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If I was rich I'd have a warm home

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spanieleyes22 · 21/11/2024 11:31

I hate the cold! Currently wfh with about 5 layers on and a hot water bottle and a blanket. Have a little electric heater on in this room but rest of the house is v v cold. Going to put oven on in a minute with the door open so I can do the dishes. If I am ever rich I will have a warm home and not be worrying about the cost of heating it! Went to bed at 6 pm last night to save money: feels like being in prison with the long evenings and trying to keep warm!!!

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Doggymummar · 21/11/2024 15:36

cardibach · 21/11/2024 15:26

Summer bill? Like for the summer quarter? Or per month? Or is this the amount you pay every month by DD?
Mine is under £100 per month for both gas and electric (fairly small terraced house) DD. I am going to put the heating on more this year though and if I have to pay more then so be it.

Monthly with UW on the lowest tariff. We have a smart meter so we know it's correct. The gas and electric combined but gas is very minimal as only the shower and heating is gas.

bellalou1234 · 21/11/2024 15:38

I'm in the same boat, op. I'm freezing. Only plus for me is I. Night shift, so sleep all day. The heated blankets are lifesaver.

Wellingtonspie · 21/11/2024 15:40

And to think the government where / are banning gas boilers eventually so everyone will end up on electric heating. Boggling.

Stickseas0n · 21/11/2024 15:42

I am absolutely freezing, also have four children in the house so I've just thought stuff it, I'll put the heating on.
I'm on a pay as you go meter for gas and it doesn't seem too expensive

ChiaraRimini · 21/11/2024 15:43

Get a heated throw OP.
I've been in my oodie all day with a fleece blanket over my legs WFH, and that's with the heating on.

cardibach · 21/11/2024 15:48

Doggymummar · 21/11/2024 15:36

Monthly with UW on the lowest tariff. We have a smart meter so we know it's correct. The gas and electric combined but gas is very minimal as only the shower and heating is gas.

That’s insane. Is the house very large/inefficient? It’s not the summer bill if it’s monthly DD though - it’s adjusted so it’s the same all year. If you don’t pay DD then get it checked - how is it coming to that with no heating at all?

Superworm24 · 21/11/2024 15:53

I used to live in a flat with massive single glazed windows and electric storage heaters. It was pretty grim in the winter but I did find ways of making it more manageable.

If you go round the windows and doors with a candle you can check for draughts. On most of the windows I used that weird plastic sheet double glazing that you set with a hair dryer. Then I pinned heat reflective fabric to the backs of the curtains but even cheap fleece would probably help. Sometimes expensive, heavy fabric curtains come up on FB marketplace. Door curtains and then draught excluders also help.

Only heating you main room is the cheapest option but it is depressing when you need a wee or to make a cup of tea. Anything you can do to make your main spaces feel cosy so for me that a heated throw, rugs, fairy lights and some candles.

Make sure you have some slippers and a thick dressing gown. Its still shit having to get up in the cold but they help. I also have one of those oodie things which could help. I've seen once which you can shove a hot water bottle in to a pocket on the front.

They are expensive to run but I used to have a little fan heater. I found getting dressed in front of it was cheaper than trying to heat the whole room if I was going out.

Baths, hot drinks and a good warm meal all help. Even though I'm in a house with central heating I still sometimes can't get warm if I've been out in the cold. Then only a bath or a hot shower will work

Misorchid · 21/11/2024 16:12

Living alone in a largish house, it seems wasteful to turn the ch on for long periods.
I have halogen heaters and they are very economical, plus a heated throw, which is a lifesaver.
Ch comes on when family or visitors stay or I get too cold.

Balloonhearts · 21/11/2024 16:18

I live in a 1 bed flat, very small and still can't afford to heat it. Living room is absolutely freezing, even the hamster refuses to get up unless he's thirsty. He's taken the whole contents of his food bowl into his bed. Think I might copy him.

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 21/11/2024 16:21

@potatocakesinprogress You're right. I have no idea why I've been wasting money on other things when I could be putting it towards heating. Obviously I'll need to really cutback on non essentials. What do you think I should stop wasting my money on? Food or rent?

Magnolia82 · 21/11/2024 16:23

It's horrible, isn't it? I'm in a rented flat that only has electric heating. It's so expensive. I've been so cold today.

It's on Economy 10, so I find myself trying to plan my use of any appliances around the cheaper times. I have an oil filled radiator that I move around, but try not to use it much as watching the cost go up on the smart meter is really quite scary.

cardibach · 21/11/2024 16:23

Misorchid · 21/11/2024 16:12

Living alone in a largish house, it seems wasteful to turn the ch on for long periods.
I have halogen heaters and they are very economical, plus a heated throw, which is a lifesaver.
Ch comes on when family or visitors stay or I get too cold.

That might not be very good for your house though. When you say it ‘seems wasteful’ do you mean you could afford to but it seems unnecessary? I think it’s very necessary to preserve the fabric of the house.

eqpi4t2hbsnktd · 21/11/2024 16:27

I hear you. I am on £80k and can't afford to heat my house. I wfh with my Uggs and coat on. How mad is that? I am considered really well off in the UK... don't feel it. feel cold.

