Louise Haigh

[Tryingtokeepgoing]

AIBU to think that if you really didn’t commit the crime, don’t plead guilty even if your solicitor advises you to. I mean, sure, for a traffic or speeding offence maybe that’d be the expedient thing to do. But fraud…?

Louise Haigh resigns over stolen mobile phone fraud conviction

https://www.thetimes.com/article/6772fe81-8e36-4e5d-baa8-4902a6553b4d?shareToken=3fe1e52cb5b31dc1a3e40721c219a69e

It's a shame that we've lost the first Transport Secretary with more than one-and-a-half braincells since McLoughlin. When Grayling went I cheered, then Shapps made me miss Grayling. Harper achieved nothing.

On the plus side, Heidi Alexander has a lot of experience.

Eh? Are you smoking something? She was a useless moron as well as an ex-con.

The Times have just reported that the phone she reported as stolen when she was apparently mugged was used to call one of her relatives.

I think it was Starmer who said in 2022, when trying to hold the last government to account that “You cannot be a lawbreaker and a law maker”

And yet apparently he was aware of her fraud conviction but still gave her a place in cabinet. Although it appears she was economical with the truth to him as well. You’d think a half decent lawyer would have seen through that though…

Indeed. She was doing well. Hopefully Alexander will be as good.

I interpret that to be not breaking the law at the same time as being in government, like so many of the last lot.

Splitting hairs …,
Break the law first, shouldn’t be in government after.

I don’t agree it’s splitting hairs. One thing to have committed a crime in the past and to have moved on. Another thing entirely to be simultaneously making laws whilst breaking them.

The “law profession” would bar her … politics should be same. Don’t want to give anyone a chance to break laws WHILE making them.

Too late now for LH. Wanted her fraud and also eat the cake.

What about Christian forgiveness?

Is that the same Christian forgiveness that protects paedophiles? I think we can safely ignore that…

That’s a very generous, or one might even say rose (or red…) tinted interpretation!!

No, it's the same Christian forgiveness that Farage wants for the Reform MP who was convicted of assaulting his girlfriend. I hope you're campaigning for him to resign.

Yes, he should resign as an MP, just as Haigh should as well.

And in cases using the government office to do it.

Anyway it is nice that breaking the law as an MP that is now a thing that is seen as bad. It largely hasn’t been something you should worry about or that is important for the last 5 years or so.

She studied law. Maybe there are different branches, but you’d expect that doing what your lawyer told you to do, despite being innocent would not be the act of someone who thought that they had a reasonable defence and had legal knowledge.

I'm sorry but the justifications on this thread are hitting the ludicrous.

Labour promised to clean up the dodgy dealings and poor ethics and should not appoint someone with a criminal record for fraud (of all things) to a cabinet position. No ifs, no buts.

It's a terrible look, whatever party you voted for. Just because previous politicians have also proved themselves unfit for office doesn't make it right. We should want and expect better.

Then politics needs new policies. You can't have one rule for one party and a different rule for everyone else.

What a weird equivalence. Why is it @Tryingtokeepgoing 's responsibility to campaign for that?

It’s not one rule for tories and one for Labour - why do you think Labour are in government now? People wanted change and part of that was cleaning up politics

and part of the problem in politics is this blinkered tribalism to the bad in your team and the good in the opposition.

Because she has very strong opinions about someone with a criminal record being an MP. Therefore I would expect someone with such strong opinions to apply them across the board.

An MP from Reform has a spent conviction as well, I consider domestic abuse worse than phone fraud so I hope she is equally fervent about his resignation.

Again, the two are not related. The thread is about Louise Haigh.

This is very tiresome. The thread is about an MP with a criminal record, they're very obviously related.

You can't criticise one MP and not other MPs with criminal records.

Multiple instances and sacked from an insurance company.

The biggest question is perhaps what's the vetting process for labour MPs. Did they have no one better?

Why don’t you make a new thread titled “All criminal activities of all MPs”?
Then you can happily list them all.

This one is specifically about Louise Haigh.