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To think illnesses can't come on this quick

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Talkabtit101 · 19/12/2024 19:04

Went to London Tuesday - went to Harry potter studios, and then stayed in a hotel for a couple nights, used swimming pool and went shopping on the Wednesday.

DD (5) got back home this morning and fell asleep a few hours after around 4 then woke up with a 38.5 fever and crying saying she didn't know what was wrong but felt poorly.

Now in our history of illnesses has rarely had a fever so I've succumbed to a wee bit of panic.

Just looking for some advice on do illnesses happen this quickly?? Could've been the only way we'd caught it as was WFH the few days before and DD is homeschooled.

I've gave calpol around half hour ago and fever is now at 38.2.

Posting for traffic and maybe a hand hold because I do have anxiety and ocd and I'm never good at handling illnesses, especially fevers. Thank you in advance.

OP posts:
Talkabtit101 · 20/12/2024 09:16

Sorry I meant

Nurofen @ 10am

Calpol @ 12pm

Nurofen @ 4pm

Calpol @ 6pm

Nurofen @ 10pm

And then if needed Calpol @ 12am

OP posts:
Talkabtit101 · 20/12/2024 09:16

Sorry, heads a little fuzzy at the minute.

OP posts:
MumWifeOther · 20/12/2024 09:31

Talkabtit101 · 20/12/2024 09:16

Sorry I meant

Nurofen @ 10am

Calpol @ 12pm

Nurofen @ 4pm

Calpol @ 6pm

Nurofen @ 10pm

And then if needed Calpol @ 12am

No you don’t need to do this unless she’s visibly in pain and distressed. Please don’t wake her up if she’s sleeping for a dose

Bakedpumpkin · 20/12/2024 09:57

You don’t need to pump in calpol or neurofen for the sake of it!

WhateverThen · 20/12/2024 10:06

Take a deep breath OP. High temperatures are a totally normal run of the mill illness in children. They’re a sign of the body fighting off an illness. I do give calpol or nurofen for them, but I wouldn’t give both unless the child was really sick, at which point I’d want advice from a GP or 111 anyway.

Here’s the NHS guidance to follow https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/fever-in-children/

nhs.uk

High temperature (fever) in children

Find out how to check if your child has a high temperature (fever), what you can do to bring their temperature down, and when to get medical help.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/fever-in-children

Talkabtit101 · 20/12/2024 10:06

Can I please state, my DD is ok the sofa asleep, when she isn't asleep she is crying and coughing saying she doesn't feel very well, she has a few minutes where she will sit. Other than that she is sleeping, after calpol today she ate a yoghurt went to the toilet.

So I'm not " pumping " medicine into her for the sake of it. I'm giving her medicine to make her feel a bit more comfortable as I am sat with her right now to see how she is. Not typing behind my keyboard accusing people of giving medicine for no reason. I also spoke to the pharmacist before giving ibuprofen.

Thank you to everyone else who has been helpful, and to the few posters who on every post can't keep their shitty attitudes to themselves, cheers.

OP posts:
Talkabtit101 · 20/12/2024 10:09

Also temp was just 38.5, before administering the ibuprofen, once again is asleep on the sofa.

( using digital thermometer orally )

Pharmacist asked about any unusual tiredness but I assume the fever and overall feeling crappy is the reason for sleeping and I always knows sleeping to be the bodies way of recovering so I won't wake her for a dose, just like through the night I only gave calpol when fever was prominent.

OP posts:
mumofbun · 20/12/2024 10:35

Sorry if I have just missed someone pointing it out but please be aware there is a maximum number of doses of Calpol and ibuprofen over 24 hours

oakleaffy · 20/12/2024 11:25

gamerchick · 19/12/2024 21:17

Noro is a fastening bug though. Albeit terrifying. All it does is paralysis your stomach. Everything in there gets ejected at force no matter where you are digesting it.

And it's hard to kill. It can stay alive in still water for weeks and alive on surfaces for a while and you're only immune to it for a short time afterwards. It's the only time and other stomach bugs that I use bleach in the house on all the touch points after a good soaping down.

Yes, Norovirus is really tough to kill and only a very few viral particles are needed to sicken someone.

Norovirus is completely unaffected by hand gels and 'sanitisers' too.
All those do is smear the virus around your hands..Soap and water for hands, bleach {Proper bleach} for hard surfaces.

Talkabtit101 · 20/12/2024 11:32

Is currently still asleep. I'm leaving her be and will see how she wakes up, I grabbed some ice lollies too just to replenish the sugar levels also. Has still been drinking fine and peeing as usual, so just going to keep an eye.

Pharmacist said calpol every 6 hours and nurofen every 8. But won't give anymore unless fever goes over 38.5 again, doesn't feel as hot as it was yesterday evening when we first noticed.

