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To not let someone cut in front?

50 replies

harmoneygarxe · 09/12/2024 23:52

If it’s fairly obvious someone has used the wrong lane when driving do you still let them cut in front of you?

I watched someone do this tonight, the person trying to cut in front was on green (we were on red) and the driver on green still tried to force their way in despite the amount of cars beeping them.

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Ablondiebutagoody · 10/12/2024 00:50

sweetkitty · 10/12/2024 00:41

It’s the CFs who see that two lanes are going down to one and everyone else has merged in time but they come flying up the empty lane right to the top then indicate to be let in at the last minute!

Oh no, you're one of them. The most efficient way for everyone is for both lanes to merge at the last moment. It's why you often see signs saying "merge in turn".

Sonowimbackfromouterspace · 10/12/2024 00:51

TheBestLackAllConviction · 10/12/2024 00:38

Yes. Getting into the wrong lane is not a moral failing or a demonstration of spectacular incompetence, it's something that can happen to anyone on an unfamiliar road.

Yes, but if the lane you wish to get into is at a standstill due to a red light, and you've got traffic backing up behind you because your lane is on green and you're sitting there waiting to move across, how is it fair for everyone who is in the correct lane?

SuperfluousHen · 10/12/2024 00:52

Yes, let them in, anyone can make a mistake and you would be happy to be let in when you make a mistake.

SuperfluousHen · 10/12/2024 00:55

Sonowimbackfromouterspace · 10/12/2024 00:51

Yes, but if the lane you wish to get into is at a standstill due to a red light, and you've got traffic backing up behind you because your lane is on green and you're sitting there waiting to move across, how is it fair for everyone who is in the correct lane?

Then you drive on in the lane you didn’t want to be in until you get to a point where you can safely turn and come back to take the route you should have taken before.

You don’t hold the whole lane up, that’s just incredibly entitled and disrespectful to everyone behind you.

HeddaGarbled · 10/12/2024 00:55

It’s the CFs who see that two lanes are going down to one and everyone else has merged in time but they come flying up the empty lane right to the top then indicate to be let in at the last minute

They’re doing it correctly. I must admit, I’m a move over early person because I’m worried about getting to the merge point and then not being let in by the road hogs.

Gleeanda · 10/12/2024 00:56

From what you've described it sounds more like a mistake than a pisstake to me.

As a one off I let people into lanes. If there are lots of people trying to force into an established queue though - more often from side roads - I am a bit more bullish because everyone you let in delays every single person behind you in the main queue. If enough people push/are let in, the main queue further back grinds to an absolute halt. So I balance letting people in with trying to make some progress for the people behind me. I've spent over an hour gridlocked in my work carpark because of too many people "politely" letting cars in ahead of them from multiple sideroads.

Sonowimbackfromouterspace · 10/12/2024 00:57

SuperfluousHen · 10/12/2024 00:55

Then you drive on in the lane you didn’t want to be in until you get to a point where you can safely turn and come back to take the route you should have taken before.

You don’t hold the whole lane up, that’s just incredibly entitled and disrespectful to everyone behind you.

Exactly...and this is what happened in the OP.

Whatabouterry · 10/12/2024 00:57

I just give everyone the benefit of the doubt. It causes me way less stress to not let it bother me.

harmoneygarxe · 10/12/2024 01:13

Wingedharpy · 10/12/2024 00:23

It might be "fairly obvious" it's the wrong lane to you, if you're familiar with the road layout etc but it may not be fairly obvious to someone else who's never driven that way before.
Signage can be awful on some roads and road markings are useless if there are cars covering them up for several yards.

I said IF it’s fairly obvious.

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RandomWordsThrownTogether · 10/12/2024 01:21

It depends on how people do it - if it’s at speed and they go right to the top and try to zip in without even looking to see if someone will let them I try and prevent the queue jumping unless it can’t be avoided safetly but if someone starts to indicate and slowly moves alone the lane looking for a gap/friendly face I presume they have accidentally gone into the wrong lane. We all make mistakes!

Round here there are a lot of bully drivers who just try to bulldoze their way to the top of a queue and when two lanes are merging will try to accelerate past the traffic in an unsafe manner (ie where the second lane has almost disappeared already so if the other driver doesn’t slam on their brakes you will crash). There are also some crazy roads that aren’t very well marked in advance so if you aren’t local you can easily make a mistake.

harmoneygarxe · 10/12/2024 01:21

TheBestLackAllConviction · 10/12/2024 00:38

Yes. Getting into the wrong lane is not a moral failing or a demonstration of spectacular incompetence, it's something that can happen to anyone on an unfamiliar road.

