To ask why you support the farmers, regarding inheritance tax?

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Just that, really.
I'm interested to know why people support, or not, the farmers regarding the inheritance tax changes.

YABU - it's been done to death
YANBU - learning why people believe things is important.

No you don’t you have 10 years to pay tax free
and farms over £3 million aren’t broke. Should all family business not pay inheritance tax?

Anyway it’s happening so 🤷‍♀️

so what 10 years if you aren’t making any profit. So it’s best just to sell. No farms, no local food. Imported shit food like they have in America.

Most farmers work about 90 hours a week. Most people would have a good life if they worked that much.
Anyway that's beside the point. What's the alternative to a family farm? A corporate producing food. When has that ever made things better for anyone? Shareholders will reap the benefits while rural communities, food standards, animal welfare and the environment all go down the pan

They usually go to Universities like Harper Adams and become Land Agents or agronomists. A lot of farmers' kids also study law.

If you’re not making any profit it’s not a viable business anyway.

I’m from an Irish farming family and farming is generally less class based there than here.

The farming industry was severely disrupted in the 50s-70s with migration of women to other countries and urban areas (due to lack of jobs)- the male farmers obviously stayed and were a great unmarried generation. 4 of my great uncles succumbed to this, which was a national disruption to the framing demographic.

we no longer have any farm land having sold it all off with their deaths (there are reliefs for inheritance tax for agricultural land in Ireland- much like Starmer is putting in place here- but it is subject to IHT there too)

this is not an uncommon story in Ireland in the last 50 years. I’m not aware that Ireland has sank into a food security emergency, maybe I missed it though.

How many hours a week do you work?

Tell me you don’t understand farming without telling me you don’t understand farming.

Farmers should pass over ownership of farms to the Gov in return for them being able to run them without inheritance tax - I'm only half joking. Farmers and their whinging never stops - they have the worst job in the world yet they still do it.
My dad was a farmer and I knew plenty of whingers and shirkers who relied on the EU to prop up their income. I had little sympathy.

Why make their lives any harder than they currently are?

I'm surrounded by farmers, and there's not much evidence of wealth that I can see.

I like having food.

Just to clarify:

Plenty of wealth near me. I’m surrounded by farmers too.

The farming community is to Kier Starmer and Labour what the miners were to Thatcher.
Metropolitan elites demonising for their own ends.

Miners were, with the wholehearted support of the Murdoch media, painted as militant communist bastards that wanted to ruin the state and destroy happy Middle England.

The media now is complicit in attacking the farming community as being millionaire landed gentry avoiding tax at the expense of the precious NHS.

The metropolitan elite, that used to be Tory but is now Starmer and Reeves, fails to understand the importance of the mostly working class rural community to the economic, logistics, and supply elements of the country they pretend to govern.

Starmer and his party have betrayed the consensus on which they were elected, and it will come back to haunt them, as it did in the US with Biden and the Democrats.

Enjoy your fruits and vegetables, ma’am.
Chew carefully.

Love, a farmer.

Do you know where Ireland imports its grain from?? I’ll give you one guess 😂😂😂

Pretty wealthy round here, too! {Gloucestershire}.

Probably Ukraine, the ''Bread Basket'' of the World. {Or was}

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Will do

The NFU should have stepped in when the price of farm land in England was going through the roof.

Harry Metcalfe, Jeremy Clarkson and the likes bought “hobby” farms to store their own wealth (and protect it from IHT) which has backfired for the actual real farmers who deserve our support especially when grow our food and supply our milk.

I feel for the people who are multi generational and own small but not insignificant (more then £3m) farms who will be affected, especially those who’s ownership is in the hands of 70:80 year old men & not yet passed to their sons / daughters.

But it’s tricky - why should the ultra rich around the Cotswolds get to play the system at the expense of the dairy farmers in NI or Arable farms in NYorks etc?

There must be a better way. Why don’t labour start by taxing the oligarchs in London? That would potentially bring more revenue but no doubt affect the free football season tickets and access to private members clubs in the city.

Largest import - at least from 2022 - is from UK.

Yes, they’ll obviously stop importing grain when English farms aren’t family owned.

it’s funny how farmers paying inheritance tax will starve to death the inhabitants of another country as well as ours. What power these farmers hold when they don’t want pay their fair share of tax