OP posts:
Calamitousness · 20/12/2024 16:31

Good advice from your pharmacist. Give her the meds if she needs them. Don’t listen to people who are not medical and not with your child. As long as you’re following the advice given by pharmacist then you’re fine. She may well need the meds for several days. That’s ok.

greengreyblue · 20/12/2024 17:21

mumofbun · 20/12/2024 10:35

Sorry if I have just missed someone pointing it out but please be aware there is a maximum number of doses of Calpol and ibuprofen over 24 hours

Would think a mother would read the dosage instructions…. 🙄

mumofbun · 20/12/2024 18:14

greengreyblue · 20/12/2024 17:21

Would think a mother would read the dosage instructions…. 🙄

I don't know if that was meant to be catty but you'd be amazed how many people I have come across who didn't know this - and as OP seemed to be in a spin and asking recommendations for when to give medication I thought it was worth mentioning...

restingbitchface30 · 20/12/2024 19:14

Always! My 2 and a half year old just had a bug which sent his temp soaring and I could barely keep it under control for 4 days. He’s now left with a cough. It came on all of a sudden.

gamerchick · 20/12/2024 19:20

greengreyblue · 20/12/2024 17:21

Would think a mother would read the dosage instructions…. 🙄

Dude, you wouldn't believe how many people do actually overdose their kids because they've got mixed up and haven't read the bottle. It's worth mentioning.

Auburngal · 20/12/2024 19:31

A year ago tomorrow, I saw my Nanan at her care home. She was in high spirits, looking forward to the Christmas plans that they do.

Left her about 3pm.

At 8pm, can’t remember if my aunt or care home rang my DF and said she was admitted to hospital with pneumonia. She was there for ten days.

it was the beginning of the end as she slept about 20 hours a day, appetite reduced etc. she died 2 months I last saw her.

She was 96

QuestionableMouse · 20/12/2024 19:31

AhBiscuits · 19/12/2024 19:06

Yes they very often do.

I got flu and went from fine to shaking uncontrollably over the course of half an hour.

Ugh I had the same. It was vile.

Askingforafriendtoday · 20/12/2024 19:37

Very helpful post.
And yes they do, OP

Notafanofheat · 21/12/2024 00:00

If she’s only drinking or mostly drinking get her fresh fruit juice not water (and not squash or fruit shoots as they all don’t really have sugar in them anymore)- young kids burn through the sugar they have stored at rapid pace especially when ill and that then makes them more tired/sleepy.

MintShaker · 21/12/2024 00:17

If the poor wee soul is home schooled she'll not have built up the resistance that normal children do through daily contact with sniffles etc so she's bound to catch anything that's going when she is allowed to venture into the outside world.

MintShaker · 21/12/2024 00:21

MereDintofPandiculation · 19/12/2024 19:46

My memory is that you have to add one degree to underarm temperature, but I can’t remember whether that was C or F.

Go with the oral.

I'm.a nurse. Never ever take a temperature orally. That only happens in very old tv shows

loropianalover · 21/12/2024 00:21

Auburngal · 20/12/2024 19:31

A year ago tomorrow, I saw my Nanan at her care home. She was in high spirits, looking forward to the Christmas plans that they do.

Left her about 3pm.

At 8pm, can’t remember if my aunt or care home rang my DF and said she was admitted to hospital with pneumonia. She was there for ten days.

it was the beginning of the end as she slept about 20 hours a day, appetite reduced etc. she died 2 months I last saw her.

She was 96

I don’t think this is very helpful to a clearly panicked OP 😂

DisabledDemon · 21/12/2024 00:22

Well, I had my Covid jab this morning and now feel terrible. That’s pretty quick.

ProfTeeCee · 21/12/2024 07:51

Talkabtit101 · 19/12/2024 19:12

@Merryoldgoat

No this is not the first time, but it usually is a committing bug that lasts a few hours, only temps have been when very younger and after jabs.

Thank you everyone else, the temp I believe is coming down by touch as is currently sleeping. Does anyone know with a digital thermometer which is the most accurate way to test? As underarm said 37.5 but oral said 38.4

Oral is more accurate.
High temps like those you describe are likely due to a viral illness which can come on really quickly.

ProfTeeCee · 21/12/2024 07:58

MumWifeOther · 19/12/2024 23:29

Reading some of these comments I think it’s really important for us parents to be aware of what the purpose of a fever is.

Our bodies increase their temperature to make it harder for the pathogen to multiply. Interferring with this process by giving calpol or nurofen effectively makes it harder for our body to fight off the virus / bacteria. This can prolong recovery and actually makes it easier for pathogens to get deeper into the tissues sometimes leading to more serious complications.

Having a fever obviously makes us feel crap, but we’re not supposed to do anything besides rest and sleep, and actually more often than not, also avoid food, while our bodies recover.
Often, people give calpol etc and the children might go back to playing / normal activities, when actually they should be resting.

Some people believe that not giving calpol increases the risk of febrile seizures - this isn’t true. It’s a drastic change in temperature that does this so the advice is to avoid cold flannels, artificially cooling the body etc.

The overuse of calpol is a worrying trend and it’s not without risk. There is evidence that it depletes glutathione and excess usage of paracetamol is associated with increased rates of asthma, liver, kidney and heart damage. This is without considering the awful ingredients in a standard bottle.

I know lots of people may not believe me but you can verify this here using the NICE guidelines:

https://gpnotebook.com/en-GB/pages/infectious-disease/nice-guidance-use-of-paracetamol-and-ibuprofen-for-management-of-fever-in-child-under-5-years-old

I have 3 kids, my eldest being 12, and thankfully, I have only ever used calpol twice. Of course if they were in severe pain with a toothache or earache etc then I would give them a dose, but for managing fevers etc, we’ve always done lots of tlc and immune support.

My advice always is to watch the child and not the fever 🙏🏽

100% agree with this post.

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