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That LGBT Youth Scotland is a danger to children?

26 replies

WandsOut · 19/11/2024 08:19

www.sundaypost.com/fp/risk-of-psychological-damage-to-kids-from-trans-ideology-being-taught-in-classrooms/

We are getting to a point where LGBTYS has deliberately overreached to where primary schools are telling children they can be born in the wrong bodies. They need to be removed from schools and investigated NOW.

There have been high level paedophile involved with LGBTYS at senior levels.
James Rennie was the head of the largest paedophile ring in Scotland.

amp.theguardian.com/uk/2009/oct/29/courts-abuse-paedophile-ring-scotland

Another man, Andrew Easton - "Easton, 39, who was caught with dozens of video files - some containing the most serious category of child abuse images - was snared by cybercrime officers over internet chats with someone he believed to be a vulnerable 13-year-old he called ‘baby boy’. He was convicted last month, avoiding prison in favour of a Community Payback Order."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13822595/amp/The-charity-dogged-sickening-depravity-former-chief-executive-bars-sex-attack-baby-convicted-child-abuse-videos-did-LGBT-Youth-Scotland-receive-millions-funding.html

Another staff member has recently suspended after sickening accusations of grooming.

www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-government-funded-lgbt-charity-29074026.amp

Safeguarding experts have been calling for LGBTYS to be removed from schools but are being ignored

www.sundaypost.com/fp/experts-demand-suspension-of-gender-charity/

"LGBT Youth Scotland’s own report admits half of those it deals with have learning disabilities.
The charity, which receives more than £1 million a year in public funding and has input to over 250 schools across Scotland, says 65% of the youngsters they work with have “mental health issues”, 71% are sick or disabled, and 46% have “a learning disability”

AIBU - Children are not born in the wrong bodies - this is a harmful ideological belief which is actively confusing and harming vulnerable children - in which case parents must check your schools website and see if they have signed up to the LGBTYS charter. If this is the case then the school is pushing this ideology on the most vulnerable students in the classroom. Let's get this clear - this is not about gay, lesbian and bi rights - this is about the TQ pushing wrong body narratives on vulnerable, disabled and autistic children.

YABU - Children can be born in the wrong body and I have EVIDENCE that this is true (please provide the evidence)

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WandsOut · 19/11/2024 08:29

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/02/lgbt-youth-scotland-council-donations-puberty-blocker-ban/

See also the huge amounts of funding they are getting left right and centre.

LGBT Youth Scotland, just received a further £470,000 from the Scottish Government to boost their £2 million public funding.

MSP Pam Gosal has spoken out x.com/pamgosalmsp/status/1858565261659365440?s=46

Children in need have withdrawn from LGBTYS support because of "reputational risk"

Why are they still in schools?

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Thepurplepig · 19/11/2024 08:52

I’m afraid we are getting exactly what we voted for. The asylum has been taken over by the insane and you are not allowed to disagree with them.

Scotland has had the left in charge for a while now. This is what is coming Englands way.

WandsOut · 19/11/2024 09:08

They are already in England schools via Stonewall and Mermaids.

www.stonewall.org.uk/resources/schools-colleges

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RhannionKPSS · 19/11/2024 10:16

AIBU it’s a shit show up here , and we really must have a Holyrood election before 2026.

Mozartine · 19/11/2024 10:24

The SNP politicians just aren’t very bright. They promised independence - something they legally cannot deliver - and they’re not very bright voters voted for them.

We are suffering the consequences of giving unintelligent people an incredible amount of power.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 19/11/2024 10:31

YANBU. I find that organisation very scary and want them nowhere near my children or any other children.

HardyCrow · 19/11/2024 11:19

you are most definitely not being unreasonable. Schools are a nightmare for kids ( and their parents). Whatever happened to safe guarding. Children with extra vulnerabilities are either pushed into destroying their bodies or pushed out of school by bullying and gaslighting.

WandsOut · 19/11/2024 16:51

"65% of the youngsters they work with have “mental health issues”, 71% are sick or disabled, and 46% have “a learning disability"

All these vulnerable children being told they can be born in the wrong body - and then they will be special and magic and their true selves and then asked their pronouns.

