspective OP. I’ve kids similar ages. I wouldn’t want my husband to organise date nights etc all the time because I just don’t have the energy for it. I do go out for dinner but with girlfriends. When I’m with my family I just want to chill out.
Im a fairly low energy person though.
Msybe you are just different people?

THisbackwithavengeance · 20/12/2024 21:20

Bit harsh to call him a lazy arse just because he's not proactive with present buying which seems to the OP's main gripe.

Can I be honest? You sound quite hard work and difficult to please OP. I think sometimes in a marriage it's nice to just "be" and not constantly rushing around, doing jobs and activities and organising stuff.

He's stepped up when you've asked him to so he sounds a bit lacking in initiative but you probably take over so he steps back not to get in your way. My DH can be a bit like you; sometimes I just leave him to it otherwise I get ordered around like we're on a drill parade.

It's difficult to know what you want from this thread. Do you want permission to leave him? If it's what you want then do so but you have very young DCs. You haven't even said if he's a good dad or a good provider/earner.

In the scale of what I want from a man, the ability to buy excellent presents is really low down on my list.

AppleDumplings · 20/12/2024 21:22

I'm sorry you feel this way. There's a lot of us out there the same. My husband is kind, really really kind, and 100% my best friend but he is totally thoughtless and totally oblivious to it. He doesn't buy gifts, organise nights out, meals out, surprises, anything like that at all. I recently lost my shit with him about, (a new phrase I found on here!), his weaponised incompetence. After 25 odd years I've finally had enough of doing everything, being responsible for everything and making every decision. Makes me feel really sad that I might end up walking away from someone I love because I feel more like their mother than wife most of the time. It's not for lack of trying either.

duckduckgooseduckagain · 20/12/2024 21:23

Regarding gifts my husband of 40 years is the same. Always asks what I want rather than a surprise. He would honestly get me whatever I said I wanted. If I go to buy the grandchildren a present he suggests asking the parents what they need/want whereas I'd sooner buy a surprise. People are just different I guess. I'm also the one who suggests nights out/weekends away/holidays and he goes along with what I suggest. Some people just have no imagination/oomph/whatever. I think you probably need to tell him what you want/need rather than leave it to him to figure out. Not very romantic I know.

TeenLifeMum · 20/12/2024 21:25

I’ve been married 20 years to dh and unsubtly send him links to stuff I would like from about October onwards to give him ideas.

He’s very proactive re housework etc as we both work full time. And he’d try to buy nice things but I’m happy to give him a clue. Equally I need a clue for him too as he’s hard to buy for with a niche hobby. I did feel bad I can’t surprise him but I’m over that now.

Poppyseeds79 · 20/12/2024 21:31

It seems he does step up when you voice to him what you are wanting though OP. Some people are just unimaginative when it comes to taking the initiative on things, it's probably your DH is one of those people.

If he's asking what you want as a present then send him the links for half a dozen things you like and tell him to pick a few out? You're still getting a surprise, and he knows he's not messing it up and spending ££ on the wrong thing.

Next time you're planning a night out why not tell him I can book babysitter for X night, and tell him he can book a restaurant or cinema or something?

Eenameenadeeka · 20/12/2024 21:54

There doesn't sound anything wrong with him to me, maybe just different personalities. You said the reason for breaking up was that he didn't want to go out and do things, you obviously knew that when you married him. A lot of people don't want to go out on dates all the time when they have young children, so going on all the things you arrange might be more than he actually wants to go out anyway and he's still going for you. The Christmas present thing seems pretty normal to me.. my husband asks me what id like as well. Seems better that buying something you don't really want or won't use.

Ilovelurchers · 20/12/2024 21:55

At this point in a relationship, I guess my questions would be:

Does he pull his weight financially, and ensure you both have equal spending money and a secure financial future should you separate?

Does he do his share of household tasks? (Fine if his strengths are different than yours - perhaps he cleans and you garden and cook, or whatever).

Does he tell you he loves you, show interest in your views, praise you often and thank you for your contribution?

Do you laugh together and have engaging discussions?

Is sex good? Is he a generous, attentive and creative lover?

Do you cuddle often and enjoy other forms of physical intimacy than sex?

I am not saying these questions are necessarily better than yours - just making the point that we all value different things in our relationships. Perhaps you give, and like to receive, expressions of love through date nights and thoughtful gift giving.

He might be different. And that doesn't necessarily make him wrong.

It may, however, mean you are incompatible.

When you discuss the relationship, is there anything he lists as being missing for him? If so, have you striven to address that?

And does he accept the importance of the things you feel are missing?

Dontlletmedownbruce · 20/12/2024 22:20

I feel a bit like the other partner here. My Dh is great for buying gifts but I could say I want one thing and he will buy this plus 10 extra things, I know I sound ungrateful but I don't like all the fuss and clutter and find him very excessive. He has the house nearly visible from space with all the Christmas lights. He constantly plans things and never considers rest, we might have something on every single night over Christmas. I'm sociable too but I get so tired from it. I feel like I'm being dragged exhaustedly through his life. I just went into the kitchen and he was playing Frosty the snowman on a guitar wearing a Santa hat and I wanted to punch him in the face. His enthusiasm has me worn down to bits.

I've decided our core problem is an energy mismatch, he probably feels as you do. It's not that I don't care about him I'm just unable to keep up!

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