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To hate the use of 'mental health'

101 replies

BarbaraVineFan · 18/11/2024 19:35

As someone who has mental health issues in their family, this is driving me increasingly mad (pardon the pun!)

Increasingly these days you see people saying or writing 'mental health' when they mean 'mental illness' or 'mental health problems'.

'I couldn't do X because of my mental health'- kind of ok.

'I couldn't do X because I have mental health'- incorrect and increasingly common.

Why is this? Is it because people don't like using the word 'illness'? It is baffling to me!

OP posts:
Marshtit · 19/11/2024 05:46

ladyamy · 19/11/2024 02:46

Poor is an adjective

lucky for my mental health that you are smart and happy to show it then

PotatoBreadForTheWin · 19/11/2024 05:47

I agree OP, people are stupid.

Recommendation from a PP for pendants corner is spot on

Sofa1000 · 19/11/2024 05:59

Guilty. I use it ironically. Because half the world is using the phrase as a victim status claim.
e.g. When discussing an attack on the news. ‘Probably got mental health’. It’s a nonsense phrase used by people who will not admit personal responsibility for anything ever. They don’t need to because mental health. Saying ‘issues’ afterwards makes it sound negative and nothing can be negative.

tiger2691 · 19/11/2024 06:22

Mental health frailties is my go to, but it still doesn't sound quite right.

I remember, as a child in the 70s, the likes of PTSD etc (as a definition), people were referred to as:

  1. Her nerves are playing up
  2. He's having trouble with his nerves
Errors · 19/11/2024 07:47

AnneLovesGilbert · 18/11/2024 22:01

Agree with you completely.

And as if it’s still a taboo or mental illness isn’t talked about enough. Bollocks. For far too many people it’s all they bloody talk about.

Absolutely! It’s all anyone bloody talks about!

menopausalminnie1 · 19/11/2024 08:01

I got so fed up of hearing certain phrases and decided to see whether I could get through a day without hearing certain Bingo words, like mental health, Trans, non-binary etc...... and it's impossible.

The media are feeding us this shit all day long and you have to wonder why?

No wonder our young people now feel as though they need to be suffering from some sort of mental health condition, or be non-binary, or some such shite, just to fit in.

It's not trendy to be straight with a healthy mind. You're just not quirky enough. It's all grade A bollocks.

BrunetteHarpy · 19/11/2024 08:13

Donotgogentle · 18/11/2024 19:39

Yanbu.

I’m similarly confused by the American use of “overweight”. Not used as an adjective, “I am overweight” but “overweight is a risk for heart disease”.

I remember getting irrationally irritated reading fiction by the US usage of ‘tan’, eg ‘She was tan from being outdoors so much’.

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/11/2024 08:16

I agree OP, it drives me mad. "I've got mental health" - That should be good then.

Victoriawould24 · 19/11/2024 08:18

I read this article this morning and thought the same it’s the comments at the end from the man that was scammed (out of £99 he got refunded by the bank) …
'We booked a £99 stargazing break - all we got was an empty field' https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mzxe4dvw3o

A dark-haired man, wearing a colourful fleece, and a dark-haired woman, wearing a grey top, stand against an indoor brick wall

'Luxury Knayton stargazing break scam left us in farmer's field'

A sophisticated scam promising a night in a stargazing dome in North Yorkshire catches people out.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mzxe4dvw3o

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/11/2024 08:20

Likewise you might say 'I'm going to ask to cut my hours for my mental health' You don't have to have a diagnosis to protect your mental health.

That's not the usage OP is referring to though. It's people saying "I've got metal health" when they mean poor mental health/ mental health problems.

Victoriawould24 · 19/11/2024 08:21

Sorry just read the thread and it’s more about the wrong grammar so my post doesn’t really make sense 🥴 in that context.

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 19/11/2024 08:24

YANBU, it gives me the rage, especially when professionals use it! They’ve got mental health… that’s wonderful, I’m glad they’re healthy 😂.

