Adult DD and DH butting heads. Please help?

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Has anyone experienced or know someone who is struggling to get a primary school teacher job and end up being stuck doing supply?

I am asking this because my DD qualified as a primary teacher 2 years ago and has been doing supply since and despite applying for countless jobs has not been successful yet. DD lives at home and it's causing a bit of friction with her dad as he keeps telling her she'll need to look for jobs outside of teaching because she can't carry on doing supply for much longer. DD thinks her dad is being interfering.

Maybe she just needs to look for jobs outside of the location area she is currently looking in ?

A lot of people want to be primary school teachers and there are only so many jobs.

In some areas of the country (London) there are a lot of jobs because it doesn't really pay well compared to your living costs.

In other areas (Cornwall) there are very few vacancies because lots of people like it down there and it's hard to get started.

So - depends where you are.

He is being interfering. What's it got to do with him what her job is? She's not got a permanent teaching job yet, but she's apparently getting supply work and that's fine. It's all good experience. Presumably she's still be living with you even if she was in a permanent role, given that she's newly qualified and teaches primary. I think your DH needs to keep his beak out - she's an adult woman in her 20s; her career isn't his business.

What's wrong with doing supply? My partner did it for about 5 years when we moved out of London (as pp mentioned, jobs are harder to come by outside of London) and he had daily calls for supply. I imagine she is not exactly short of work at the moment so your husband needs to chill.

She’s an adult. He needs to butt out and leave her to it. Why is he so bothered?

Yes I do know a couple of people who did supply for their first year then got permanent jobs. It depends on your area but in a lot of places there just aren't enough primary school teacher jobs.
I don't think your DD needs to get a different job because there's nothing wrong with supply, she's getting experience and pay. But she might want to consider widening the area she is searching for jobs in or even looking at secondary school jobs- my cousin qualified as a primary teacher but ended up teaching years 7-9 in secondary, in her subject there was far more need for secondary teachers

Supply teaching is excellent experience, you get a wide range of different schools and approaches which helps to see what you like and dislike. Also if you’re not doing long term supply no planning, report writing etc.
Her Dad should butt out.

Why is it his business?

I know two people who do full time supply and prefer it.

What’s his problem?

as long as DD is able to financially support herself I don't see the issue with doing supply

I’m assuming he wants her to get a permanent job so she can move out?

Is she honestly looking everywhere she can, or is she quite happy at home, on supply,

Is she getting plenty of supply work? If so then I don't see the problem. I've worked with supply teachers who prefer the flexibility of it.

Are you in Scotland?

if so, I’d encourage her to look outside the teaching profession. It’s so difficult to get a job. It’s appalling that they’re still churning out graduates when there are no jobs.

Why would she move out just because she isn’t doing supply?

What exactly is his issue with this? Is she paying her way?

He needs to cut her some slack.

It's none of his business what she does. It's up to her as long as the plan is to works towards moving out etc

Yet we are apparently crying out for teachers 🤷‍♀️ honestly my friend does nothing but supply she loves it

Presumably moving out whilst doing supply could be difficult (to prove income) and risky for her personally in case she didn’t get the work.

No I meant why does she have to move out?

OP is there a problem with her behaviour? Many twenty something people are staying living with parents for longer because it’s so difficult to rent or build up a deposit Well, it certainly is in the SE where I am.

What’s your husband’s issue with this? Does he think your daughter should be earning more to pay more rent, or save up for a deposit? Or is he just of the view that supply teaching is not a “proper job”?

The first one affects him in some way (although I personally wouldn’t be pushing my child to look for work outside of her field of study). If it’s the second, he just needs to keep his views to himself - it isn’t his choice.

Yes and they couldn’t get a permanent contract despite trying. I think it was the location. They eventually decided supply was the way they would go and stopped trying for permanent. This was great for them - reduced planning and organisational stuff and flexibility so cheaper holidays. There are upsides.