Copernicus321 · 21/11/2024 16:30

Not helpful, perhaps, but useful to maintain a perspective if nothing else.

It's only in the last 60-50 years that most of us in the UK now expect to be warm indoors in the winter. My childhood was spent wearing thermals and 2 layers of everything else then coat, hat and mittens when indoors. It was normal to see your breath in every room. In the mornings the curtains would be stiff with frost and there would be ice on the inside of the windows (single glazed drafts sash windows). This was a pretty normal experience and nobody commented about it. We kept warm underneath electric blankets and additional blankets while sitting on the sofa. Electric blankets are incredibly cheap to run, running on a medium level they cost less than 4p an hour. We might not have been able to heat the house but we could make a tent of warmth from our shoulders down to our feet.

Japan has colder winters than the UK, most houses don't have central heating but a kotatsu, a heated seat.

MyKindCrab · 21/11/2024 16:35

hattie43 · 21/11/2024 12:06

@spanieleyes22

If you are in a rented property all houses / flats have to be a C rated EPC by 2030.
This should help with the cold . Having said that for some older properties the landlord may just stop renting out because of the costs in increasing the rating .

Except if you live in those owned by the Duchies managed by the Royal family. One in seven of their rented houses do not meet this standard.

MyKindCrab · 21/11/2024 16:36

@Copernicus321 Not true. People complained bitterly about being cold and chilblains were normal.

Summerhillsquare · 21/11/2024 16:38

Doggymummar · 21/11/2024 15:21

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235743939727?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=w-7uoGyaTim&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=MtrPUA8PQdC&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY

It's this one, there are a few reviews on it. I think the fact I am buying one 24 hours later tells you my feelings.

Edited

I have the Dunelm teddy fleece blanket, bigger, cheaper and I love it!

dollyop · 21/11/2024 16:38

potatocakesinprogress · 21/11/2024 15:04

It's purely a cultural thing, a weird quirk of the UK. No other country behaves like it's a crime to put the heating on and they'll have to declare bankruptcy if they do.

Once you snap out of the cultural prison, you'll discover that putting the heating on is a better way to spend your money than most other things because you're less depressed, you don't mind getting out of bed in the morning, and everyone in your household is happier.

But our energy prices are sky-high compared to many other countries. We pay a lot in green subsidies here.

Peopleinmyphone · 21/11/2024 16:40

I would really reccomend an electric blanket if you don't have one already but I am sorry. It's rubbish to be cold x

Copernicus321 · 21/11/2024 16:43

You're right... what I should have written is perhaps we were resigned to the cold. I'd forgotten about chilblains. I never had them myself but then again I never took my hat and mittens off between November and end of February. I wore my hat in bed.

Butterfly123456 · 21/11/2024 16:44

This is interesting and something that I could never understand. I grew up in one of the "poorer" European countries with long winters, where temperatures often fall below -10C. Like most of other families, we had a coal central heating in our semi. It was always very warm at home, around 22C. The only time it was "cold" (around 17C) was when I came home from school and parents were still at work. Only when an adult came back home they made "fire" in the basement's central heating system. They had to do this every day and buying tones of coal was something that everybody saved for the entire year, because you simply could not survive without it. Having moved to UK, I'm still surprised after more than a decade why heating is seen as a luxury here and not as something normal that you should budget for and think ahead for the comfort of your children and the whole family. I mean, why would you have Xbox/Playstation, holidays in Lanzarote, nights out every weekend, but not something as basic as heating in winter? My mother lives in a big house and still spends over 1200GBP per year to heat her house and we are talking about the country with half of UK average wages. At my house here the termostat is always at 18C, but it's warmer in the living room. We never thought it's a waste of money, we budget for it. Cultural difference, I guess...

DragonFly98 · 21/11/2024 16:47

Doggymummar · 21/11/2024 15:21

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235743939727?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=w-7uoGyaTim&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=MtrPUA8PQdC&var=&widgetver=artemis&media=COPY

It's this one, there are a few reviews on it. I think the fact I am buying one 24 hours later tells you my feelings.

Edited

Ahh yes good point re the prompt repurchase! Thank you.

Fooshufflewickjbannanapants · 21/11/2024 16:48

No holidays in lanzarote here or nights out, it's currently 12.9 in my living room, but thermals and a fluffy onsie plus thermal socks are on and a hot cup of tea helps! But it would be great not to have to think about bills in that way.

PerditaLaChien · 21/11/2024 16:52

Can you do everything possible to insulate? Thick blankets hung at windows etc. Get the whole family in one room - bodies generate heat. Do an exercise video before bed so you are nice and warm!
Then any time you run your oven etc make sure you leave the oven door open afterwards to allow the heat to warm the room.

Misorchid · 21/11/2024 16:54

cardibach · 21/11/2024 16:23

That might not be very good for your house though. When you say it ‘seems wasteful’ do you mean you could afford to but it seems unnecessary? I think it’s very necessary to preserve the fabric of the house.

I do put the ch on regularly, but not for really long periods.
I can afford it and I’m sure the house is getting properly warmed through, but you have a point and I may turn it on more often.