To think with min wage going up 6.7% that

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Minimum wage is going up 6.7% next year. My pay has gone up by tiny amounts in comparison to this and is stagnating some years compared to inflation. I only earn a bit above min wage and I find my job very stressful.

Yes I know some minimum wage jobs are stressful but Ive done some that are easy too. AIBU to think that if min wage gets close to your wage a lot of people will quit just to get an easier min wage job if they can find one that is less stress

Of course I know that, it’s a travesty.

With the increase, if you’re on minimum wage working a 40 hour week it’s possible to be paying student loan back.

Pre-2012 and post-2023 loans pay back on anything about £24/£25k.

There is no difference in the price of a loaf of bread no matter what the buyer earns.

The more people earn the more tax/insurance they have to pay, so really won’t be better off in the long run!

There is a difference between Tesco value and the local artisan bakery sourdough

shelf stacker in tesco Does this job actually exist? Most supermarket staff are expected to stack shelves in addition to their main role.

When you add in that they find it difficult to organise a social life because rotas come out a week in advance if you’re lucky (try arranging your mum’s100th birthday celebration if favourite grandson doesn’t know which day he can make it), they are daily facing shoplifters, being threatened with physical violence is not unusual, they are expected to work bank holidays with no extra pay … yes, I imagine people will be flocking to take up supermarket jobs.

I’ve worked for 32 years annd currently earn £17 per hours as a Nursery nurse in a school. I did two years at college. My son is 21 and earns 12.02 working in Tesco (will be £12.21 cone April) My job is stressful and I feel like I’d be better off just going to a supermarket. Less stress

in fact, once my student loan gets deducted from my monthly pay cheque, I’ll be earning even less than them! That’s a mathematical impossibility? Student loan is repayable once you earn a particular sum, say S. You then pay back a proportion of your earnings over S. So instead of getting S+a fair bit, you now get S + a little bit. And since S is itself above full time minimum wage (because you're earning above minimum wage but haven’t yet reached S), then S+ a little bit is certainly above minimum wage.

Teaching assistants with twenty years experience are now on two pound more than sixteen year old supermarket shelf stackers. True story.

The government can raise minimum wage and expect employers to find the cash but won’t give that sort of rise to public sector nurses, council officers, TAs

That’s true. Making it obvious my degree wasn’t in maths!

Yes some people will choose lower stress jobs, and this will tend to push the pay up in higher stress ones. Sort of the point really.

Yes some people will choose lower stress jobs, and this will tend to push the pay up in higher stress ones. Sort of the point really.

Not sure about this, I deal with life and death situations almost on a daily basis, usually completely on my own, which is quite stressful as you can imagine, make the wrong decision and somebody might die or suffer life changing consequences, the pay for this is the princely sum of £34,000 gross ! That's with 20 years of experience doing the job as well !
I do think jobs where the answer to the question ' could somebody die in the next few hours, if I get this wrong' is yes, should probably be paid more than someone who never has to face that level of stress.

The problem is people being paid poorly in the first place. I earn just above MW (literally 31p above) in a pretty stressful job I hate. Looking at other jobs out there, I found one that required a degree (which I don't have even though I could do the job) for £15ph. How the hell can they justify paying someone with a degree less than £4 more per hour above MW?

They are giving lower grades a 4.5% pay rise at my organisation and only 2.5 to those on my grade and up. So things are harder and harder every year for me even though I’ve got degrees out of my ears and a difficult job with responsibility. Wage increases should be the same % across the board!

"I do think jobs where the answer to the question ' could somebody die in the next few hours, if I get this wrong' is yes, should probably be paid more than someone who never has to face that level of stress."

Well not sure this is going to happen until doctors and nurses and the like make profits !

Most high pay professions generate revenue at least 3 times their salary. NHS work is very stressful but there is a fixed amount of cash available for salaries....

This is so true the pay gap is getting smaller to the point where you have to think if you're stressful and what was classed as a decent wage is worth it..

I'm in local government, and we have all got a flat £1290 pay rise. I've calculated that to be 6.2% of my full time wage. Seems reasonable.

But NMW is the only one the govt controls, so it makes sense to start there.

They also control public sector pay, but the difference between the lower grades is ridiculously small now in a lot of departments; they don't care.

Look forward to pur council tax going up record amounts as green lighted by labour to cover it.

It's great that minimum wage is going up but it doesn't address the issues of how do employers afford it. I'm a couple bands above nmw and my wage has gone up 5k in past 3 years to allow for a difference (albeit a smaller one) my manager (who has significantly more responsibility than me) has seen her wage increase by 3k. So now she earns less that 2k more than me. It's not really worth the extra grief

In 2020, I was working as an executive administrator for a college so organising board meetings and the associated tasks around that etc . I also organised and took minutes at several types of management meetings..I had a lot of deadlines, some legal too.

I earned 12p more than the cleaner.

I don't think the 'lower grades a 4.5% pay rise and only 2.5 % to higher grades' is a good idea either.

If people feel their job is too stressful and doesn't pay enough to warrant it, and they feel they want to move to working in a supermarket because it pays about the same and is much less stress, then they should just... you know, do that?

Don't see the issue. Start applying for Tesco. Apparently much less stress and you won't even take a paycut. Your life has now improved!

Why does one need an incentive?
Surely if you have a brain, training for a job, keeping yourself apprised of new research, etc in your job, and contributing, is satisfying?