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Can anyone shed light on this dynamic?

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DaphneLaurel · 19/12/2024 23:56

DP and I are having a lot of arguments lately. From my perspective he seems to get upset with what feels to me to be innocent comments from me. Is it me? An I bring irritating and unreasonable?

Example 1: DP went in to the hospital for medical test (a scan). I asked if the doctors were able to say what was wrong. He got really upset and angry with me because they never give out scan results on the day and 'everyone knows that'. He went on and on about how he was surprised that I asked that question. I said sorry I didn't know. He just wouldn't let it drop, for about an hour. I found it upsetting because I'm not really used to hospital tests and I didn't know that they definitely wouldn't be able to tell him anything on the day.

Example 2. DP and I live separately. He mentioned that he'd been to buy some compost on the way over. I said "Oh is that for your raised beds?". I knew he was planning to build some but i knew they weren't yet built, but he is very industrious, always doing stuff and likes to buy stuff in advance. He doesn't have a garden as such so I wasn't sure what else he would be using compost for. He got very upset and angry at me. Apparently he felt that I was completely unrealistic in asking if they were for the raised beds because they months away from being complete and he would need tonnes of compost, not just one bag. It was for planting a climber apparently. He said it showed how disconnected i am from his life. I said sorry, but again he didn't let it drop. It made me feel a bit stupid tbh.

Example 3: DP has been on the waiting list to be seen about a health condition. He's been on there for months, almost a year. He said that he's called them and he's heard absolutely nothing from them for ages. I said something like 'oh dear, are you sure you haven't dropped off the list somehow?'. He went ballistic at me basically saying that he felt like I didn't trust him to be chasing them and of course he would know whether or not he's on the list. Again he wouldn't let it drop and I felt like I couldn't escape the argument.

Example 4: DP was telling me about his decorator who has been promising to come and finish some work in his house. He was meant to finish it last Christmas and now it's this Christmas and he's still not done it. The decorator promises and then cancels again and again. I asked him gently where his boundaries were and asked if he'd considered finding someone else to finish the work. DP said he was never going to let this guy off the hook and he would hassle him until he came and did the work. I said something like "God you could be waiting another 3 years". DP then got angry with me. He seemed to think that I was making a judgement on him that he would let the situation go on for that long. He went on and on about how I don't trust him. That wasn't what I was saying at all, I just know that even when you hassle people if the guy doesn't want to do it then he'll find a way out. I wasn't saying that I didn't trust DP to make it happen. He said I'm always being pessimistic.

Example 5. Driving out of the train station after picking me up DP says he's going to take a different route back to mine. I said something like "Really? Are you sure this is right? I've never been this way before". He brought this up as an example of me not trusting him. I just honestly didn't know you could go that way.

He's made it clear that I should under no circumstances make any comments whatsoever during parking. He would hate it if I said "What about this one here?" or "That space looks a bit tight" as he thinks it shows I don't trust him. I basically learnt that I have to remain completely silent. I mean literally not a peep.

In summary, he said that I am always questioning him and his judgement and that I don't trust him and I don't trust that he's handling whatever situation he's in. I do trust him and know he is doing his best and does wonderfully most of the time. I don't feel like I'm being critical. It just feels like normal chat from my side. Can anyone give any insights into this dynamic? So confused about what's going on. Is his outrage justified? Maybe I'm a really irritating airhead to be around?

OP posts:
Olika · 20/12/2024 07:32

Just end it. It's just going to get worse as time goes by. His attitude to you sucks.

Winter2020 · 20/12/2024 07:33

You don't live together so that makes it much easier to finish things.

You shouldn't have to second guess everything you say. Imagine how freeing it will feel to date someone who is capable of talking to you normally.

SwerveCity · 20/12/2024 07:35

honestly, he’s a dick.

Commonsenseisnotsocommon · 20/12/2024 07:37

Very clearly, you have gone from being 'lover' to 'mother' and he resents it. You talk to him like a parent to a child and he responds like a bratty teen. I'm not exactly picking up on romance, lust or love in your dynamic! I'd cut him loose as you don't sound a good fit for one another.

