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Pathetic Fallacy - is this a "thing"

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marmia1234 · 15/12/2024 07:50

My sons English report came home ( disclaimers: not in UK and I have a degree in English Literature)
In one section of the test they had to match a quote to its corresponding technique. For example - simile, imagery, metaphor, personification etc. One of those techniques was "pathetic fallacy" . I am flummoxed. Is this a normal thing I just missed somehow? Once he had a stab at which one was the "pathetic fallacy he was stuffed and only got 4 right out of 7 as was a bit discombobulated. Is this a common term in the UK or US
I have googled and it appears to be a version of personification.
Why is it pathetic?
Trying to add poll but seem to be unable.
YABU - everybody knows the term "Pathetic fallacy"
YANBU - WTF nobody has heard of that

OP posts:
OPsSockpuppet · 15/12/2024 07:52

It’s a fairly mainstream literary term… (I’m an English teacher).

fiftiesmum · 15/12/2024 07:52

Never heard of it (perhaps only used in academic circles)

Loungingbutnotforlong · 15/12/2024 07:52

Pathetic fallacy is when the weather matches the characters mood and situation e.g. the character is going through a tumultuous time and things are bleak for them-the weather might be dark sky/ stormy/ heavy rain.

MaMoosie · 15/12/2024 07:53

I learnt this in GCSE English 16 years ago so definitely a thing

AtomicBlondeRose · 15/12/2024 07:53

It’s widely used - something definitely mentioned quite frequently at secondary level (used to teach English). It’s easy to spot and students like recognising it!

RhaenysRocks · 15/12/2024 07:53

Yes. It's to do with using weather to match the mood of a story or enhance the emotions ..so stormy weather for high tension, sunny calm skies for all is well.

DownWhichOfLate · 15/12/2024 07:53

I remember doing about this for GCSE English Literature in the 90s

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 15/12/2024 07:54

I'm flummoxed as to how you have an English degree without encountering this! Have you never studied King Lear?!

legallyblond · 15/12/2024 07:54

It’s secondary school level english - probably GCSE. This is a very normal literary term!

RhaenysRocks · 15/12/2024 07:54

It's one of those things that you don't really notice as a reader but is a gift for English teachers / students because it's pretty easy to spot, remember and mention in essays / exams.

Seafleur · 15/12/2024 07:55

I remember the term from school days but had to google to remind me of the definition!

SherlocksDeerstalker · 15/12/2024 07:56

Yep, I have high school aged kids and it’s something I know about from homework and lit study with them. Probably also from my own school days somewhere in the deep crevices of my mind palace!

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 15/12/2024 07:56

I definitely learnt about it in A-level English.

Fizbosshoes · 15/12/2024 07:56

Teen DD told me about it a few years ago when she was doing GCSEs, I'd never heard of it before

AlbertCamusflage · 15/12/2024 07:57

It isn't called the 'pathetic fallacy' because it is patheticGrin. I imagine it is because it concerns the evocation of pathos by means of the strategy of projection (onto the inanimate object).

As to why it is called a fallacy, I just googled that and it is apparently because John Ruskin didn't like it as a literary device and therefore gave it a hostile term.

GabriellaMontez · 15/12/2024 07:58

My teens taught me this several years ago. We use it all the time.

biffyboom · 15/12/2024 07:58

It's used early on from Y7 in school now, but it wasn't a term I'd heard of when I was a school student (long time ago).

Changingname1988 · 15/12/2024 07:58

I have no memory of that term at all, I clicked on this thread because I wondered what it was!

I got an A at GCSE Eng Lit and A Level (many moons ago), so either we weren’t taught it, I missed that lesson or I have completely wiped it from my brain.

DrinkReprehensibly · 15/12/2024 07:58

Well it doesn't ring any bells for me either Op but I dropped English after GCSE so I've probably forgotten it if I ever knew it!

JaneGrint · 15/12/2024 07:58

I’ve heard of it, but only because I read a graphic novel once where one of the main characters was a personification of the Pathetic Fallacy, and I looked up the term because I was getting a bit confused about what was happening around the character.

I don’t remember learning about the term at school, but I didn’t take English past GCSE and that’s a long time ago now!

Garlicwest · 15/12/2024 07:59

I knew of the technique (King Lear) but am sure this is the first time I've heard the name! It's not a fallacy, it's it? And why pathetic?
Confused

PortiasBiscuit · 15/12/2024 07:59

I am driving to a family party today, the weather here is cold with a bit of an icy wind.. so am I living a pathetic fallacy?

B1anche · 15/12/2024 08:00

I remember it from GCSE English 32 years ago!

BellissimoGecko · 15/12/2024 08:00

Taught in English from about Year 5.

TeenToTwenties · 15/12/2024 08:00

As others have said, it is definitely a 'thing' for GCSE English!