Child receiving death threats for dropping Koran

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-64835023.amp
Following on from the previous thread on the teacher from Batley, I read this.

A child getting death threats for dropping a book in school. Should never happen, or AIBU?

So what's happened since this came to light 18 months ago? Was the child harmed/threatened again?

Have you been looking for news stories about Muslims?

It happened 18 months ago. Why bring attention to it again?

@randomchap so do you think children being threatened to death should be swept under the carpet and not spoken about?

Is that why you're on Mumsnet as a man, to police what people here talk about?

No, I'm on here as it reminds me of my late wife and occasionally I feel that I can contribute. Are you here to police who can and cannot contribute?

The news story is 18 months old. I was just wondering why someone would want to discuss old news and how they found the article.

Has there been anything else happening to the child since? Any more detail on what happened?

I presume OP is asking in order to find out what happened. Was any penalty imposed on the people making death threats? Is the child still under threat? These things shouldn’t be allowed to pass unchallenged.

I wouldn't presume that at all as she hasn't actually asked any of those questions. She starts by referring to a thread where Islam is portrayed negatively and then posts about another incident where Islam is portrayed negatively. She then posts a poll asking if a child getting death threats is reasonable.

That doesn't sound like someone trying to find out what happened next.

They didn't drop it did they, they defaced it on purpose and brought it in as a dare?

Are you just trying to stir up an anti Muslim sentiment?

I presume OP is asking in order to find out what happened. Was any penalty imposed on the people making death threats?

That's a big presumption. It quite clearly says that "West Yorkshire Police said officers had spoken to a child alleged to have made threats and given "words of advice"."

I'm interested to know where the OP got the idea the book was "dropped" because that's not what was said in the article. The book had a torn cover and some pages with dirty marks, after being brought in as a dare. The police recorded the damage as a hate incident. And the school suspended 4 pupils over it. Where's the "dropping" of the book?

The most batshit part of the story is: “Officers were conducting additional reassurance patrols in the area of the school, police said.”

Wakefield must have very low crime if they can spare officers for this!

Agree it’s odd to start a thread about a news story from over a year ago though 🤔

Who cares whether it was dropped or it was tossed across the room into a bin? Police recording it as a hate "crime" are an utter disgrace and will only encourage the idea that this is an "incident" that needs to be addressed which only goes to validate the idiots who issue abuse and death threats. Literal fucking death threats snd harassment are the crimes that the police need to address here.

And I'm 100% with the posters who want to bring it up months afterwards and with the posters who want to keep discussing the Batley teacher. Good. Let's not allow this to be normalised or tossed in the memory hole till the next issue arises. Especially considering the teacher is still in hiding so it's ongoing now, how absolutely INSANE in our country. Never drop this, it's unacceptable. We shouldn't have to fucking worry about this shit and our children absolutely shouldn't have to.

No, I haven’t been looking for random stories about Muslims. Why would you ask that?

I came across it yesterday after reading the news article on the teacher from Batley and I’m keen to know the opinions of the 7% who thought the death threats on the teacher were not unreasonable. Do they think the death threats in this case are unreasonable too??

Keen to see where people support this type of stuff draw the line.

*not unreasonable

KenAdams · Today 08:57

"They didn't drop it did they, they defaced it on purpose and brought it in as a dare?
Are you just trying to stir up an anti Muslim sentiment?"

Seems that way.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/police-hate-incident-autistic-boy-quran-school/

We can only go by what mainstream new outlets report. Some say dropped. Some say damaged. Dropped and damaged? Not the issue here though. The issue is death threats to a child.

Because I want to know if in general many people on Mumsnet would support death threats to a child.

It seemed shocking to me that people were justifying death threats to a teacher. I want to see if people will make similar justifications here.

Is it somehow wrong to try and gauge public opinion on a very sensitive issue? Are we not adults capable of discussing sensitive issues? Why sweep unsavoury issues under the carpet?

I just found out about this incident after reading about it online and posted it. It's not old news to me.

People are not seeking to portray Islam, whether positively or negatively. People are discussing actual things happening, that are concerning. It would be equally concerning if these things were done by Christians, Hindus, Jews, etc.

FFS Suella Braverman was Home Secretary when this happened!!!!

Talk about dredging up the past for no good purpose.

"Death threats" that seem - if you trouble to read the article - to be one kid slagging off another kid.

This is a massive over-reaction and I've wasted enough time on this non-story already.

Absolutely. It’s a scandal that these cases are so quickly forgotten. It’s a greater scandal that those in authority are too cowardly to speak up and protect victims. Instead they make excuses for the perpetrators. It seems to go: Deaths are not nice so don’t hurt anyone feelings and you won’t have to put up with death threats.

"Are you just trying to stir up an anti Muslim sentiment?"

>reads thread about a child receiving death threats from some Muslims

>first thought is one of suspicion at why people might want to discuss this. Not outrage at child getting death threats. No. That's clearly not the matter of importance here is it? I mean, why would someone want to talk about this, right?

There would be no "anti Muslim" sentiment if, instead of trying to hush people up, these issues were addressed. Throwing accusations instead of standing in solidarity with the victims and the wider community (also reassuring them that this behaviour will not be tolerated if they come across it) is actively creating mistrust because it's clear where priorities lie.
If I remember rightly, the child's mum had to grovel at the local mosque to stop the threats. Completely unacceptable. People are going to have to face the fact that it's not just these threats that are the issue, it's the reaction from the wider community that causes problems and feelings of mistrust.

Just for the record. I don’t care about Islam or whatever it teaches. I have no problem with people who want to chose their religion.

I care about freedom of speech, individual and civil liberties that this country as a whole believed in.

Islam or Muslims enter my discussions only as far as they intersect with the issues I am concerned about, I.e. freedom of speech, civil and individual liberties. I would be the same whatever the religion it was.