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Lodger putting house at risk of a fire

72 replies

rockchic65 · 20/11/2024 07:29

Hi I've had a lodger for 8 months for the last 2 months he's had a habit of coming home putting his food on cooking gone upstairs fell asleep and left food to burn .I have told him never to leave food unattended stay with your food
The last straw was 3 days ago he left for work while I was still in bed I woke up a hour later my fire alarm went off I ran downstairs lodger only left my pan on boil the kitchen was full of smoke and the smell was horrendous luckily I never went out as I planned
I rang him immediately shouting at him and gave him a weeks notice.he then came home from work demanding that I had to give him months notice although he pays me weekly.im at my wits end severe anxiety and scared to go out when he's home .he's even forgot to shut my front door properly again luckily my neibour rang me and told me she
Saw my door open but shut it for me I just want to him to go .is a weeks notice acceptable or do I wait a month plz help

OP posts:
Namechangetheyarewatching · 23/11/2024 15:18

Lodgers have no rights, you can ask them to leave immediately if you wished.

Cornflakelover · 23/11/2024 15:21

Well my nephew and his partner kicked there lodger out with less than a weeks notice but it had been a long time coming
lodgers have very little rights
you could give him a week but frankly i wouldn't even want to give him that I would want him gone asap

Next time you get a lodger you can put timers on stuff so that they switch off after a set amount time although that might not work with a cooker

get a ring doorbell - a must when you have people you don’t know living in your home

make sure you get a lodgers contract from spare room
you can change stuff so that it’s clear what the contract is
so you could have 1 months notice unless - blah blah blah in which case then one weeks notice

I think my nephews contract has stuff like no use of the

driveway
alarm must be set when leaving the property and & bedroom window closed

basically you can put stuff in and it’s up to the lodger if they agree / don’t agree

Grandmotherly · 23/11/2024 15:50

A resident landlord has a right to carry out an eviction in person. So having given him reasonable notice, you can change the locks. Reasonable notice is usually 28 days. Call the police if he is Threatening or intimidating. Speak to the Citizens Advice for more help

ConstructionTime · 23/11/2024 17:16

The lodger creating a fire risk / risk of bodily harm / death / insurance invalidation shouldn't have the same rights as a regular lodger. If you're place is in danger to burn down, you shouldn't have to stand on edge awaiting the worst.

I remember previous threads about similar problems with lodgers, @rockchic65; they also contained good advice on how to avoid it in the future I think. Maybe have a search here.

Stafoya2015 · 23/11/2024 18:41

I had to get rid of a tenant who was using illegal drugs. I knew she not help the process, so i gave her 30 days. I would file a police report. Always prepare to go to court. The rental process can be hard in any country, not two things can get a tenant tossed, illegal behavior and elder abuse. He almost burned down your house- multiple times. Personally, I would find a restraining order. HOWEVER, if he is willing to leave in 30 days, it will be faster to let him go.

Lesson learned: if you have a renter, put your agreement in writing.

NewGreenDuck · 23/11/2024 19:19

@Stafoya2015 he is a lodger. He lives on the owners house and shares parts of the property with her. He has very few rights and can be asked to leave with reasonable notice. The reasonable notice is not a fixed term. A lodger who has behaved well will often be given more time to leave however a lodger who is behaving badly, such as here, can be asked to leave immediately. It's perfectly legal to do so. The resident landlord can even change the locks when the lodger is out of the property. It's not the same as having a tenancy where the tenant has far more rights.
I used to be a homeless officer and understand the differences.

LuckyPeachBee · 24/11/2024 07:42

There ARE legal ways to adhere to, but it sounds like he is grooming you into dv
Give him written notice and ask cab/ shelter for support

LaurieFairyCake · 24/11/2024 08:31

Hope he fucks off today Flowers

whatafaf · 24/11/2024 08:46

Daisymail · 23/11/2024 13:07

Please make sure you change your locks once he has gone!

I think this is a necessity. Even if he returns a key he could have made a copy. Better safe than sorry.

He has put you and your property in repeated danger. You owe him nothing but the minimum.

TinyMouseTheatre · 24/11/2024 09:07

Has he gone yet @rockchic65? What's your plan if he doesn't go?

Have you got the things that you'll need to change the locks as soon as he's left?

sidebirds · 24/11/2024 17:43

When he's gone, change the locks to any external doors!

laraitopbanana · 24/11/2024 18:31

Motomum23 · 20/11/2024 07:42

He pays weekly so a weeks notice is perfectly acceptable. Tell him he can have a month's notice on the understanding he does not have access to the kitchen (then put a lock on the door) or a weeks notice with use of the kitchen. Then after whichever period you agree on change the locks

That seems reasonable!

Have a friend around on his last day op.

Good luck 🌺

TinyMouseTheatre · 24/11/2024 18:33

Have a friend around on his last day op

Today should be his last day. I just hope the OP is ok.

Foinaven · 24/11/2024 21:38

It's what the social work/council did to my granny in law when she had dementia. They put a secondary switch above the fuse board so they could isolate the cooker.

cowandplough · 25/11/2024 11:36

As you are a resident landlord, he has no rights. Doesn't matter how he pays. You can legally pack his bags and leave them on the doorstep. He is a health and safety risk.

rockchic65 · 25/11/2024 16:21

Hi yes ive got locks ready to change.my knephews here to make sure he goes and keep things in order. Since my knephew been here its been ok
Lodger been having takaways

OP posts:
rockchic65 · 25/11/2024 16:24

Yes i agree cant deal with people having no respect to my house and not going by the rules i decided im not going to take on another lodger for a while maybe not at all.had fire people over today to check my smoke alarms working

OP posts:
TinyMouseTheatre · 25/11/2024 16:34

rockchic65 · 25/11/2024 16:21

Hi yes ive got locks ready to change.my knephews here to make sure he goes and keep things in order. Since my knephew been here its been ok
Lodger been having takaways

Are his bags packed?

Silvers11 · 25/11/2024 17:22

@rockchic65 So when is he supposed to be moving out? I thought he was supposed to leave yesterday? Did I get that wrong??

Hope he leaves without hassle and you can get the locks changed as soon as he goes.

TinyMouseTheatre · 25/11/2024 17:49

Silvers11 · 25/11/2024 17:22

@rockchic65 So when is he supposed to be moving out? I thought he was supposed to leave yesterday? Did I get that wrong??

Hope he leaves without hassle and you can get the locks changed as soon as he goes.

I thought that it was yesterday too.

AmIEnough · 29/11/2024 08:06

Make sure you change the locks once he’s gone

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