TW: 9 year old girl sold as a slave to a 55 year old man

[WiseGreyShark]

9 year old girl sold to 55 year old

Its on Reddit, from a CNN report.

Made my blood boil. Why can't we freely call out cultures and customs like this?

Because then you get called a far right extremist

Because you might get fired.

No

I see you are conflating legitimate outrage against the abuse ofwomen and girls … with believing untrue rumours on social media, assaulting police officers, and trying to burn people alive.

Easy to do (if you subscribe to dog-whistle right-wing nonesense)

Who’s stopping you, or anyone, from calling this behaviour out ?

This was a few years ago. And she was rescued and back home

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/02/asia/afghanistan-parwana-girls-marriage-intl-hnk-dst/index.html

Threads like this absolutely bonkers. If anyone wants to do good, it’s dead easy. Posting rubbish like that, it’s just pathetic

The story is from 2021.

”After an international outcry as a result of CNN’s story, Parwana was returned to her family due to the backlash from the community against the buyer. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/02/asia/afghanistan-parwana-girls-marriage-intl-hnk-dst/index.html

Things will be worse and unknown now that the West has no presence there and anyone who was seen as an ally to the West will have been killed. Women and girls can’t go to school, women can’t be doctors and women’s voices can’t be heard.

It’s been happening for decades in multiple countries. I hate it when the media calls it “child bride” or “marriage”, it’s transactional rape and murder by rape. This is a 2013 story from Yemen.

“It comes amid an international outcry over reports that an eight-year-old girl died of internal bleeding on the night she wed a 40-year-old man.” https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-24083127.amp

How could that man continue his attack on such a tiny girl? How can anyone call her a bride or wife or him a groom or husband in that context? She was totally disposable to him.

It's common in Asia, Africa and Latin America, not just Muslim cultures. It’s been reported on since early 2000s, and Amnesty International has been championing girls causes since I was at school. A paper from 2009 discussing it as a global public health issue. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2672998/

It’s a terrible issue and makes my blood boil. Even more so when people try to use it build hate against groups, when it affects female children all over the world in multiple communities and religions - their concern isn’t for the girls, it’s rooted in hate. Saying “why does no one talk about this”, they do it’s been championed by large charities for decades.

Correct @BakeOffRewatch she was returned to her family after being rescued by a charity

I really don't understand why they returned her to her family... Id expect the father to just sell her again

The situation in Afghanistan is horrendous. This is just one of millions of problems.

Thank goodness this little girl was rescued , I hate to think of the trauma she’s suffered. And there will be thousands more who aren’t rescued. And what is to stop her father selling her again, or the next daughter?
Every solution I try to think of hits a brick wall —- free vasectomies ( not going to happen) Educating men to respect and value girls,

One thing women can do is write to their MPs. The UK should be joining with Germany, the Netherlands, Canada & Australia to bring the Taliban to the International Court of Justice to be held accountable for their crimes & the more MPs who push Starmer to do this, the better.

You can call out appalling behaviour. However, before you do ensure you know all the facts and understand that 'someone on the internet' or, increasingly, a big chunk of the media is going to have an agenda.

Also, and I'm not aiming this at you, OP, do not take the deeds of one person or one small extreme group of people and use it to generalise about a much larger group of people who had no involvement in said behaviour and then urge others to take action against said group. This is what people who cry 'we're not allowed to say that anymore' seem to have an issue understanding.

It's also not very helpful to have threads navel-gazing and saying how awful something is without offering any ways in which people who are rightly appalled can help the situation. For example, in this case it might be to provide information on the charity that helped the girl. Endless people saying how awful it is doesn't really help anyone.

You can, no one is ever going to pull you up for condemning slavery and/or paedophilia. No matter what the daily mail says.

What's stopping you calling out the human right abuses in Afghanistan? Plenty of human rights charities and advocate groups do; Amnesty Internation, Women for Afghan Women, UNICEF, Women Peace and Security Index, the UN... the problems in Afghanistan is well established

The charity hat helped was apparently Too Young To Wed edition.cnn.com/2021/12/02/asia/afghanistan-parwana-girls-marriage-intl-hnk-dst/index.html

People object to "calling out" when it's actually just using cases like this to justify hatred of anyone who happens to be Middle Eastern or Muslim

Educating women and girls is the consistently proven way to improve a society.

Exactly - from the same halfwits' school of thought as "you can't say anything nowadays" and "did you know it's against the law to fly the flag of St George?". These beliefs are impervious to fact and reason, so save your frustration!

As far as I'm aware EVERYONE 'calls out' the Taliban and the Nazi high state of sexism that's the Afghanistan of today under their rule.

But I suspect that's not what you're inferring.

I suspect you're inferring that people aren't 'calling out' Islam. Because you want to hold up Islam as the problem.

In fact @WiseGreyShark is perfectly at liberty to "call out" islam as much as she wants. There's nothing to stop anyone from criticising any religion (and they all need thorough criticism in my opinion).

I think what she really means is that if she does blame this on islam she will find that people are quite entitled to argue back at her, which is actually her complaint!

People can, and do, call out this barbaric practice.

CNN
Reddit
The charity To Young To Wed who rescued the child.
Other charities who rescue and support victims.
The child's mother.
The "husband's" community.
Even the Taliban. IIRC the legal age to wed in Afganistan is 15.
You are doing it here @WiseGreyShark.

I voted YABU, not because I think children should be forced to marry but because you are using their terrible plight to try to make out that you are the victim. I find it distasteful in the extreme.

Well Kemi Badenoch said that not all cultures are equally valid and was widely criticised and called a racist for it.

this would seem to be a very good example of a culture that’s not worthy of respect.

Educating girls is difficult when they’re prevented from going to school and they hold little to no power to change anything atm. Maybe educating boys to change attitudes will help in time.
I saw when we lived in Africa ( predominantly Muslim country) that many young men who were more educated than the previous generation were more keen to have smaller families. Whereas it had previously been admired that a man fathered 20 plus kids the young men I talked with saw the difficulties with this ( money to house, feed, educate so many children) and 3 or 4 children was seen as better. They also expected their future wives to be educated to secondary school level or beyond and continue to work if they had a career.
So a double prong attack in education would maybe be the best option?

No one. This nonsense about "you can't say this, because you'll be called that" is lazy ignorant bollocks. This sort of thing is happening in some Deep Southern states in the USA, but it's not being "called out" because the communities are white.