AIBU to think Justin Welby should not receive a Life Peerage?

[ErrolTheDragon]

Traditionally, Archbishops of Canterbury receive a life peerage after leaving office.

Following Welby's horribly misjudged comedy performance in the House of Lords today, AIBU to think he absolutely shouldn't get one?

I've just read the speech and as someone who was abused (as well as most of my childhood friends) in the Church of England, I'm bloody livid.

He just doesn't get it.

His head should should roll like Simon of Sudbury.

I don't know about Williams, but his predecessor George Carey (Baron Carey of Clifton ffs) is heavily implicated not only in negligence re Smythe but also in covering up Bishop Ball's crimes.

It’s because nobody has suggested that Welby committed a criminal offence.

Marina Hyde's article ought to be required reading for everyone in any position associated with the Church of England, as well as every politician.

Agree

It's pretty obvious that bishops shouldn't get any automatic seats in the lords, maybe this will help a push towards rectifying that.

( If there are any who on their own merits can stand as 'the great and the good' alongside people of other religions and none, well fine. While we have this anachronistic system, these places should be earned not be doled out as a right)

All should read the last issue of 'Private Eye' to see the list of 14 high ranking clergy who should at the very least be interviewed under caution for their involvement in the child abuse. Many knew of the abuse and the crimes so should be charged.

As for Welby he should be given a life sentence not a life peerage.

He's a disgrace, and I agree that he shouldn't get a life peerage.

He will, though. It'll be pretty much automatic.

Have any of the other ABoCs resigned ? That surely is a good reason to break precedent.

Welby went to the British Museum trustee dinner the day after he resigned. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ian-hislop-justin-welby-resign-archbishop-b2651254.html

Apparently he's now apologised for any hurt caused.....

Oh good. That makes it all fine and dandy then.

Indeed. Yet another fake apology.

Its also appalling that one of the bishops who was pushing for the resignation is being frozen out. A female bishop, unsurprisingly.

I agree he should not receive a peerage. There are others in the Lords now who should not have done, but two wrongs don't make a right.

Bishop Sarah looks like she wants the floor to open up and swallow her (or maybe him).

Semiramide · Today 14:42

Marina Hyde's article ought to be required reading for everyone in any position associated with the Church of England, as well as every politician.

I agree entirely with her that people facilitating abuse by others, even by inactivity, should go to prison. Welby ignored and sat on complaints and to my mind, that makes him complicit.

Shouldn't be anywhere near a peerage.
On top of his long running inaction tackling the open abuse of children by the church, that statement yesterday was unbelievably ignorant, unapologetic and self-pitying. Not a word to the victims, pity only for himself and his personal diary secretary and, in gobsmackingly tasteless fashion, deeming it a good time make jokes.
Can't stand the man and all the others like him who sit on their hands, look the other way and then deny doing so when called to account.
Their disproportionate power doesn't appear to come with any responsibility to safeguard, apologise for the failure to do so, name and punish offenders, support police action against offenders, and make reparations to the thousands of beleaguered victims whose lives have been ruined.
Welby had the audacity to describe himself as 'technically' in charge, and therefore, big sigh, has no choice but to resign.
What a weasel.
Should be on trial.

How ridiculous. This isn't even a young person who needs to supports themselves, although that is besides the point. This is a well off and elderly person. No downside to him stepping down.

Sorry about that. Needed to get it off my chest x

He should be prosecuted as being an accessory to paedophilia.

Obnoxious man.

Oh yes, the 'technically' in charge.
He was bloody well IN charge.

They don't want sunlight shone on who knew (or did) what. So the whistle-blower gets the flak, twas ever thus.

I don't happen to believe in his particular brand of special book, or any other for that matter, but a lot of people do. And they in turn have leaders who hold a lot of power in communities, and he sat at the top of the tree. So what the weaselly shit says and does matters. Even in his ignominious exit. And he should know that. It wasn't a jokey speech at an office leaving do armed with glasses of fizz.

It just doubled down that he doesn't think institutional abuse of any kind should be taken seriously.

Absolutely, not in 2024. There should be complete separation of church and the legislature.