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To not feel bad about inadvertently causing a family row

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ARichtGoodDram · 17/12/2024 00:14

The background is that my parents were neglectful and abusive. Both were alcoholic drug addicts and were a nightmare together.

Some of my earliest memories are of being asked to pick my favourite Christmas present and my father chucking it on the fire, my brother regularly being burned by an iron as a punishment and the constant hunger (which often was matched with watching my father eat).

I was the youngest of four siblings, and I was the youngest by 9 years. They were all close in age and I was the late mistake. The addictions started when I was about 2ish and when I was 7 our grandparents took us after I included my brother being burned by the iron in my ‘what I did at the weekend’ in school. It was so common place I didn’t realise it wasn’t normal.

When I was 12 my Grandad died. My Nana realised that none of my siblings nor my aunt would take me in if she also died. So she sold a lot, cashed in all policies she had, raided her savings and used the payout from my Grandad’s work to pay my Aunt, my uncle and my siblings their share of her and grandads estate so that I could be left the flat we moved to (a 2 bed flat in a rough area). This was agreed, in fact encouraged, by everyone and they pretty much all used the money for house deposits or, in my aunts case, paying off a chunk of mortgage.

When my nana died and everything was sold and balanced it worked out that I got was worth about £300 more than my siblings and £1200 more than my Aunt and Uncle. My uncle basically said that their houses had increased in value way more than that so to forget it. I paid my aunt and one of my siblings the difference as they insisted on it.
The whole thing caused such bad feeling I’m only in contact with my uncle.

At a family funeral on Friday my cousin, my aunt’s son, made several digs about me being Nana’s favourite as I was the only one left anything in the will. After the third dig I pointed out to him that my siblings and I split my father’s share (he was completely disowned by them) and the only reason cousin didn’t get anything is because my Aunt is alive.

He was super confused and asked what I meant. I explained what had happened and it turned out that all these years my three cousins were totally unaware that their Mum got her share, just several years before Nana died. Also that it was absolutely evened up when she did die.

Its caused WWIII in that branch because my cousins have had ill feeling toward Nana (and me) all this time and it was totally unnecessary. They are now furious at their mother.

A few relatives have suggested I owe my aunt an apology for causing the row, but I didn’t bloody cause it! Her lies did.

Hopefully it’ll be many years before the next funeral so I don’t have to see any of these people thankfully, but I don’t feel remotely bad and don’t see why I should?

OP posts:
ARichtGoodDram · 17/12/2024 09:24

sparkletin · 17/12/2024 05:39

Asked you to pick a favourite present to throw on the fire and starved you? And your family sat back and allowed that to happen.
You don't need these people OP. Who cares what kind of trouble they think you're causing, they're all complicit in your abuse. I've cut family members off for less. Know your worth, leave them behind.

To be fair family tried to intervene. My mother’s parents contacted social services numerous times, as did schools, but my father was very charming when he wanted to be. He even had a fling with one of the social workers! My parents went NC with them and many others.

Only my father’s parents, my Nana and Grandad, were able to stay close to us so that we had breaks from the home with them. They also kept meticulous notes of any stories they heard and photos of marks they spotted. Then when my school contacted them, in sheer desperation, they basically came on an afternoon, scooped us up and dared my father to call the police and demand us back. He couldn’t at that point as we all had bruises/marks.

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healthybychristmas · 17/12/2024 09:39

Your childhood was horrific and I am shocked that the police weren't called. I think quite a few teachers will find disturbing things written in those diaries. I'm so glad your husband's family is lovely.

ARichtGoodDram · 17/12/2024 09:50

healthybychristmas · 17/12/2024 09:39

Your childhood was horrific and I am shocked that the police weren't called. I think quite a few teachers will find disturbing things written in those diaries. I'm so glad your husband's family is lovely.

They were. Several times. My father was sent on a course. I remember him being fined on one occasion (because he went on and on about that). But he was very charming and made lots of promises of changing. On several occasions I remember either him or my mum hiding and the other being adamant that they weren’t living there, depending on which one was meant to have left after the most recent incident.

I was quite lucky with teachers as my first couple were amazing.

My first Christmas at school my teacher (who knew my siblings) had realised that the school holidays were an issue food wise because she gave me breakfast every day. On the day of the Christmas Fayre she set the class a challenge and one person was going to win a ticket for the tombola/raffle table. I won the ticket. I was so excited because I didn’t have any money for the Fayre. My ticket won the prize of a backpack the exact same as my school bag and inside it there were wee boxes of cereal, little things of the long life milk that we got, crisps, crackers and other foods. I was able to leave my school bag and sneak that bag in. My siblings and I took things from it over the holidays while my parents were at the pub.
When I was about 15 I was thinking about it one Christmas and realised it wasn’t luck at all that I’d won that ticket.
I actually attended a retirement thing for her several years ago after I posted on here and people encouraged me to do it. She’s a lovely lady.

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coronafiona · 17/12/2024 09:58

Just wanted to a massive well done for not only surviving but also breaking the cycle of abuse. I'm so sorry you and your siblings went through that and I'm delighted you have found your DH family. It takes huge strength to do that xx

lionloaf · 17/12/2024 10:09

You told the truth, OP, so stand firm! Your aunt has made her bed and she can lie in it.

That story about your brother is so so upsetting. Do you keep in contact with your siblings?

Well done to your teacher for that clever prize! I’m glad you have found/made a family of your own.

zingally · 17/12/2024 10:19

Apart from your uncle, they all sound like a bunch of ejits.