TheLittleOldWomanWhoShrinks · 19/11/2024 08:29

'Mental health' is a fairly new concept in public discourse. People hear it being talked about in the context of difficulties with it, and regard it as indicating something diverging from a putative norm of not having difficulties with it, and use it that way. Obviously it's inaccurate language, but - as an unapologetic descriptivist - that would be my take on why it's happening. It's a little bit like the contemporary use of 'literally' to mean the exact opposite - which I believe is now listed in dictionaries.

Whatever the linguistic rights and wrongs, I wouldn't want to be sneering at someone making that disclosure, tbh.

CarrotPencil · 19/11/2024 08:29

BarbaraVineFan · 18/11/2024 19:35

As someone who has mental health issues in their family, this is driving me increasingly mad (pardon the pun!)

Increasingly these days you see people saying or writing 'mental health' when they mean 'mental illness' or 'mental health problems'.

'I couldn't do X because of my mental health'- kind of ok.

'I couldn't do X because I have mental health'- incorrect and increasingly common.

Why is this? Is it because people don't like using the word 'illness'? It is baffling to me!

Yeah I’ve often thought this too but haven’t said it.

’I have mental health’……. 😐 we all do, just like we all have physical health. Just makes it sound like you’re exaggerating your issues. Like most things in life, being specific makes communication easier and clearer.

TheLittleOldWomanWhoShrinks · 19/11/2024 08:30

Like most things in life, being specific makes communication easier and clearer

Fair enough, but 'being specific' about MH conditions is not always an easy or appropriate thing to do.

StrawberrySquash · 19/11/2024 08:33

Yes, it's annoying! I think it comes about because the missing word is implied somewhere along the line people didn't bother with it. A bit like carbon emissions. We all know the problem carbon dioxide emissions but nobody can be bothered say that.

ceecee32 · 19/11/2024 08:34

I'm so glad to read this, I was beginning to think it was just me that thought it was nonsense

FixingStuff · 19/11/2024 08:37

I just assume it means the person is also not very bright and lacking in education and good family background and that also gives me context on why they can't do "X".

OneBlackHeart · 19/11/2024 08:39

As someone with a history of mental health struggles I get what you mean BUT what offends me more is the common use of the words "mad" and "crazy" in normal conversations. It's right there in your OP. It's not a funny pun some people really are mad and have to heart poor mental health mocked daily

x2boys · 19/11/2024 08:48

People use it all the time to close dien debate when things are not going their way
I also still think there' is still very little understanding of severe and enduring mental illness, s i used to be a mental health nurse,,when people talk about their mental health issues, the vast majority are referring to anxiety and depression which can affect a lot of people to varying degrees conditions, such as schizophrenia, Bipolar ,schizo affective disorders etc are still taboo.

Turquoisesea · 19/11/2024 08:49

I saw this the other day on FB, agree it makes no sense, replace it with physical health is nothing to be ashamed of. I thought I had read it wrong.

To hate the use of 'mental health'
Turquoisesea · 19/11/2024 08:49

So it’s just the way it’s written that doesn’t make sense.

Rubytuesday77 · 19/11/2024 08:51

At last someone else who finds this extremely annoying. “I’ve got mental health” absolutely does not make sense.

Jaehee · 19/11/2024 09:04

AnneLovesGilbert · 18/11/2024 22:01

Agree with you completely.

And as if it’s still a taboo or mental illness isn’t talked about enough. Bollocks. For far too many people it’s all they bloody talk about.

Actual mental illness IS still a taboo though, and incredibly stigmatised. There's virtual silence on schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, debilitating OCD, bipolar disorder or catatonic depression.

I agree however that there are far too many people talking about 'mental health issues', 'having anxiety' and being 'a bit OCD' when what they actually mean is, 'I feel a bit crap today', 'I don't like talking to people on the phone' and 'I like to keep my space tidy'.

mnreader · 19/11/2024 09:10

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