To remind you of this, when you argue with neighbours over parking spaces.

[dottypotter]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-61760338.amp

To those who keep advocating trying to get back at neighbours and saying it gets easier the more you confront them etc.
Please read this. 2 children are growing up without parents over a parking space row that escalated.
Both thought they were in the right.

Is it worth it?
You never know who your dealing with.
Just a reminder in case people had forgotten about this.

If I don't let my neighbour park on my drive, they'll murder me and I'll only have myself to blame? Thanks for the warning.

Ummm. 99.99999999 % of neighbours can have disagreements without turning to murder.

What a ridiculous point you're trying to make.

Just a reminder for what? To walk on eggshells lest you aggravate an unhinged man to stab you?

I don’t think the lesson here is that people should bow down to absolute dickheads and let them run our neighbourhoods.

Why on earth have you dredged this up, a propos of nothing, after 2 and a half years? Very odd.

Wow thanks for that, let's all be doormats and be afraid to stand up for ourselves. Well I had a clusterfuck neighbour who thought they were well hard too, funnily enough we did not take your advice and they moved out after we finally confronted them after months of abuse and just putting up with it by keeping the peace.

The chance of getting stabbed or killed like that is most probably like 01.% , i'll take my chances and not be subject to ongoing antisocial behavior.

Dotty, did you know the poor family involved? It's an incredibly sad story, and it seems like it's really stuck with you.

After I moved into my new house, I learned the previous owners had had a really bad dispute with the neighbour that started with a fence maintenance disagreement and escalated to minor vandalism and name calling on both sides.

So far we've had no problems— I think once you both start feuding it's hard to go back.

Well I'm glad everyone seems to have the same view as me. How ridiculous.

It is this paranoia about the tiny minority of unhinged people that is causing us all to retreat further ad further rinto our own worlds, losing any sense of community and, increasingly, limiting and restricting our children.

I consider this story to be more of a lesson in how the armed forces is letting their veterans down by not identifying those who need help and supporting them.

As ever the first post usually nails it.

This person died due to extreme violence not because of a parking space

I know someone whose sister was stabbed over a row about footballs going over fences. Does that mean we should never ask for our footballs back?

Of course, if SIL is on MN I will shortly receive a message from her with a link to this story and a comment about how we all have to be careful. Sigh.

Exactly, and most people who have a complaint against a neighbour have never actually spoken to them. The first time they speak it's a complaint. It just goes from there.

Parking spaces are the most argued about thing.
You get people on here some not all, but some people encouraging people to get back at others.
There was one person who said leave glass on the driveway.
When it all blows up, where will the person on MN be?
Everything thinks they are right even if they aren't.
You think your right, your neighbour thinks they are right. You get nowhere.
You don't know who your dealing with when you argue.
You have to live among your neighbours.
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We had the neighbour who thought she was queen of the street and thought she not only had the power to get us to park somewhere else,but she 'wanted us out of your house and will stop at nothing to force you out'

(jokes on her,what she didn't know is we own our house so had no landlord for her to complain at)

She had fuck all power (apart from a massive ego and an even bigger gob)

Problem was solved when she accidentally burnt her house down-not one neighbour has complained about our parking since

There's no way she would have tried to stab us-she was all gob,no brains and nothing else

These types (mostly) always are

You don't know who your dealing with when you argue.

So you can nevre challenge anyone, over anything?

Argh, ridiculous

Get a grip. Never challenge anyone in life just in case.

You don't know who your dealing with when you argue.

So all the neighbours who have threaten children with their behaviour should be allowed to get away with it?

So amongst other things you are saying it is fine for a toddler to be beaten up? A young teen to be raped?

Of course you can but don't be surprised if it dosent go to plan or it escalates.
Everything thinks they are right, even if they aren't.😧

Bloody daft post.

Well actually, I would be hugely surprised if it escalates massively. Even more so if it lands up in someone knifing someone. Becuase those are NOT normal responses to someone challenging someone, or normal arguments.

It' slike saying all teenagers sould never be allowed out becuase 1 teenager was killed.

Equally by being a doormat and showing how weak willed you are and viewed as an easy target will likely get you fixed firmly in their sights for extended abuse and potential harm.

Let's all act like weak silly little women, and put up with whatever shit our neighbors do.

You've obviously Led a sheltered life if you don't believe neighbours are at war
You've only got to look on mumsnet, Facebook or watch neighbours from hell to see how many problems there are.

I do agree with, 'Don't start a fight when you don't know the type of person you're dealing with'. I would hope you could judge how risky starting (or continuing) a vendetta with a neighbour was, but I'm amazed how many people are willing to get into road rage knowing nothing about the people in the other car, or if they will get out of their car mob handed or with a tyre iron or a knife in their hand.

So lots of MN posters have been murdered have they?

Can I also just point out that even if your concern is about general bad vibes between neighbours, that is often about HOW people engage with each other. We had a parking dispute. Neighbour told us not to park there. We said it was our spot. They said it wasn't. We looked it up. Turned out, embarssingly, neighbour was right. We apologised. We stopped parking there and had to have a similar conversation with the person who, it turned out, was parking in our space. Job done.

One logical extension of OP's post is that women shouldn't walk down the street because they might provoke an axe wielding sex pest. I prefer to assume that most people are rational adults rather than live a half life in fear.

Thanks.
Like I said that people don't take on board is that everyone always thinks they are right, even if they aren't.
Ever had a neighbour say sorry and admit they were wrong.
Nobody wants to be told they are wrong. You see it on the road, ppl flicking vs instead of being curteous.
We don't live in that kind of society anymore.
Alot of people will also try to retaliate with something.
Let's hear some stories of someone who confronted a neighbour without any repercussions and everything been ok since.