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For buying my elderly father new clothes?

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DesertKumquat · 20/11/2024 14:29

I’ve just visited my elderly father who lives on his own. We live some distance apart so I don’t get to see him often. My mother passed a few years ago and she would always buy him clothes, he never bought any himself. She used to constantly complain about the way he would dress himself, for example a dress shirt tucked into sweat pants, paired with socks and sandals. When I saw him he was wearing a stained hat and a threadbare faded windbreaker. Sometimes he looks like what you would think a homeless man would look like, except he has a home and plenty of money. He’s not cheap either, he’s very generous and he’ll spend money on things, he just never bothers with clothes. I’ve started very occasionally buying him clothes as otherwise he will just continue on with the shabby stained threadbare look until the clothes literally fall to bits.

This time around I bought him a good quality coat and hat, neither of which were cheap, in styles and colours he normally wears. I mention the cost because he hates anything cheap, yet wears old stained clothing, makes no sense but anyways. Whenever I do this I know I’m in for a battle where he turns grumpy and sour that I bought him clothing, as if I presented him with a stinking bag of refuse for him to throw out rather than nice new clothing. However he always wears the clothing, although we have yet to see with the coat and hat. I’ll find out tomorrow, otherwise I have another battle on my hands.

Why bother? Because he’s my father and I feel a responsibility to him and my mother, because I know she would not like to see him looking like this. I don’t think he has a sentimental attachment to the clothing, I think he just can’t be bothered. My guess is that me buying him clothing feels like I’m trying to control or baby him or something.

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SpanThatWorld · 20/11/2024 14:38

My husband would wear a sack if left to his own devices. A clean, ironed sack but one that had more holes than cloth because "it's fine. What's the problem?"

His adult kids buy him new clothes which he puts in a drawer because the old stuff is "fine". Years those shirts and jumpers sit there... And don't even think about throwing the old stuff out...

I occasionally point out that he has nice shirts in the cupboard when he's wearing the one with the collar hanging off and a hole under the armpit.

But it's fine. Apparently.

EatTheBastard · 20/11/2024 14:44

You know your dad best, of course, but I wonder if he is depressed? Especially as you said your mum had sadly passed away and you mention you live some distance away and don't get to see him much.

Does he have an active social life? Does he have friends, hobbies, or interests? I'm asking because you mentioned if he doesn't, I'm wondering if that is the problem to solve first.. If he was socially active and interested in life, he would want to loo

It is very hard to lose a life partner and so easy to start a decline into depression, which manifests as stopping taking care of yourself.

caringcarer · 20/11/2024 14:51

I think it could be a combination of just not thinking about buying clothes because your Mum always bought it for him and him not bothering to care about himself like he used too. You could point out to him your Mum would be so upset if she could see the scruffy and uncared for way he looked now. Suggest he gives you a set amount each month and you pick him some new clothes.

PineappleCoconut · 20/11/2024 14:55

My elderly father also lived alone, and I'd resort to buying new things that looked like the old ones, washing & ironing, and replacing them when he wasn't looking. It was easier that way. Thankfully M&S keeps their old men's wear fairy consistent, so it was relatively easy to sneak newer versions of the same thing in.
I did once make the mistake of giving him new pants, in black rather than white, but was ordered back to m&s to exchange them as 'only ladies of the night wear black pants' apparently Grin

timenowplease · 20/11/2024 14:57

Are you my sister?? 🤣

Don't know why my father is like this. When my mother was alive she used to hide the worst of the clothing in the hope he'd forget about them.

PragmaticIsh · 20/11/2024 15:01

Hmm, are you my sister??

I have exactly the same issue with my DF since my DM died a few years ago. I recently spotted him in a shop and then realised he was wearing this grotty, old fleece that looked as though a dog had slept on it. He has lovely clothes at home! Not sure how you proceed but you're not unreasonable to keep buying him new clothes. I might take my DF shopping soon, he needs some new trousers and it won't happen if I don’t force the issue.

Catza · 20/11/2024 15:04

Well, yes, you are babying him and so did your mum but what's the alternative? You either accept that he dresses the way he likes and let him crack on or you continue buying him clothes and go through a ritual of him being offended but then wearing them anyway.

Gamells · 20/11/2024 15:05

"I don’t think he has a sentimental attachment to the clothing, I think he just can’t be bothered."

There could be a load of other reasons besides either of these. I can relate to this with both my dad and my child. In our case you can say sensory/autism... I'm not trying to diagnose you dad or anything, I'm just saying there will be a reason and it could well be something you haven't thought of.

I know you are putting effort in because it's important to you, but maybe this IS him putting effort in too, because he knows it is important to you. He is wearing the new clothes even if this might be difficult for him. Do what you need to do, I'm sure it's done from a place of love, but do it with as much respect for him and as little judgement as you can manage.

Simplepink · 20/11/2024 15:05

My old (ish!) dad is also like this!
my mum recently died and I’ve been wondering how to handle it. He sometimes goes about the village we live in looking a bit homeless 🤣
He is an intelligent man who had a successful career but a real blind spot with when to throw clothes away!

TheYearOfSmallThings · 20/11/2024 15:08

YANBU, and if he wears the clothes I would just ignore the grumbling when you present them to him.

He probably needs new pants and vests too.

MiraculousLadybug · 20/11/2024 15:09

Maybe he found it controlling that your DM bought him clothes and constantly criticised what he wanted to wear. It sounds like he wishes that you would just stop. Does it matter that he looks shabby?