Whyherewego · 20/12/2024 07:40

So I can see how some of those things may seem a bit obvious eg 1 bag of compost clearly wont do for a set of raised beds.
But if you're not a gardening person, fair enough not to know.
The point here is that his reaction to your questions is very snappy. Even if he thinks the answer is obvious etc he doesn't need to be rude or snappy back on every occasion. Of course we all snap from time to time, and maybe if he was stressed about the medical tests then I can understand he may snap as an example.
But if I'd done that I'd have apologised later when I was less stressed and certainly this seems a pattern. If you ask me OP, he simply doesn't respect your intelligence and views. And that ultimately should be a deal breaker. I remember asking my exH once why he never asked my views on things and he said there was no point as we'd do it his way anyway. Red flag which I failed to pay attention to until years later!
So pay attention to this red flag op.

coralsky · 20/12/2024 07:44

he's kicking off all the time for no reason, controlling what you can and can't say bu 'punishing you' whenever you step out of line which is abusive. Why are you with him??

tamade · 20/12/2024 08:07

We only have your side of the story, at face value he sounds irritable and sensitive, but maybe you are annoying and tone deaf?

You are not living together, so perhaps it would not be too disruptive to break up now before committing further? You don't seem to like him all that much

SoUnsureWhatToDo · 20/12/2024 08:10

Being snappy if stressed if perfectly normal and understandable. Banging on about something for an hour is not. I had an ex that did this. Then if i shut up during his tirade I got, "so you don't have anything to say then?". If I said anything it just prolonged the argument. If he's like my ex, whatever you do you can't win. I learned to disengage and just wait for the noise to stop.

Sometimes he'd sulk for days until eventually it was always me that placated him. It builds resentment and I went from being someone who was very confident and bubbly to being scared to have opinions.

Autumnblackberries · 20/12/2024 08:23

Urgh. He sounds deranged and like the sort who could turn abusive.
Run.

UnderTheStairs51 · 20/12/2024 08:40

It's the not letting it drop part and belittling you with it.

You might say 'that was a bit of a daft question' and laugh about it (together) but no need to bring it up over and over.

I can see a little bit in some of your examples that it might sound like you are questioning his judgement which can be annoying but you handle this by saying 'yes I am on the list, I've checked'. If you then brought it up repeatedly he would have the right to be annoyed but said once, it's unnecessary.

You don't sound very compatible. You like to discuss things and be able to have a conversation. He sees all questions as challenges and not interest.

AngelinaFibres · 20/12/2024 08:43

He doesn't like you. Everything you do annoys him. Tbf your examples make you sound either very young or a little bit dim. You are not compatible.

As regards driving and parking. In our house the rule is that the person who is driving makes the decision on route and car park and space chosen within that car park. If you are not driving you are not choosing. Sit back and enjoy the ride.

BogRollBOGOF · 20/12/2024 08:52

DaphneLaurel · 20/12/2024 00:32

That's how I feel. I feel like I'm walking on eggshells now. I don't know which innocuous comment is going to set him off.

The good news is that he's not a partner as in shared home and finances so it's very simple to separate.

He's already training you to stay quiet and doubt your intelligence. Why would you want to stay and be broken down by his unnecessary tantrums. All of those comments could have been answered very simply without the theatrics.

mumda · 20/12/2024 08:52

DaphneLaurel · 20/12/2024 00:32

That's how I feel. I feel like I'm walking on eggshells now. I don't know which innocuous comment is going to set him off.

So dump him today and have a lovely Christmas.

NigelHarmansNewWife · 20/12/2024 08:56

DaphneLaurel · 20/12/2024 00:32

That's how I feel. I feel like I'm walking on eggshells now. I don't know which innocuous comment is going to set him off.

If that's how you feel then it's not a healthy dynamic and you should end the relationship. He sounds abusive and he's trying to silence and control you. Where there comes from, who knows, but you don't owe it to him to try to fix his behaviour. Do yourself a big favour and call it quits.

kittybiscuits · 20/12/2024 08:57

MyBirthdayMonth · 20/12/2024 01:17

Maybe he wants out of the relationship but would prefer you to do the dumping. Or maybe he is just a bad-tempered sod.

This. I don't think he likes you very much. Sounds like he wants you to do the dumping for him.

