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Teacher telling 7yo that Father Christmas not real

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Peaceandquietandacuppa · 11/12/2024 22:33

Is it reasonable for a RE teacher to tell 7 year olds that Father Christmas isn’t real?

My 7 year old DS has just told me that his RE teacher told the class Father Christmas “isn’t real” today. He isn’t one to over-exaggerate. I asked if any of the kids prompted it by asking and he said no, she just said it.

If you think it’s unreasonable, would you say anything to the school?

YABU - teachers are fine to say FC is not real at the age of 7

YANBU - let the kids / parents decide if FC is real. Just don’t say anything!

OP posts:
OldChinaJug · 12/12/2024 07:53

Threelittleduck · 12/12/2024 07:38

Well an RE teacher should believe in St Nicholas right? So Father Christmas.
I would talk to the teacher before complaining. The comment must have come from somewhere. I can't believe that just before Christmas she decided to tell the kids he's not real.
My DDs believed until they were 8 or 9, they'd have been upset to be told that at 7.

Not all RE teachers are Christians...

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Shwish · 12/12/2024 07:54

PoupeeGonflable · 12/12/2024 07:32

Ok, you seem determined to denigrate anyone who disagrees with OP because you have deemed them 'argumentative ', rather than having an alternative opinion. If that makes you happy, then I feel sad for you.
But the point stands. 7 is too old to believe in santa, so if the teacher mentioned he didn't exist, i doubt she did it to disillusion anyone, just assumed that children would be in the know

Why do you think you get to decide that 7 is to old to believe in Santa? Almost all the kids I know still do at that age. In fact I'm pretty sure one of my twins still believes at age 10 (although I'm almost certain the other one just plays along to get the presents)
I'll tell them the truth before secondary school if they haven't figured it out because I don't want them to get made fun of.
But I'd be very upset if a teacher just took it upon themselves to tell them. Particularly a teacher who's entire job is about religion and who'se probably fairly used to being asked that question about god or jesus or whatever. You'd think THAT teacher would have a stock response ready, more than any other one.

Dinosweetpea · 12/12/2024 07:55

Emily198222 · 11/12/2024 22:52

Mine very much believed until about ten.

This. They most definitely believed at 7!

Shwish · 12/12/2024 07:55

Erm what?

WhySoManySocks · 12/12/2024 07:58

The RE teachers are supposed to tell kids “some people believe in X and some in Y”. So if the line was “Santa doesn’t exist but baby Jesus does”, then YANBU to complain. If the line was “some people believe in Santa but not all” then YABU.

Startinganew32 · 12/12/2024 07:58

Lookatthetwinklylights · 11/12/2024 22:34

That’s awful, I would definitely complain

Oh right so he IS real?

Pippinsdiary · 12/12/2024 08:00

PoupeeGonflable · 12/12/2024 07:32

Ok, you seem determined to denigrate anyone who disagrees with OP because you have deemed them 'argumentative ', rather than having an alternative opinion. If that makes you happy, then I feel sad for you.
But the point stands. 7 is too old to believe in santa, so if the teacher mentioned he didn't exist, i doubt she did it to disillusion anyone, just assumed that children would be in the know

Too old. As if

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 12/12/2024 08:02

But the point stands. 7 is too old to believe in santa

Says who? You?

You're wrong btw .....

arcticpandas · 12/12/2024 08:03

When my DS was younger and people (kids mostly) told him father christmas didn't exist I explained to him that the poor kids must have been so bad so that father christmas never came to their house. Worked out fine.

Shwish · 12/12/2024 08:04

Startinganew32 · 12/12/2024 07:58

Oh right so he IS real?

Well an RE teacher would probably get fired for telling kids that god doesn't exist so really should know how to handle this sort of question.

CaptainMyCaptain · 12/12/2024 08:07

arcticpandas · 12/12/2024 08:03

When my DS was younger and people (kids mostly) told him father christmas didn't exist I explained to him that the poor kids must have been so bad so that father christmas never came to their house. Worked out fine.

So children whose parents had no money must have been badly behaved? Nice.

gannett · 12/12/2024 08:09

It's batshit to be so invested in whether your child believes in Santa. It's the natural way of things that they stop believing at some point, and it's very common that this happens around the age of 7 via other children or an adult like this teacher or, you know, their own critical faculties. Nothing has been ruined. This is how it's supposed to work. Throwing a hissy fit about "preserving the magic" is pointless and a bit bonkers.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 12/12/2024 08:10

JeremiahBullfrog · 12/12/2024 07:51

You are all mental. Stop lying to kids.

