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To ask - what the fuck is the matter with people who do this?

33 replies

ClairDeLaLune · 03/12/2024 09:03

The thread about the infertile son threatening to kill himself and others - it was a troll. What on earth is the motivation for making stuff up like that? It was a really upsetting thread that many people spent time commenting on and trying to help. It addressed mental health issues and could have been triggering for many. Just why do people do this?

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Lifeomars · 03/12/2024 10:44

FoxtonFoxton · 03/12/2024 09:08

I find the psychology behind trolling fascinating. I googled it a while ago and got into some quite interesting articles about the association with sadism and psychopathy.

  • I find it fascinating too, there is a site I use for local information which has the most horrendous troll on it. When I was on the receiving end of their threats and bile I did quite a lot of reading about the psychology of people who do this and there is definitely a link with the "dark triad" of Narcissism: A pathological form of self-love that can lead to shame-driven rage
  • Machiavellianism: A style of interpersonal strategy that involves manipulation, deception, and self-interest
  • Psychopathy: A trait that is often studied in forensic populations, such as prisoners and mentally disordered offenders . Of course people like that have been around for centuries but the internet and social media have given them a whole new playground. They can assume multiple identities, hound and bully people, manipulate and con them and all form the comfort of their own home.
johnd2 · 03/12/2024 10:45

Maybe some people never get past the pre school role play stage. My kids are constantly making up scenarios and getting me involved, so I guess some people regress back to that stage later in life!

TeaInBed321 · 03/12/2024 10:47

ClairDeLaLune · 03/12/2024 10:00

Mumsnet said it was a PBP, so I was going by that. Agree that often they’re hard to spot though, or people get accused of being them when they’re not.

Oh crikey! I see. Goodness. Well, I have no idea then! And will read the thread with interest!

TheThreeCheesesOfTheApocalypse44 · 03/12/2024 10:57

TeaInBed321 · 03/12/2024 09:15

How do you know it was a troll?

I ask because I have been accused of being a troll and temporarily kicked off Mumsnet by the Mumsnet team in the past. But I really wasn't a troll. People just thought I was and reported me. I think sometimes people's lives are complex and appear unbelievable by some, even when these complex things are really happening in people's lives. In my case (and I have worked on this massively and think I'm better now) I don't always phrase things well and then people make all sorts of assumptions about genuineness etc...

I guess Mumsnet have to make a judgement call as they cannot possibly know someone's intent or if someone's a troll. They likely err on the side of caution and call troll more than trolls exist.

The poster may well not have been a troll.but if people thought they were, Mumsnet may have called it so (and they get it wrong)

I agree to an extent......if I posted aspects of my life on here people would accuse me of trollery.......I wouldn't even bother posting for support. I rely on my dark humour to.get me through......couldn't even make money by writing it down and sending it into Eastenders as a potential script. It would be rejected for being too far fetched 🤣🤣🤣

I do think the troll posts are pretty obvious tho. The more outlandish and dramatic.they are the more likely they are to be fake. That and the large gaps that occur as they sit their rubbing their thighs over the attention they're gleaning off strangers.

timenowplease · 03/12/2024 11:00

I didn't see the thread in question but I have noticed a lot of weird threads recently (more than usual!). Either it's AI or some other kind of training of 'bots' or '50c army' type scenario.

And of course people are fucking weird. Some of the stuff I read on here I find disturbing on a really subliminal level. There are a lot of borderline crazy people out there.

BarbaraHoward · 03/12/2024 11:00

I think it's safest to just assume everyone is a troll, and then post accordingly. Never give too much of yourself online. No poster, real or otherwise, deserves you sharing more than you would want to share on the school run. But if you do choose to share, you may well help someone reading even if the OP is a load of bollocks.

allthatfalafel · 03/12/2024 11:06

teenmaw · 03/12/2024 09:09

Attention seeking presumably. I saw that thread, what flagged that it was a troll, looked legit enough?

It was completely unbelievable, even aside from the highly unlikely extreme reaction on "his" part, a lot of posters asked for details of what type and pointed out there are lots of different options for men, and questioning what he was supposedly told for various reasons as it wouldn't have been done or said that way, and they were all ignored.

binkie163 · 03/12/2024 11:30

Attention seeking sympathy junkies. On one of the groups I found a particularly good resource, we had one poster constantly wanting soothing, sympathy, threatening to end it all, needing somewhere to live, often 2am monologues. People were really kind and patient. A few long time members/posters of the group private mssgd me to say don't waste time or sympathy and to do post history check (didn't know at the time you could) I was shocked to see loads of contradictory posts over many threads, same name but completely different person/circumstances. I think social media really feeds this type of manipulative person, a constant source of supply. Most people kindly share their experience but not everyone is who they portray themselves to be and far from honest.

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