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To have completely lost it on some kids on the street

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HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 07/12/2024 18:37

TLDR- I almost hit an unrestrained dog and yelled at some kids.

I was driving this morning, going about 20mph (school zone) and I observed three kids (two teenagers and one about 9 yo) walking on the pavement with a loose dog running around near them. I assumed it was theirs. The next moment this dog darted out into the road and I had to emergency brake to avoid hitting it. It was so close to going under the wheel of the car.

If I hadn't been going so slowly, and hadn't already been aware of them on the side of the road, I would 100% have hit it. It was extremely close as it was.

I immediately had a flashback to a couple of years ago, when a loose dog got dragged under my tyre and unfortunately I had to watch it die before alerting the owners, which was a very traumatic experience that left me shaken for days. This, combined with the fact that I had just had to emergency brake (jarring my neck, which was now in spasms) left me in a very emotional state. I was shaking.

I parked up outside the school (due to pick up kids from activity) and hopped out of the car. The kids were coming towards me and now I doubted whether the dog was actually theirs- when I had braked, I had honked my horn and gestured 'what are you doing??' at them, while the dog continued to run across the road towards some pedestrians on the other side. They seemed completely unconcerned and had made no attempt to recall the dog.

I approached them, intending to apologize for honking and gesturing if the dog was not in fact theirs, but wanting to address them if it were, as their nonchalance was infuriating and I wanted to impress upon them how close I came to killing or seriously injuring the dog.

I hurried towards them and called out, 'Is that your dog, or is it just following you?'

'No, it's our dog,' the oldest of them replied casually.

That's when I lost my temper. I shouted.

'Do you realize I almost hit your dog!?'

'Yeah, sorry.'

'Well, it's not acceptable to have your dog running around like this! You need to have him on a lead!'

No response other than muttering and a shrug. I was getting more furious.

'You seem completely unconcerned that I almost turned your dog into a pancake!'

'Well, maybe cause it's not mine or hers, it's his,' he gestures towards the youngest child.

'I don't care! You are responsible for the dog and you need to have it under control! Have you ever seen a dog get hit?! I can tell you it's not a pretty sight!'

I then turned and stormed off.

I wonder if I was unreasonable for shouting at these kids. I just wanted them to understand how dangerous it was, so they would hopefully restrain the dog and avoid it being inevitably hit. But I feel that I was unduly emotional because I flashed back to the other dog I hit. I felt the wheel go over it's body, watched it going through death spasms with it's back half paralyzed and I had to stand by while the owners wailed and cried over the dead dog, then I had to help lug the dog's huge body off the road. Other details about how the dog looked I don't care to recall.

But I'm feeling guilty for absolutely losing it on these kids. I can't even remember the last time I've lost my temper on someone like that, so I feel quite surprised at myself and shaken up.

Was I unreasonable?

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HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 07/12/2024 19:35

@ScorpioRising83

Yes we do. That's a good idea.

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HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 07/12/2024 19:36

I guess because the dog belonged to the youngest. He was about eight or nine.... It might have seemed cruel that I was shouting at him

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allthatfalafel · 07/12/2024 19:40

Ablondiebutagoody · 07/12/2024 19:19

Not edgy humour. I just don't think it's for drivers to be dodging out of control animals. Emergency stops aren't without risk and I'm not convinced that a dog/cat/fox/crow is worth it.

Of course they are, are you a sadist?

You do realise a dog is as intelligent as a baby, or would you hit a baby as well?

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 07/12/2024 19:42

@allthatfalafel

I guess what they're saying is if it comes between endangering human life and an animal's life, the human comes first

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allthatfalafel · 07/12/2024 19:43

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 07/12/2024 19:42

@allthatfalafel

I guess what they're saying is if it comes between endangering human life and an animal's life, the human comes first

Endangering human life when it's the driver doing an emergency stop at 20 mph? Give me strength.

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 07/12/2024 19:45

@allthatfalafel

That's fair

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bakewellbride · 07/12/2024 19:50

Don't feel guilty. I lost it and shouted at a child on the street once and didn't have an ounce of guilt about it and still don't.

