To find my landlords behaviour very intrusive!

[ThatPinkAnt]

So my 11 year old Dd and I got served with a section 21 no fault eviction back in June because they say they want to sell their property. We were given until mid August to move and were later served with court papers through which I stated my side of the story.During our 6 years stay in that flat,we were faced with months of no water or electricity and out landlord was very uncooperative.They only compensated me £127 pounds recently just to look good in the eyes of the court.They only just installed smoke and fire alarms, a new hot water cylinder inside our property right shortly before sending us the eviction notice.Prior to that,It was a nightmare just to get a plumber to come and fix our problems. I had to buy a heater for my Dds room because their ones would not last for some strange reason.Taps would not last and leak because the plumbers they sent us used secondhand taps and we live in an area of serious hard water.
We are not the only tenants this landlord is evicting, they are accused of extortion and are currently being investigated. Anyway onto my landlord's behaviour, we went into court a few weeks ago and agreed on the date we should be out before bailiffs. The judge said I could ask for some more time if needed.So now weeks down the line I receive in my post companies offering hire services to help us move, I have never contacted any of these companies. Then a week later one of the employees of my landlord sends me a text at around 5pm, asking me if they could send down an auctioneer to view the property the following day.Now to me this was rather shortnotice and I was not okey with it,so I kindly declined.Later I see a missed call from the so-called auctioneer,I did not call them back nor consented to my number being given out like that.Then yesterday, I receive an email from the landlord/lady claiming that she heard that we moved out last weekend and if I could please hand her the keys.I never told her or anybody such a thing and it really annoyed me.I have responded back to her asking where she got that info and that I find it rather creepy and intrusive.Anyway we do have a new property lined up for end of January and I was going to ask for some more time as the tenant in there is vacating in the beginning of January, but judging by my landlord/lady's behaviour I don't see it happening. Their behaviour is really ruining my Christmas.

I don’t think you’re in a position to complain that they are ruining Christmas when you should have been out of their property months before Christmas and you have probably cost them a small fortune.

You got a shit landlord, and your landlord got a shit tenant.

You were asked to leave a property you rent from someone else, refused and made them go through court (and the associated costs) to get you out and now you're angry because you got some leaflets through the door and they asked if an auctioneer could view the property?

I suspect the answer will be a resounding no to the favour you're about to ask them about extra time.

You just need to leave.

You were supposed to be out by August!
Your Christmas would be so much better if you were settled in a new home already.
Your LL does sound awful and if they behaved illegally they should be reported but the fact that a judge allowed your eviction suggests its valid.

The poor behaviour of your landlord throughout your tenancy has no bearing on the court process that you opted to go through by not moving out and is irrelevant.

Why can't you move into the new property as soon as the current tenant vacates? Why do you want yet more time in this current property which you hate so much?

Bizarre post. I doubt this landlord is able to do you any favours. I know of you need to get a council property you are told to sit tight but this doesn't seem to be the case here. It's not really the landlord who is spoiling Xmas?!

Your landlord has spoiled your Xmas by you staying in their property 5 months longer than you should have, and costing them a fortune in legal fees??

Okay then.

Agreed, your landlord sounds shit and there were routes you could have taken to resolve that. But, they want their property back. Sure, ask for the extension, but you already had 5 months so they don't have to.

Your LL sounds awful but you've just lived up to the bad name given to many Tenants.

Seems already people are posting without knowing the tenants rights.

By law the tenant can stay beyond the section 21. Of course if op finds a new home them she can leave asap /before bailiffs which would be the right thing to do. In this case op has something lined up for January. Hopefully that will work out for op .

But many people have to go through the full eviction process if they have no where to go, can't find another private rental. Local councils tell people to stay until they are evicted. If the tenant does not that the council can say the tenant has made themselves intentionally homeless . And will not have a duty to help the family . This could then lead to social services becoming involved as they have a duty of care to the child.

The system is shit it's not fair in the tenant or the landlord. But the op can't risk becoming street homeless with a child.

You were given notice in June so why has it taken 6 months to find another property you could move into? Im
not sure I can agree that it’s the landlords fault Christmas is ruined, if you’d found a new property months ago you’d have been settled somewhere new by now and wouldn’t be facing so much turmoil over Christmas.

This. Ignore everyone who clearly don't know about LL and tenant law

Well no, that's not technically correct.

Just because there is a legal recourse for someone who refuses to comply with a section 21 notice, it doesn't make it their 'right'.

The same as I could ignore an invoice from a supplier, who could then go to court and obtain an order for bailiffs to visit me.. it doesn't make it my right to not pay them.

In OPs case, all the homelessness stuff doesn't apply because she's found somewhere else, so she's cost someone time, money and stress for her own benefit. That's why she's getting a hard time.

Do whatever you must do, but go on a council block . All your home issues will be solved until you are on the planet.

It still amazes me that every now and then a post crops up on the property board with someone thinking they are going to invest in a BTL.

I mean just why ?

Nobody commented on the law around evictions, they commented that OP should have moved out in a more timely manner.
She had from June to do so, plenty of time and less stressful than having a bad christmas over it.
Also, the LL has every right to ask of an Auctioneer can come, OP can of course refuse but theres no need for her to get worked up about it

I do know about tenants rights @I4gotmyname.

There has been no explanation from OP as to why it wasn't possible for her to find another rental property within the two month time frame. No explanation as to why it went to court - you are assuming that a social housing tenancy is her only option when obviously she lived in a property belonging to a private landlord previously. OP refers to "stating her side of the story" - what side of the story is that and did she not think it might be pertinent to this thread?

I don't even know why I'm replying ... she can not move into the place until end of January she can not go to the new property and turf the tenant out so she can move in.

It is op right to stay after section 21 that is the law. Weather you think that's right or wrong is not on the op. Op had to follow the system even if its a shit one.

Be angry at the system not op. She can not risk being intentionally homeless with a child.

Op has already said she had a property kited uo for the end of January.. she can't go sooner because its not avaliable. Until the end of January

Reminds me of the old joke: "this restaurant's food is really bad - and such small portions!"

Just pointing out that only a tenant or a court can end a tenancy. The judge allowed the OP extra time to find somewhere else so can we stop with the judgemental comments please.

OP, you are entitled to quiet enjoyment and requests for entry should give you 24 hours notice. Property Qs on here always attract the same sort of responses, so I suggest you get over to MoneySavingExpert's House Buying, Selling and Renting forum where there are lots of kind and knowledgeable people, many of whom are LLs. Good luck.

You need to re-read the January part.

A section 21 is an invitation to move out. The only ones who can end a tenancy are the tenant and a court. A court has allowed OP longer to find somewhere, so she is well within her rights to stay.

it's very easy to say just move out, but it's not always as easy as that in a two month time frame.. Costs involved are huge and new rentals really expensive, so often people have to wait until a bailiff turns up so that they can be evicted as this is what councils tell them to. If they don't follow the correct procedures councils deem them voluntary homeless and will not help.

Did the court know about the state of repair of the place? I would have thought that would be enough to make the section 21 notice invalid because the landlord has not fulfilling his side of the contract. I'm particularly thinking of the long periods with no water and electricity, inadequate heating in your DC's room and lack of smoke alarm.

Do you mean the bot where it says . The tenant is moving out of the new property at the start of January and the op is saying she will move out of her current rental at the end of January? If that's the case there may be a reason for that. The new landlord may have some repairs to do. Or something like that . We can't really know . And op has not been back since this morning so we may never know.

Lots of landlords here aren't there?