Chocolately · 20/12/2024 09:05

You've more patience than me OP. I'd have put him straight some time ago.
Reconsider this relationship, he is making you miserable. 💐

sinckersnack · 20/12/2024 09:09

It's no fun is it? Leave him....this sort of thing doesn't ever get better.

MadnessIsMyMiddleName · 20/12/2024 09:15

If you're not even living with him OP, then dump him, he sounds like a miserable twat. Believe me, you can do much better than this, which is why I voted YABU.

Starlight1979 · 20/12/2024 09:19

OP, I was with you up to the 3rd or 4th example and then started to think 'are you just going on at him all the time and he's had enough?'. Lines such as

I asked him gently where his boundaries were

DP says he's going to take a different route back to mine. I said something like "Really? Are you sure this is right?"

Would irritate me. Quizzing him on the work he is having done on his house, how he goes about dealing with his builders, giving him parking / driving instructions when he's the one giving you lifts... Sorry to say but you do sound a bit much.

But as others have said, you're just incompatible and seeing as though you don't live together, I would just call time on this relationship and move on.

prepareforthebacklash · 20/12/2024 09:31

Scarydinosaurs · 20/12/2024 05:46

If someone drives in the opposite direction of your house you’re allowed to question it.

It’s a total overreaction on his behalf. It’s not a slight against him as a person if he took an incorrect route. It’s of no consequence. So why turn it into a row?

Sure, question it. To say someone is wrong about something on the basis that you have never done it and don't know either is pretty ignorant.

Scarydinosaurs · 20/12/2024 09:37

Starlight1979 · 20/12/2024 09:19

OP, I was with you up to the 3rd or 4th example and then started to think 'are you just going on at him all the time and he's had enough?'. Lines such as

I asked him gently where his boundaries were

DP says he's going to take a different route back to mine. I said something like "Really? Are you sure this is right?"

Would irritate me. Quizzing him on the work he is having done on his house, how he goes about dealing with his builders, giving him parking / driving instructions when he's the one giving you lifts... Sorry to say but you do sound a bit much.

But as others have said, you're just incompatible and seeing as though you don't live together, I would just call time on this relationship and move on.

But aren’t you ever allowed to challenge your friends or partner? Must you always agree and say “great sounds fine”.

So many times you read here of people passively accepting ludicrous scenarios and posters ask “why didn’t you say XYZ” because normal people DO say things like this to each other.

Someone above just said it was “ignorant” to question a route home that went in the opposite direction of someone’s house. That’s not ignorant - it’s conversation.

If people spend their whole lives obsessing over never being challenged or corrected they’ll be unhappy and cross. Which is exactly how OP’s partner comes across.

Daleksatemyshed · 20/12/2024 09:40

You shouldn't feel you can't hold a normal conversation with him for fear he'll go on and on berating you Op. Even if he's lovely in other ways he's now making you afraid to say anything.
That's not a happy relationship, don't let him wear you down

Starlight1979 · 20/12/2024 09:40

Scarydinosaurs · 20/12/2024 09:37

But aren’t you ever allowed to challenge your friends or partner? Must you always agree and say “great sounds fine”.

So many times you read here of people passively accepting ludicrous scenarios and posters ask “why didn’t you say XYZ” because normal people DO say things like this to each other.

Someone above just said it was “ignorant” to question a route home that went in the opposite direction of someone’s house. That’s not ignorant - it’s conversation.

If people spend their whole lives obsessing over never being challenged or corrected they’ll be unhappy and cross. Which is exactly how OP’s partner comes across.

Fair enough. But we are only hearing one side of the story and a few examples which OP has given and all I was saying was that, she might be quizzing him a lot and giving a lot of criticism to what he's doing to the point he's just had enough.

Bollocksmorelike · 20/12/2024 09:42

He went in about it for an hour!?!? Blimey, he really is determined to make you feel
like shit about yourself.
He thinks he is God. He thinks you should bow down to his superior knowledge without question.
Run, don’t walk, from this tool.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 20/12/2024 09:48

Is his ongoing mental condition being an absolute knobber?

How do you even ever relax? He sounds horrendous.

Bin.

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