Let's let that sink in.

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WandsOut · 21/11/2024 07:12

archive.is/NePcd
Children in Need chairman quits over payments to scandal-hit LGBT charity
Rosie Millard accuses BBC charity of ‘institutional failure’ in scathing letter to chief executive

Rosie Millard, 59, accused the charity of “institutional failure” in a letter, <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/NePcd/www.thetimes.com/uk/media/article/children-in-need-chairwoman-resigns-ceo-charity-paedophilia-bnpzxxlfg" rel="nofollow" target="blank">seen by The Timess, announcing she would step down after six years.
The writer and broadcaster criticised its chief executive Simon Antrobus for his response to revelations that £466,000 was awarded in grants to <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/NePcd/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/23/scottish-childrens-charity-calls-puberty-blockers-wonderful/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">LGBT Youth Scotlandd, which supports gay and transgender people aged 13 to 25.
Children in Need started giving the charity grants seven months after James Rennie, the then chief executive of LGBTYS, was convicted of child sex assaults in 2009.

This year Andrew Easton, who co-authored schools guidance for LGBTYS, was convicted of sharing indecent images of children including newborn babies.
‘That they could write this is astonishing’
The grants to LGBTYS were only suspended in May after Ms Millard said she alerted them to the 2009 case, and, following a review, funding was withdrawn three months later.
She said Mr Antrobus did not respond with the “necessary level of seriousness”, claimed he only cut the funding out of fear of negative publicity and alleged that, on hearing about the abuse, he had said it ruined his enjoyment of a Bruce Springsteen concert.
Ms Millard also alleged that another Children in Need employee had suggested a victim was “out to get” LGBTYS.
She said in the letter: “That they could write this about the reported rape of a child is astonishing.”

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TheKeatingFive · 21/11/2024 07:17

All going on in plain sight - and everyone pretending not to notice. Extraordinary

jeaux90 · 21/11/2024 07:17

YANBU absolute shitshow. I always watched school content and policy like a hawk. What happened to safeguarding?

Needanewname42 · 21/11/2024 07:20

Oh your making my blood boil.
Absolutely ridiculous that these people were allowed near kids in the first place.

SNP are a shower, absolute shower of bum holes.

Then the next thing we get kids shouldn't have mobile phones they cause anxiety in kids - really!
Yeah blame parents and phones for additional anxiety nothing to do with boys and girls in the wrong body's or the wrong changing rooms!

LoveIsLikeAFartIfYouHaveToPushItsUsuallyShit · 21/11/2024 07:21

If I remem correctly there was a guy on twitter who was very vocal about the sexual abuse he suffered under these as young vulnerable gay man. And he was not the only one. He was very believable but I cannot find a mention now

WandsOut · 21/11/2024 07:23

archive.is/ISTe9

"Rennie — also previously an SNP ­adviser — was sentenced to life in jail for sexually assaulting a three-month-old child and for conspiring to get ­access to children in order to abuse them. He often accessed a dedicated Hotmail account for the sex abuse ring at work.
Rennie, from Edinburgh, was ­ordered to serve a minimum of 13 years in jail, but that was cut to a minimum of eight and a half years on appeal.
• <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/o/ISTe9/www.thetimes.com/article/jail-term-cut-for-paedophile-ringleader-cj3jqw8mv63" rel="nofollow" target="blank">Jail term cut for paedophile ringleaderer*
The first grant, of £24,000, from Children in Need to LGBTYS, was made seven months after he was convicted.
In 2022 two men said that they were groomed at LGBTYS around the time Rennie was chief executive. In response, LGBTYS suspended a staff member and referred itself to the police."

See also

"Millard alleged that Antrobus and senior managers “did everything in their power to distract the board from its duty to sever funding” to LGBTYS during its three-month review. This included, she claimed, a “bogus issue of safeguarding”, which was eventually dismissed."