Perhaps you might like to reach out to your cousins in 6-12 months, when they've had time to digest the truth, and see if there's any relationship to be had there.
But honestly, considering all the early shit you went through, I'd be tempted to just shrug the lot of them off.

LadyQuackBeth · 17/12/2024 10:37

I'm so glad you have had kindness from your Nana and teachers to give you some faith in the world, no child should have the start you did and you have done brilliantly to have so many strong family relationships with your ILs without having had any modelled to you when you were younger.

The fact that your Nana had to pull out all the stops to keep you housed after she died, because she knew your aunt and uncle were too shitty to take you in, is enough to detach from them entirely. If you want to stay in touch with the cousin, who sounds as if they had a pretty crap time with shitty parents as well, that's up to you, but it should be on your terms.

I think that the fact you showed your cousin that your Nana was caring, kind and fair and treated everyone equally is actually a great gift for them - all you are witnessing is the rose tinted glasses falling off around their own parents and the realisation that they weren't that great or honest.

If the cousin reaches out in a nice way, I'd have a relationship with them away from the aunt and uncle, but otherwise I'd try to give them all as little headspace as possible.

thepariscrimefiles · 17/12/2024 10:48

RedHelenB · 17/12/2024 05:09

Your siblings got the brunt of your parents nastiness by the sounds of it your poor brother.

Are you trying to imply that OP did not suffer from her parents' abusive and neglectful behaviour? OP has said:

'Some of my earliest memories are of being asked to pick my favourite Christmas present and my father chucking it on the fire, my brother regularly being burned by an iron as a punishment and the constant hunger (which often was matched with watching my father eat).'

Being starved while being made to watch her father eat and having her Christmas presents thrown on the fire doesn't meet your threashold of abuse? Why on earth would your minimise and deny OP's experiences just to be a dick?

thepariscrimefiles · 17/12/2024 10:52

ARichtGoodDram · 17/12/2024 09:50

They were. Several times. My father was sent on a course. I remember him being fined on one occasion (because he went on and on about that). But he was very charming and made lots of promises of changing. On several occasions I remember either him or my mum hiding and the other being adamant that they weren’t living there, depending on which one was meant to have left after the most recent incident.

I was quite lucky with teachers as my first couple were amazing.

My first Christmas at school my teacher (who knew my siblings) had realised that the school holidays were an issue food wise because she gave me breakfast every day. On the day of the Christmas Fayre she set the class a challenge and one person was going to win a ticket for the tombola/raffle table. I won the ticket. I was so excited because I didn’t have any money for the Fayre. My ticket won the prize of a backpack the exact same as my school bag and inside it there were wee boxes of cereal, little things of the long life milk that we got, crisps, crackers and other foods. I was able to leave my school bag and sneak that bag in. My siblings and I took things from it over the holidays while my parents were at the pub.
When I was about 15 I was thinking about it one Christmas and realised it wasn’t luck at all that I’d won that ticket.
I actually attended a retirement thing for her several years ago after I posted on here and people encouraged me to do it. She’s a lovely lady.

OMG what a lovely caring person your teacher was. To think up such a clever plan so that she could help you and your siblings without it coming to your parents' attention is amazing.

ARichtGoodDram · 17/12/2024 10:54

Do you keep in contact with your siblings?

Sadly not. My eldest brother is very like my father. After Nana died, and then another time, there was huge unpleasantness and siblings were told him or me. They chose him.

I have contact with my Uncle, his wife and their family. He was a single guy in the military when grandad died, but married a year or two later. His wife is lovely and very family oriented. Even though they’ve always lived far away we’ve always been welcome there and they’re at the end of the phone if needed.

OP posts:
niadainud · 17/12/2024 11:01

ARichtGoodDram · 17/12/2024 00:55

Not remotely. My DH has an amazing family (and a bloody mahoosive family!) who have become my family over the years as well as friends who’ve become family.

I'm really glad your life has turned out like that after what sounds like a very difficult childhood.

You did nothing wrong.

Nikitaspearlearring · 17/12/2024 11:09

Bloody hell OP. I am so sorry for that little girl who had to endure all that and feel so unloved by her parents. Well done for being the person you are now. You have told the truth, and have nothing to feel bad about. I would let them all get on with it. Best wishes xx

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 17/12/2024 11:15

ARichtGoodDram · 17/12/2024 09:50

They were. Several times. My father was sent on a course. I remember him being fined on one occasion (because he went on and on about that). But he was very charming and made lots of promises of changing. On several occasions I remember either him or my mum hiding and the other being adamant that they weren’t living there, depending on which one was meant to have left after the most recent incident.

I was quite lucky with teachers as my first couple were amazing.

My first Christmas at school my teacher (who knew my siblings) had realised that the school holidays were an issue food wise because she gave me breakfast every day. On the day of the Christmas Fayre she set the class a challenge and one person was going to win a ticket for the tombola/raffle table. I won the ticket. I was so excited because I didn’t have any money for the Fayre. My ticket won the prize of a backpack the exact same as my school bag and inside it there were wee boxes of cereal, little things of the long life milk that we got, crisps, crackers and other foods. I was able to leave my school bag and sneak that bag in. My siblings and I took things from it over the holidays while my parents were at the pub.
When I was about 15 I was thinking about it one Christmas and realised it wasn’t luck at all that I’d won that ticket.
I actually attended a retirement thing for her several years ago after I posted on here and people encouraged me to do it. She’s a lovely lady.

That made me cry. What a wonderful teacher. I'm sorry that you had such a shot childhood but glad that there were people who tried to help.

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