Stop telling people how to parent their own children

Nolegusta · 12/12/2024 08:11

arcticpandas · 12/12/2024 08:03

When my DS was younger and people (kids mostly) told him father christmas didn't exist I explained to him that the poor kids must have been so bad so that father christmas never came to their house. Worked out fine.

How nasty.
Just be honest and say sone people believe and some don't.
We never lied to our son about Santa, he still loved christmas and also knew to let others believe if they want to.

PositivePorpoisePeople · 12/12/2024 08:11

dizzydizzydizzy · 11/12/2024 22:38

Do 7yo children still believe in Father Christmas? I

Yes! Most in the UK I would say.

PositivePorpoisePeople · 12/12/2024 08:13

WhySoManySocks · 12/12/2024 07:58

The RE teachers are supposed to tell kids “some people believe in X and some in Y”. So if the line was “Santa doesn’t exist but baby Jesus does”, then YANBU to complain. If the line was “some people believe in Santa but not all” then YABU.

The teacher didn’t need to bring Santa into it at all.

Startinganew32 · 12/12/2024 08:13

arcticpandas · 12/12/2024 08:03

When my DS was younger and people (kids mostly) told him father christmas didn't exist I explained to him that the poor kids must have been so bad so that father christmas never came to their house. Worked out fine.

That is really shit and you’re basically saying to him that if you’re too poor to get presents or shock horror of a different religion, then you have been bad. Also if a child is doubting that he’s real and you outright lie and make stuff up then that might make them distrust you. I’m not just saying this - my friends son now knows Santa isn’t real or the tooth fairy but he’s quite angry about it because he trusted his parents to tell the truth and they kept inventing more and more elaborate lies about why it was true. I mean he will get over it but I’d rather a kid was told that it’s make believe than lie and lie and lie and then eventually the truth comes out anyway.

justasking111 · 12/12/2024 08:14

It's a blessing that my children and now my grandchildren are being raised in a rural backwater. We're still allowed to believe in dragons, fairies, father Christmas without amateur psychologists, at the school gates. 😊

Nolegusta · 12/12/2024 08:14

PositivePorpoisePeople · 12/12/2024 08:13

The teacher didn’t need to bring Santa into it at all.

Maybe a child brought it into the conversation?

PositivePorpoisePeople · 12/12/2024 08:14

CaptainMyCaptain · 12/12/2024 08:07

So children whose parents had no money must have been badly behaved? Nice.

I think it was ‘poor’ as in unfortunate that they didn’t have Santa visit and didn’t believe rather than ‘poor’ in a financial sense. But, still pretty harsh!

Nolegusta · 12/12/2024 08:14

justasking111 · 12/12/2024 08:14

It's a blessing that my children and now my grandchildren are being raised in a rural backwater. We're still allowed to believe in dragons, fairies, father Christmas without amateur psychologists, at the school gates. 😊

We live rurally.
We also didn't feel the need to lie about santa.

PositivePorpoisePeople · 12/12/2024 08:15

Nolegusta · 12/12/2024 08:14

Maybe a child brought it into the conversation?

Could still have dodged the question. When my DC asked if Santa was real I asked them what they thought.

Startinganew32 · 12/12/2024 08:17

PositivePorpoisePeople · 12/12/2024 08:11

Yes! Most in the UK I would say.

No it will be less than that but loads of kids go along with it all because it’s a special time of year. Which is great and the whole “some believe in him, some don’t” is fine. But half of those 7 yo will have older siblings who will have no issue telling them that Santa is make believe and the parents buy the presents. So no, most 7 year olds know it’s not real.

PositivePorpoisePeople · 12/12/2024 08:17

gannett · 12/12/2024 08:09

It's batshit to be so invested in whether your child believes in Santa. It's the natural way of things that they stop believing at some point, and it's very common that this happens around the age of 7 via other children or an adult like this teacher or, you know, their own critical faculties. Nothing has been ruined. This is how it's supposed to work. Throwing a hissy fit about "preserving the magic" is pointless and a bit bonkers.

I think most 7 year olds still believe to be honest. I’d say 9/ 10 is the average age to find out.

Nolegusta · 12/12/2024 08:17

PositivePorpoisePeople · 12/12/2024 08:15

Could still have dodged the question. When my DC asked if Santa was real I asked them what they thought.

We don't know what teacher actually said though. The thing is that it's also a lie to teach that he's real. I would just have said 'some people definitely believe he's real'.