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WandsOut · 21/11/2024 07:34

www.thetimes.com/comment/the-times-view/article/the-times-view-on-a-children-in-need-grant-see-no-evil-0n3kznps0

Britain is a nation of charitable givers: in 2023, for example, the public donated £13.9 billion to ­charity, with people in some of the least affluent areas giving the most as a proportion of household income. Such giving — especially from those who can ill afford it, but are moved by the sight of fellow human beings in distress — comes with a high level of trust. That is why it is such a scandal when donations are squandered, and their potential to do good is insufficiently realised. An even more disturbing scenario, however, is when they are funnelled towards an organisation in which key individuals have caused active harm.
On the latter question, it may seem extraordinary to many people that the BBC’s Children in Need gave funding to the organisation entitled LGBT Youth Scotland (LGBTYS) at all. That is not because LGBT young people do not require support: clearly they do, since many still endure bullying, social isolation and other issues linked to their sexuality and identity. But in May 2009, just seven months before Children in Need made a £24,000 grant to LGBTYS, the charity’s former chief executive James Rennie — in post from 2003 until 2008 — was convicted of child sex offences of the most extreme kind, including regularly ­sexually abusing a baby boy whom he was trusted to babysit between the age of three months and four years: he shared videos of the abuse with other paedophiles.
The Scottish government, police and charity regulators showed remarkably little curiosity regarding­ how Rennie’s predilections may have ­affected the wider culture and ­safeguarding within the organisation, and what lessons might be learnt. Nor, it seems, did Children in Need.
In December 2022, LGBTYS referred itself to the police over historical allegations from two men. One alleged that when he was 15 and in foster care, in 2010, older charity staff had given him a fake ID and taken him to gay nightclubs where he was assaulted and raped by adult men.
The direction of policy in more recent years has also generated concern: the organisation’s “champions scheme” not only makes visits to secondary schools, but also primaries, where it heavily promotes disputed gender ideology. It has continued to campaign for the prescription of ­puberty-blocking drugs that have been restricted after the report of the distinguished paediatrician Dr Hilary Cass.
The chair of BBC Children in Need, Rosie ­Millard, says that she argued last May for funding to be withdrawn from LGBTYS due to its “ongoing ­history of child sexual abuse”. That only happened months later, after the conviction of ­Andrew ­Easton, co-author of the LGBTYS’s 2010 guidance for schools, for offences including sharing the highest category of indecent images, many ­involving young children. Ms Millard’s ­resignation letter now makes clear her fury with the alleged ­reluctance of Simon Antrobus, the chief executive of Children in Need, to take ­decisive action earlier.
It is possible that, like many organisations, the BBC was fearful of offending a powerful lobby of LGBT activists. But the dark corners of the BBC’s own history, not least the Jimmy Savile scandal, should teach it that nothing is more important than the safeguarding of vulnerable young people — particularly for a charity that so publicly vows to help and protect children in need.

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Ohthatsabitshit · 21/11/2024 07:38

If you believe that the true measure of a society is how they treat their most vulnerable then this is a pretty damning indictment isn’t it?

WandsOut · 21/11/2024 07:43

Sorry about the formatting of the links.
It's all in plain sight. And it's entrenched in schools across the curriculum.

And always, we are only aware of the iceberg. James Rennie deliberately chose a job where he would get access to vulnerable children, who else was he collaborating with there?

Why are they so keen on targeting younger and younger children with their wrong body ideological beliefs?

Why are the police in bed with them and raising money for them whilst supposedly investigating them.

The current accused rapist IS STILL WORKING THERE?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/01/17/lgbt-charity-worker-accused-facilitating-abuse-vulnerable-teen/

archive.ph/4vNcn

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WandsOut · 21/11/2024 07:50

Simon "Don't ruin my Springsteen concert" Antrobus is a "smart cookie"

www.thirdsector.co.uk/big-hire-simon-antrobus-bbc-children-need/article/1406600

(Antrobus) said he was looking forward to ensuring that the charity made the "maximum impact possible on the lives of disadvantaged children and young people across the UK".

Well LGBTYS have certainly made an impact, a sickening ideology driven lie based safeguarding nightmare.

He needs to resign. Now.

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AlisonDonut · 21/11/2024 08:01

We need to know what that money has actually been spent on.

It needs a full investigation.

WandsOut · 21/11/2024 08:32

"Mhairi Crawford, chief executive of LGBTYS, told the newspaper Millard’s resignation letter “demonstrates the ideologically driven nature of her attacks on our organisation”."

