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How to handle falling out with in-laws family

21 replies

Alexandra84 · 07/12/2024 20:34

Bear with me…
Just before Covid arrived, our little boy was born with a significant medical condition. As a result, with him just two weeks old, after emergency survey, stay in PICU, discussions about life expectancy and all other awful things you don’t ever expect to go through, we went into lockdown, and we had to shield. It was awful.
Come summer, yes, we were slightly less cautious like most people, but still lived our lives by keeping little one well.
My husbands birthday arrived, and I came home to find two of his relatives in the house, not wearing a mask. I know the memory of wearing masks seems odd now, but at the time, this is what the medical team advised.
I was cross, walked in probably quite aggressively (annoyed at my husband for not addressing this with them), and then went back out the house. I may have said hi, I can’t remember.
The next day, the family member telephoned my husband to say she thought I’d been rude. I took over in the phone call to explain I apologised if she felt like that, asked if she’d ever just been so anxious that all logic left your head etc etc. I explained I was calming trying to explain and had no intention of arguing with her. I had phrases like ‘I’m calmer than I’d like to be’, ‘you’ve never been polite to us’ and ‘I do know what it’s like to have a sick child’ said to me. She has no children.
Roll on three years later, during which my husband has not had a lot of contact with them, but has received texts asking him if he and our kids would like to call by to collect Xmas/bday presents. I am specifically not referenced.
We are now facing a situation where they have bought pantomime tickets for my daughter to go, without mentioning it to us. It’s just expected she will go. No ‘are you okay with that, is she even free to go’. She is now not going to get to see my baby nephew who she adores, who live a 6 hour drive away, and are here for one day, as this is the same day as the pantomime.
I let it go last year, as I don’t want her to miss out. I’ve seen a text stating they have also bought tickets for my son to go next year. No asking if this is okay, will he even enjoy it. This will be a disaster as he runs off all the time, (there are some ADHD traits) and I’m not prepared for him to go into a busy city centre without myself or husband.
So..what do I do? They already clearly hate me, but I’m so hurt that they wouldnt even ask if it’s convenient, and nor if it’s even suitable for my son given his medical condition. This in itself illustrates how little they recognise about his medial needs.
For context, my husband knows he should have addressed this at the time, and says he knows he’s messed up. He suffers with anxiety/depression, largely stemming from the relationship he has with his family, and I can see the panic on his face when we start to talk about it. I don’t want him to feel worried, but I feel completely walked all over, and so disrespected.
I have suggested he speak with his Dad (the relatives I am referring to are on his mums side) and explain he needs some help.
Please help.

OP posts:
yeesh · 07/12/2024 20:37

I would just say no. If you keep letting them arrange things without asking you first then it will keep happening.

coconutpie · 07/12/2024 20:40

I would say no to the pantomime. Your DD already has plans to spend the day with her baby cousin instead. Unless they have specifically arranged with you on outings and you have agreed to it, then you don't have to accommodate these requests at all.

Just say no, that doesn't work for us.

theeyeofdoe · 07/12/2024 20:42

Well you’re not free. So she can’t go.

Stormyweatheroutthere · 07/12/2024 20:44

They obviously can't just make plans and assume you will be OK with them...ah can reply ah sorry dc are busy that day you should have mentioned it before just booking anything..

BeeCucumber · 07/12/2024 20:45

Just say no - she can’t go as you have plans.

Jagoda · 07/12/2024 20:45

No, sorry they aren’t available.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 07/12/2024 20:45

It's a no this time...in future please do check with me first.

JennyTals · 07/12/2024 20:45

Hard no and tbh your dh needs to grow a pair and stick of or you and not allow this shit

Bizarred · 07/12/2024 20:46

Just say you can't make the pantomime. But your poor dh - so stuck in the middle - no wonder he suffers with anxiety.

Maddy70 · 07/12/2024 20:46

They have definitely run this passed your dh and he hasn't told you

TestingTestingWonTooFree · 07/12/2024 20:48

Sorry, we’re busy. You should have consulted us before booking tickets.

Createausername1970 · 07/12/2024 20:52

This is the time you need to stand up and be counted.

Message back and say "thank you for including Girly, but unfortunately I was unaware of this arrangement and Girly isn't free".

If you don't make it clear that they have ask before making arrangements it will continue to happen.

standardduck · 07/12/2024 20:55

You already have plans, so just say she can't go.

cheddercherry · 07/12/2024 20:58

I think it’s madness people you don’t even speak to just turn up and collect your child once a year and take them off for the day? Surely just a text to say they aren’t free is all you need to say.

Guavafish1 · 07/12/2024 20:58

Don’t let your children grow up not knowing one half of their family over an argument during Covid.

I would let them get to know the family without me…. As long as my husband is present. But it seems this year there are plans already made.

Honestlyhonee · 07/12/2024 21:02

When they came to your house, did they know they were supposed to wear masks? Why didn’t your DH ask them to?

Itisjustmyopinion · 07/12/2024 21:02

Your DH needs to be the one messaging back to say sorry we have plans that day

He knows he has messed up about the situation years ago, but he can’t continue to mess up by letting you be the bad one in their eyes

He needs to stand up to them

WhatUSeeIsWhatUGet · 07/12/2024 21:03

You are the mother: you are not only allowed but required to say No when it comes to your children. From what I gather (excuse me if I got it wrong), they are not even your parents-in-law (not that it would made any difference re my point): use this as a chance to practice being more asertive and to strengthen your boundaries.

pimplin · 07/12/2024 21:09

You have plans, so she can't go. Your husband's depression cannot stop him from asserting that no someone cannot just take your children out, alone, without your permission. He needs to involve himself for advocating for his children.

WickedlyCharmed · 07/12/2024 21:16

I’ve seen a text stating…

Has your DH showed you these texts or have you snooped on his phone?

You have a DH problem. He is continually throwing you under the bus to cover for his lack of backbone.

Carry on and make plans for that day. Your DD is not available. As your DH and his family will find out, when they finally get around to mentioning it.

LemonViewer · 08/12/2024 11:09

I have family on my side whose behaviour traits are very controlling and emotionally manipulative. Both my parents are massive narcissists and find it hard to see anyone's perspective but their own. No amount of anxiety or personal preference around my kids is acceptable or empathised with - if they did/would do things differently their way is the best/only way that they can even consider.

You have to set boundaries with this kind of behaviour and not be constantly in fear, or it will destroy you. Your DH needs to have some therapy if he gets anxious about it, CBT can be helpful for this - you can get it on the nhs. It sounds like you're both constantly walking on eggshells around his family, this will only drain you and ultimately make it worse. The more you apologise and make excuses for your own decisions the more they will think it's ok to undermine you. You need to be reasonable, and if you were rude, you apologised as anyone should, but you need to remain calm and in control of the boundaries you have set.

There is an issue with communication between you and DH. He should let you know if family members are visiting, particularly if you were shielding, masks/no masks should be specifically discussed beforehand if a child is living there who is high risk. I think he could reply back to the tickets along the lines of - 'thank you. We will check if DD is free that day and get back to you. But in this case it needs to come from him. You need to address this with his family to move forward long term - 'I'm sorry for my part in any previous tensions, we have already discussed this but need to move forward for the sake of the children. Please kindly include me on any texts about plans regarding our children in future. Thank you.'

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