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I am a brain in a jar: AMA

59 replies

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 18/12/2024 13:17

Now that I have your attention (hopefully), I have an AIBU. I come from the future, and, having lived as an Earth woman for many years in the 20th and 21st centuries, I then became a disembodied brain in a jar for the last one thousand years. Soon, medics will have perfected the technology to transplant me into a body, although I don't know yet whether it will be human, and, if so, whether it will be male or female.

My question is, am I a woman, or just a brain with some memories of being one? How is it possible to be female without a female body?

IABU - I will always be a woman, no matter what.

IANBU - I am a brain in a jar. If they give me a male human body, I will be a man.

OP posts:
Dabralor · 18/12/2024 13:23

I don't know. I guess it depends on what chromosomes you have at a cellular level.

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 18/12/2024 13:27

Fair point. I have XX and my brain has been steeped in œstrogen. Damn!

Would it help if my mind had been electronically captured, rather than preserved by preserving the brain?

OP posts:
OrchardBlack · 18/12/2024 13:28

I'm too tired for this 😂

FearOfTheDucks · 18/12/2024 13:29

You'd be a man. You'd be in the peculiar situation of being a man who genuinely used to be a woman, but once in that new body, you'd be a man.

If your brain was somehow put in a bear's body, you'd be a bear who used to be a woman.

It reminds me of the old gotcha from TRAs - but what if your brain was magically put in the wrong body? Sure, maybe I'd be confused and unhappy about it, but if it's a male body, I'm not taking it into female spaces no matter how I feel inside.

Happyinarcon · 18/12/2024 13:31

Did they still expect the brain to remember peoples birthdays and where to find the wrapping paper? And was the brain asking everyone to remember to check the cat litter tray?

GeneralPeter · 18/12/2024 13:37

If biological:

There's no way to say: our concepts don't extend that far. Your sex is written in every cell, so I'd be tempted to say you'd be both. There is a blurred line though, as grafting a single female cell into a man wouldn't make him 'both' in my view.

If digital:

Male. We define sex by reference to biology and all your biology would be male. You'd probably be a highly atypical male, psychologically speaking, but be a male nonetheless.

AnneUulmelmahay · 18/12/2024 13:37

Hmmmmm.

<points at username>

LeaderBee · 18/12/2024 13:41

Sounds like a DAX from DS9 Situation.

popeydokey · 18/12/2024 13:42

Were you conscious for the last 1000 years? If so you've reached a state/experience that no human ever has...

I think you are whatever your body is but your characteristics, behaviours etc will have been shaped by the experience of having an XX body and being treated by society's expectations of that kind of body.

It would be more interesting to compare the exact same natal brain living (from birth) in the opposite sex body to see the effects of entrenched societal sexism (and testosterone-fuelled puberty, muscle mass etc).

Henrythehappypig · 18/12/2024 13:43

Have you ever been in a rowing boat?

EatTheBastard · 18/12/2024 13:43

Is your name Anne Uumellmahaye?

LittleRedRidingHoody · 18/12/2024 13:44

No idea on the gender thing, but if you're from the future and really will answer me anything, I'd like some winning lottery numbers please 😂

popeydokey · 18/12/2024 13:44

AnneUulmelmahay · 18/12/2024 13:37

Hmmmmm.

<points at username>

Scum queen!Grin

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 18/12/2024 13:46

popeydokey · 18/12/2024 13:42

Were you conscious for the last 1000 years? If so you've reached a state/experience that no human ever has...

I think you are whatever your body is but your characteristics, behaviours etc will have been shaped by the experience of having an XX body and being treated by society's expectations of that kind of body.

It would be more interesting to compare the exact same natal brain living (from birth) in the opposite sex body to see the effects of entrenched societal sexism (and testosterone-fuelled puberty, muscle mass etc).

Yes, I've been calculating pi to trillions of places. Your research proposal sounds like the most unethical identical twin study ever. I love it!

OP posts:
grumpygrape · 18/12/2024 13:48

Would you fit a female human skull or are you more human male dick shaped ?

DecayingRelic · 18/12/2024 13:48

Are you a Goa'uld? 😆

JaneJeffer · 18/12/2024 13:48

Now where did I put my fanny? I had it here a century ago 🤔

nonbinaryfinery · 18/12/2024 13:49
Fed Up Stare GIF

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VacuumPacked · 18/12/2024 13:50

what can you see ? and will David Beckham ever be knighted ?

earlyr1ser · 18/12/2024 13:52

If you end up in an intact body that has been through male puberty, then you'll have strength advantages and a risk profile that means you don't belong in women's spaces, regardless of what's inside your skull.

If you reappear as a small boy however, you're no danger at all - boys and their mothers go to the loo together, get changed together, sometimes (sadly) seek refuge from violence together. Has anyone, even the most hardline GC person, ever had a problem with this?

The gender question behind your post is played as a male/female issue, but if you think about it, actually it is not. Likewise: the "debate" about male/female brains offers no answers. A look at the effects of testosterone, on the other hand, does.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 18/12/2024 13:52

You'd be one of a kind. A man with the memories of a woman.

Eyesopenwideawake · 18/12/2024 13:54

Where’s Dr Hfuhruhurr when you need him?

UpUpUpU · 18/12/2024 13:55

@PoliticalPossum, is that you? 😂😂😂

CoffersFord · 18/12/2024 13:55

If you have a male body - testes instead of ovaries etc - then you will be a man. Unless in the thousand years you've been waiting, new terms have been introduced to describe people in your situation.

Errors · 18/12/2024 13:58

Wait, what?

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