No it’s very obvious on this road and signed well. They just didn’t want to wait in the long queue to get through. Tried to forcibly cut in front, the car wouldn’t let them in, and then they sat stationery blocking an entire lane of traffic on green.

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thicklysettled · 10/12/2024 01:24

sweetkitty · 10/12/2024 00:41

It’s the CFs who see that two lanes are going down to one and everyone else has merged in time but they come flying up the empty lane right to the top then indicate to be let in at the last minute!

Those "CFs" are actually merging correctly. It's called the zipper merge and it helps to prevent long tailbacks in one lane.

SnoopySantaPaws · 10/12/2024 01:34

harmoneygarxe · 10/12/2024 01:21

No it’s very obvious on this road and signed well. They just didn’t want to wait in the long queue to get through. Tried to forcibly cut in front, the car wouldn’t let them in, and then they sat stationery blocking an entire lane of traffic on green.

The driver of the car that didn't let them in was an equal twat. They could have prevented the cars turning into reems of paper!

two wrongs don't make a right!!

boysinbars · 10/12/2024 01:37

sweetkitty · 10/12/2024 00:41

It’s the CFs who see that two lanes are going down to one and everyone else has merged in time but they come flying up the empty lane right to the top then indicate to be let in at the last minute!

These are the guys that cause the accidents. Someone who has made a mistake is never this pushy!
I try everything possible not to let this type in… I know other posters are right and life’s too short, but sometimes it bugs me so much I am petty and refuse as I feel it encourages more poor driving behaviour.

OnNaturesCourse · 10/12/2024 01:53

boysinbars · 10/12/2024 01:37

These are the guys that cause the accidents. Someone who has made a mistake is never this pushy!
I try everything possible not to let this type in… I know other posters are right and life’s too short, but sometimes it bugs me so much I am petty and refuse as I feel it encourages more poor driving behaviour.

It's called a filter lane and those using it are actually doing it correctly. Those queuing up for miles, causing tailbacks etc are the problem in this situation.

DecemberNC2024 · 10/12/2024 01:56

boysinbars · 10/12/2024 01:37

These are the guys that cause the accidents. Someone who has made a mistake is never this pushy!
I try everything possible not to let this type in… I know other posters are right and life’s too short, but sometimes it bugs me so much I am petty and refuse as I feel it encourages more poor driving behaviour.

They have done nothing wrong and their driving behaviour is not poor.

MeanderingGently · 10/12/2024 02:36

Does it really matter in the scheme of things?
Yes, there are those who are too impatient to wait and cut in; I'd rather let them get on with it than play silly games with drivers on the road. I can't change their behaviour but I can make sure mine is sensible.
My over-riding aim is to avoid accidents while driving and being angry with others, or trying to block someone who has cut in, is stupid and dangerous.

RafaistheKingofClay · 10/12/2024 03:25

boysinbars · 10/12/2024 01:37

These are the guys that cause the accidents. Someone who has made a mistake is never this pushy!
I try everything possible not to let this type in… I know other posters are right and life’s too short, but sometimes it bugs me so much I am petty and refuse as I feel it encourages more poor driving behaviour.

It’s not their fault you don’t know how to merge correctly.

Ovalframes · 10/12/2024 04:27

If everyone did the zipper merge correctly everyone would have a much better experience. Unfortunately a lot of drivers have no clue what a merging lane is for.

AmazingBouncingFerret · 10/12/2024 04:43

There should be three parts to the driving test. Theory Test, Practical Test, and How to Merge in Turn Test.

Zanatdy · 10/12/2024 04:46

Generally yes as we all get into the wrong lane at times and I always think the people who refuse to let you in are tw*ts. Bit different on a motorway when people drive all the way to the front of the queue and expect to be let in.

Tel12 · 10/12/2024 04:51

Of course. Who hasn't found themselves in the wrong lane? Equally even if they are morons it's not worth causing a crash.

tamade · 10/12/2024 04:54

I always let folk in, but if they don’t thank me I ram them.

Catza · 10/12/2024 08:48

We've all ended up in a wrong lane on an unfamiliar route at some points in our lives. People let me in, I let them in. Nobody needs to stress over 5 seconds lost on their journey.

boysinbars · 10/12/2024 08:48

RafaistheKingofClay · 10/12/2024 03:25

It’s not their fault you don’t know how to merge correctly.

Bored last night were you 😂 I just hope you’re not a driving instructor! the behaviour the pp described is not merging correctly, it’s risky and selfish.

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