This is how she responds to concerns about child rape.
She needs to step down and they all need to be investigated.
How dare she talk about ideology when LGBTYS are telling autistic children they can be born in the wrong body??????

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WandsOut · 21/11/2024 08:38

x.com/wundt_vil/status/1859504520948220124?s=

‘Millard also alleged that another Children in Need employee had suggested that a victim was “out to get” LGBTYS.’

I’m assuming the employee means me.

I’m out to get justice for what they done to me. I will get it. I don’t think I’m asking for much tbh

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WandsOut · 21/11/2024 08:39

That last post was the words of Sam Cowie, who is one of the survivors of historical abuse who has publicly come forward.

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Redgreenred10 · 21/11/2024 08:41

A swear generation to come are going to look back on all this and think WTF. It is a huge scandal and you wonder what else is going on that we don’t know about.

i know people are going on about Labour and then accepting this. It’s seems like
vote Labour- women’s rights disappear
vote Tory- disabled people’s rights disappear
vote Reform- human right disappear
vote Lib Dem- they would fall apart in charge

Great!!!!

Annabella92 · 21/11/2024 08:43

You're not wrong OP

WandsOut · 02/12/2024 23:31

archive.ph/2024.12.02-212524/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/02/watchdog-childrens-charity-that-backs-puberty-blockers/

"A scandal-hit LGBT group that works in hundreds of schools in Scotland is being investigated by the country’s charity watchdog, it has emerged.
The <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/zB8v0/www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/12/18/charity-watchdog-investigating-transactions-used-bail-prince/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Office of the Scottish Charity Regulatorr (OSCR) said it had identified “regulatory issues” at <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/zB8v0/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/19/lgbt-charity-scotland-teachers-parents-trans-children/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LGBT Youth Scotlandd (LGBTYS) after examining “concerns about the charity” raised over the past 12 months.
It is understood OSCR has launched an inquiry that has involved holding private discussions with senior figures at the charity, which is largely funded by taxpayers’ cash.
Its response to the <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/zB8v0/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/18/nottingham-gender-clinic-trans-cass-report-tavistock-wpath/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">Cass revieww, the report into child gender services, is at the centre of the investigation.
LGBTYS has faced a series of <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/zB8v0/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/24/king-charles-old-school-gordonstoun-historic-abuse-scandal/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">historical abusee scandals and has also been accused of promoting ideological and anti-scientific concepts about sex and gender in <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/zB8v0/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/08/children-change-gender-scottish-schools-review/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Scottish schoolss.

The Telegraph has seen multiple recent complaints to OSCR regarding the charity’s public support for <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/zB8v0/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/02/lgbt-youth-scotland-council-donations-puberty-blocker-ban/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">puberty blockerss, which it is alleged contradicts its stated charitable aim of promoting education and protecting the health of young people.
In March, the charity criticised the suspension of puberty blockers at the <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/zB8v0/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/13/scottish-gender-clinic-trans-children-experts-referrals/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">Sandyford centree, saying the move would harm trans young people, despite it being based on concerns raised in the independent Cass review.
It also issued a statement from its <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/zB8v0/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/23/scottish-childrens-charity-calls-puberty-blockers-wonderful/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">Trans Rights Youth Commissionn that described treatments such as puberty blockers as “wonderful”, endorsed the “bodily autonomy” of young people and made unproven claims about supposed benefits of the drugs.
LGBTYS insisted it was not accurate to describe the regulator’s actions as an “investigation”, but acknowledged that it was in “discussion” with regulators about its “engagement with elements of the Cass Review”.
<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/zB8v0/www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/10/20/snp-guidance-public-bodies-24-genders/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">Tess Whitee, shadow equalities minister for the Scottish Tories, said: “Given the serious concerns surrounding this organisation, OSCR’s decision to launch an investigation is a welcome step.

“<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/zB8v0/www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/11/22/equality-laws-protect-pregnant-men-snp-ministers/" rel="nofollow" target="blank">SNP ministerss should finally show some common sense and pause funding for the charity until this situation is resolved.”

More in the article linked above

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