To be pleased Disney have pulled a Trans character story line, from children's show ‘Win or Lose’ on Disney+

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It feels recently the few stories over the past few months are turning into a significant number, as organisations, some very large ones, row back a 'progressive authoritarian' agenda.

I do wonder what the story line was? Presumably as it's around sports, I can't find any more detail. The actor was a trans identified male.

My fundamental objection to the storyline, is that normalising these occurrences (and I am aware it happens) in a show aimed only at children, is overall negative to healthy optimal outcomes for children as a whole.

I wholly support trans identified children being given the right holistic help so they can live their best lives. I do not believe that Disney or others should omit positive healthy LGB relationships.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/disney-pulls-transgender-storyline-win-or-lose-1236088172/

"Pixar’s original animated series Win or Lose will no longer include a transgender storyline in a later episode"

Trans character storylines are sometimes worth watching though. Like the "Strong Woman" in South Park

Absolutely :) But SP is definitely not the same audience ! 🕶

Yes I'm pleased too - the unsubtle indoctrination (looking at you BBC) is part of the problem here - it's an explicitly activist take on a sensitive and nuanced issue.

So, well done Disney.

I'm disappearing down a SP rabbit hole now.

"Mr Garrison's Fancy New Vagina" is also a good one.

It’s probably a bloke ranked 453 in the men’s category who decided he’s now a woman and becomes world number one and everyone supposed up cheer him on for being ‘stunning and brave’ as he breaks women’s hearts (and legs)

Because that’s pretty much what’s happening in sport right now

It’s good news because it’s about a sports team, and teams are segregated by sex (not gender) for a reason.

The last thing we need is yet more normalising of natal boys in women and girls’ sport.

Yes, but sometimes, the an still gets owned

https://www.instagram.com/p/DDpq5DgP6V0/

Worth a watch for a giggle

They've clearly seen the writing on the wall following Trump's victory

I have noticed that even in Pro TWAW circles, that they discount sport as cheating.

I really think that's it - but in many ways his victory was the proof that this progressive authoritarianism really had over reached, and therefore was about to do a massive rebound

Sadly not all of them! Some still think it's ok.... Maybe it was the wedge that would always keep the door slightly ajar, and now that lever has been used to get the door wide open again?

#NoNoDebate

Is it getting better in schools? I don't have children in school now. Several years ago my lad who is gentle autistic and hates sports was approached by the LGBT+ club and asked if he wanted to join. They decided he looked or was what they thought fitted in the category. He didn't join them. He joined the chess club though. He was vulnerable to the push to assume.

Disney itself is an issue imho.

It was bound to get them into hot water so it makes sense that they pulled it. Their reasoning for the decision, that they published, seemed fair enough.

It's the subtle message of you can change sex though, to children. I'm sure the others things, animals talking etc they realise are not possible. No need to run screaming from the room when seeing a child that is just a child. It's the adult push to assume and affirm that's been shown to be damaging.

What's a 'trans child' anyway. Surely a child is a child and stereotyping is unhelpful or possibly damaging.

It could also be the message that girls places in sports team should be given over to boys in certain circumstances.

Thought I don't know enough about the material - that might not have been the storyline.

It could be. Or the message (which Disney have had for years) that to hexa girl is loving pink, being soft, girly, etc and if you don't feel that way then..

Well quite. It's appalling to realise how the messaging to young girls has actually deteriorated over the last 20 years or so.

Remember that beautiful Lego ad from the 1970s with the little girl in the jeans and t-shirt?

I cannot understand why the liberal cause has moved away from this. It seems so obvious to me that the healthiest message we can send is that there is no right or wrong way to be male/female and we should embrace all kinds of gender expressions within each sex.

I agree. I think we have gone backwards in accepting people with differences in that years ago you could be a girl or boy on a spectrum. Now it you don't find narrow outdated stereotyping of girl boy then you 'might be in the wrong body'. No one is in the wrong body, we are all different and should be encouraged to embrace that rather than hate yourself so much that you might wish to stop puberty or bind your chest or have surgery. Not of that changes biological reality of course. I believe it increases anxiety and leads to sense of failure since you cannot actually change sex in reality. Sad. The increases in young people who wish to detransition can be seen too. Poor young people. They deserve better.

Watch - The Cissy on South Park

You're being unreasonable in that there's no such thing as a trans child. There are young people who are experiencing gender distress for numerous reasons but a qualified medical professional can't diagnose a child as transgender.

Disney went woke and should have been boycotted a long time ago. Indoctrinating children is not ok.

You'd be called transphobic for that comment alone. I'd say you weren't personally just stating facts but there are many who'd like to shut down any comments like that.

You're right that people would shut that down as transphobic. Those are the very same people who don't believe young people should get the professional help they need to pick apart the reasons for experiencing gender distress, of which there are many (internalised homophobia, autism, sexual trauma etc) so they get the appropriate medical care for their specific condition. They would much rather go down the positive affirmation route whereby vulnerable people get referred for surgery for a condition they don't have, lopping off body parts only to realise a few years later, they're not transgender, it was actually something that could have been worked through with a therapist. But by then it's too late and their lives have been ruined by unnecessary surgeries rendering them sterile with no sexual function.
The vast majority of young people desist from feelings of being transgender having gone through puberty and realise they're gay or lesbian. It's a homophobic and misogynistic movement.