Fairyliz · 20/11/2024 15:11

This is definitely an old man thing; lots of them do it.
I visited an elderly relative yesterday and nagged him about his ripped/torn sweatshirt which we worked out was over 30 years old. I suppose you could say it was good quality as he wears it on average twice a week.
DH (mid 60’s) is going this way; I have to tell him several times to throw stuff away. I’m sure if I pop my clogs before him he will be wearing rags like a homeless man.

TheTruthICantSay · 20/11/2024 15:48

Well, my dad is perfectly capable of buying clothes but it's become a bit of a thing that his aunt buys him shirts or jumpers for birthdays and christmas. He also quite likes it if I come with him to buy clothes when he needs them - although he pays.

Would your father agree to go shopping with you? if not, I'd keep buying them, although perhaps for birthday , fathers day etc?

Or can you say to him, "Look dad, mum bought your clothes, I know you hate shopping - so give me £100 every now and again and I'll make sure you're kitted out the way she'd have wanted you to be."

cheezncrackers · 20/11/2024 15:51

Everyone needs new clothes every now and again - even the old. But I think a lot of men don't really enjoy clothes shopping. If he's dressing like he's homeless it does sound like you need to step into that clothes buying role though!

DesertKumquat · 20/11/2024 19:19

Thanks everyone for your input. I had no idea this was so common! I’m seeing him again today so I guess I’ll find out if he has accepted the coat and hat. Either he will show up wearing it, all good, or he will have a strop and tell me not to buy him clothes again, and then the rest of this visit will be awkward and uneasy. I know strop sounds dismissive but that’s what it’s like. I’ll tell him I’m doing this both for him and for mum. He loved and still loves my mother dearly.

I do think he’s likely depressed but he’s never been a social person and has no real hobbies. He used to be a workaholic. Since my mother passed he mainly watches YouTube (that’s a whole nother topic…). He won’t discuss mental health, counselling, or anything like this.

Unfortunately he definitely won’t go shopping with me. As for being ND I’m fairly certain he has undiagnosed ADHD, no idea if that has anything to do with this, and additionally, he hates to be told what to do. But the funny thing is he will often ask me for advice in a round about way, dismiss what I say, and then end up listening to me. Does my head in. He calls me nearly every day, which I don’t mind tbh.

I’ve seen the way strangers treat and look at him with disdain due to his homeless look, which he’s oblivious to. He didn’t even realise his hat was stained, and when I pointed it out, he inspected it with surprise, and then put it on! Mind you he was planning to get ready for bed soon when he did this. He is extremely stubborn.

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sprigatito · 20/11/2024 19:25

I've just presented my father with a clean outfit and firmly bullied sent him upstairs to change into it so I can wash the stuff he's had on all week. He's 84 with Alzheimer's and lives with me, but he's never been housetrained, sleeps in his clothes and wouldn't change them unless I made him! I just buy generic clothes that are similar to what he already owns and he doesn't even notice they're new. He'll grump and grumble about changing/washing/being frogmarched to the barber, but it's for his own good and I think he feels better when he's well cared for. I've had to get over some of my own reticence about violating his autonomy, but I'm getting there. It's tough caring for older people and getting the balance right.

Love51 · 20/11/2024 19:37

I could be like this if I hadn't been socialised as a female. Honestly in my teens I wandered how to do away with fashion completely. I tried all black but that's still a message. I dress professionally for my job because I know it's expected and people judge competence from appearance, or at least incompetence!
I have a kind of matrix of rules around appearance but see it as a chore. I can see that for a man they would have a uniform of sorts for work (if not an actual uniform, clear expectations) then once that doesn't apply, just not bother. Dressing well is something I do for other people. Take away the job and the spouse and I'm not sure I'd bother doing anything but being warm.

Feelingstrange2 · 20/11/2024 19:52

My Dad has dementia and lives with us. He cannot.buy clothes now but he still understands. He had resorted to wearing two pairs of grey joggers, in rotation, so they were clean but getting threadbare.

I sat with him and showed him new joggers on M and S that look like tailored trousers - he liked them and we ordered them for delivery. They weren't cheap about £40 each but he hardly buys anything.

Then we added 3 plain t shirts that coordinate with these new trousers.

Then he needed new jumpers as he was wearing one all the time. We found the brand and design on Vinted and bought 2 more in different colours that again coordinate. These cost just a few pounds each inc postage.

That's his wardrobe now! He's happy and comfortable. We can wash stuff without him having to change the routine of what he wears. And he looks smart and feels good which matters.

I think involving him helped as did buying stuff very similar to what he was used to. I think dress becomes something the elderly are less interested in generally.

DesertKumquat · 21/11/2024 05:05

Well I was quite shocked to find he was very happy this morning with the coat and hat! How does he go from one extreme to another overnight, I don’t know.

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 21/11/2024 09:38

DesertKumquat · 21/11/2024 05:05

Well I was quite shocked to find he was very happy this morning with the coat and hat! How does he go from one extreme to another overnight, I don’t know.

Good news! You may have struck lucky with the timing of the cold snap Grin.

lizzyBennet08 · 21/11/2024 10:25

Honestly I just him the worst of my dhs clothes. He just pulls the dirst thing he sees so never notices .
I then just replace with new stuff with tags off and it doesn't seem to register with him.

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