Beautifulweeds · 07/12/2024 19:57

Not at all! When acting irresponsibility and then nonchalantly, pure human emotion can help to wake them up a bit to the reality! You rightly told them off, they should have had it on a lead and your main instinct was for the danger of the poor dog. I applaud your actions, you did nothing wrong at all, more likely something positive. Xx

Beautifulweeds · 07/12/2024 19:58

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 07/12/2024 19:36

I guess because the dog belonged to the youngest. He was about eight or nine.... It might have seemed cruel that I was shouting at him

You weren't, you were telling the older ones they were being oit of order, which they were. X

Caffeineismydrug35 · 07/12/2024 20:02

And this is why my 11year old and his friends aren’t allowed to take our dog out! So irresponsible. YANBU OP, hopefully they might think twice next time.

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 07/12/2024 20:05

@Caffeineismydrug35

Thank you for being responsible. I think it's probably that age. They just don't foresee all of the things that could happen from not paying attention.

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stargazerlil · 07/12/2024 20:05

Not unreasonable.
Irresponsible parents not teaching their kids how to be socially responsible should to be tied up on the back of a cart with a big sign saying not fit for parenting flashing lights and music and other people can come out and throw tomatoes at them. I’d turn up for it.

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 07/12/2024 20:07

@stargazerlil

That sounds amazing.

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Ablondiebutagoody · 07/12/2024 20:08

allthatfalafel · 07/12/2024 19:40

Of course they are, are you a sadist?

You do realise a dog is as intelligent as a baby, or would you hit a baby as well?

How is the baby going to run into the road?

JohnofWessex · 07/12/2024 20:08

I dont really see how a dog can 'belong' to a child.

The issue I suggest is not the safety of trhe dod but that hitting a dog can potentially

  1. Injure a road user - mainly two wheeled
  2. It can cause trauma to the driver
  3. The Driver then has various legal responsibilities in respect of dog death or injuries
  4. The Dog isnt under proper control in a public place

If you havnt already contact The Police & the Dog Warden. I might also ass Social Services.

My reaction might have been to take their photo's to send to the various agencies.

noctilucentcloud · 07/12/2024 20:54

OP don't be too hard on yourself, it was the fear / adrenaline / memories that made you react. You only shouted and they needed to hear. I think a lot of people would have done the same. If it was my kids I'd hope they learnt a valuable lesson - they'd of been distraught if you hadn't been able to stop. I'm really sorry it brought back bad memories for you, the previous incident sounds awful.

noctilucentcloud · 07/12/2024 21:00

Ablondiebutagoody · 07/12/2024 19:19

Not edgy humour. I just don't think it's for drivers to be dodging out of control animals. Emergency stops aren't without risk and I'm not convinced that a dog/cat/fox/crow is worth it.

There are times when an emergency stop is dangerous (eg 60 mph / motorways). But the OP was on a quiet road, at 20 mph, there was no danger with her emergency stopping. It'd of been horrific if she had chosen not to react. And that would have lead to her having another horrible experience and the kids/teenagers also being affected. I think your logic is false.

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 07/12/2024 21:06

@noctilucentcloud

Thank you for your kind words. It was definitely one of the worst things that I've had happen to me. It was just an awful feeling. So helpless as the dog's life slipped away. And even though I knew it wasn't my fault, knocking on the door of the house to tell the people in there that I had just killed their dog and watching them scream and cry was the worst thing ever.

They were elderly and disabled and the dog was huge so they couldn't move him so I helped drag his body out of the road.

I cried for days.

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noctilucentcloud · 07/12/2024 21:17

Oh OP, how awful. I'm sure, now time has passed, they appreciate you knocking on their door to tell them and then helping to move him. I know I would if it was my dog. I've heard the scream though when someone is told someone or a pet important to them has suddenly died, it's not a sound that leaves you. Be extra nice to yourself tonight. Big, virtual, stranger hugs.

Ablondiebutagoody · 07/12/2024 21:32

noctilucentcloud · 07/12/2024 21:00

There are times when an emergency stop is dangerous (eg 60 mph / motorways). But the OP was on a quiet road, at 20 mph, there was no danger with her emergency stopping. It'd of been horrific if she had chosen not to react. And that would have lead to her having another horrible experience and the kids/teenagers also being affected. I think your logic is false.

I respectfully disagree. I have hit a few things in my time, deer, fox, pigeon, crow, thankfully never a pet. The collision with the deer was scary tbf but not particularly horrible because it wasn't my fault. Not a lot you can do when an animal darts out in front of you.

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