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Genuinely AIBU - waitress petting dogs then serving food without washing hands

46 replies

LilyWrites · 17/11/2024 13:26

That's about the size of it - in a cafe yesterday, which allows dogs. Waitress served a table with two dogs, then crouched down to pet and stroke them for a good five minutes while she chatted. She then came back to the counter, went behind it, and re-filled coffee machine with grounds then basically just carried on serving. No hand washing. I find this gross. AIBU?

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IDespairOfTheHumanRace · 17/11/2024 18:00

Another reason why dogs, with the exception of genuine assistance dogs, should NOT be allowed in cafes, restaurants or anywhere where food is sold, prepared or consumed by the public

Duc · 17/11/2024 18:05

Eugh that’s vile, but annoyingly not surprising as many people seem to think that dogs are hygienic, after all they’re allowed in places where food is served and people seem to think that’s absolutely fine and kick off if anyone dares to say it’s unhygienic 🙄

FloralGums · 17/11/2024 18:08

Yuck 🤮

Duc · 17/11/2024 18:14

toomuchfaff · 17/11/2024 17:44

Filling a coffee machine isn't the same as making a sandwich. Filling a coffee machine, she is handling a bag of coffee beans and pouring them into the machine. Handling a milk bottle, pouring it etc. No foodstuffs have come into contact with her hands.

Now if you'd said she was making a sandwich, holding the bread, moving foodstuffs into the bread, etc. that's a lot different.

And this is exactly why cross contamination happens.

What about when she had to open the machine with he hands and the next person touches the surface, or she only uses half the milk and half the bag of coffee so the next person that comes along will then touch the same stuff, that’s cross contamination.

She should have washed her hands full stop.

Onlyvisiting · 17/11/2024 18:18

I have dogs, love dogs and also work in food production. That is gross and against food hygiene regulations.

At home for my self I wouldn't worry much about patting dogs while I eat, I would wash hands if they licked me though qne I'd preparing food for other people I'd always was hands and not touch them.
Ditto don't touch your face, especially nose whilst handling food.

blackfushia · 17/11/2024 18:19

I reported a deli to environmental health when there was a dog behind the counter and the server was handling the dog and then handling the food. I never went back. I closed down not long after, not because of that but not enough passing trade.

Screamingabdabz · 17/11/2024 18:21

Supersimkin7 · 17/11/2024 13:31

Meh. You’ll survive.

I would expect a higher bar than just ‘survival’ in an establishment serving food.

YANBU op. It’s completely rank. If she didn’t think to wash her hands after touching an animal she probably doesn’t bother when she’s touched the bins, or manky cloths, or when she’s been to the toilet either. Minging.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 17/11/2024 18:22

Gross. I’d leave and not return. I have absolutely no tolerance for dirty hands, can’t stand parents wiping child’s nose then touching same surface as me either. I carry hand sanitiser due to overthinking these things somewhat. I have been really unwell in the past and have an underlying condition that is triggered so no touching animals, mouth, nose etc coughing. God, no.

DemonicCaveMaggot · 17/11/2024 18:23

Omitting basic hygiene like that probably means the staff aren't trained in food handling safety and hygiene. I wouldn't go back.

Wendolino · 17/11/2024 18:24

It's disgusting. You need to report this

Cantalever · 17/11/2024 18:25

myusernamewastakenbyme · 17/11/2024 14:43

Wouldnt bother me either.. I dont wash my hands after ive been stroking my partners dog or cats.

Yes, but if you were serving food to the public you would owe them basic hygiene. i cannot understand employers not insisting on decent standards.

muddyford · 17/11/2024 18:26

One of the local butchers has an employee with hair straggling out from under her hat, constantly fiddling with it. I never buy the cheese or cooked meat when she's serving. DH had to ask a bakery assistant to wash her hands after she shook out the doormat and went straight to get his loaf. Depressing.

Peanus · 17/11/2024 18:27

Why patronise any place that allows dogs in? You can avoid situations like this by voting with your feet.

funinthesun19 · 17/11/2024 18:47

The people who can’t see what’s wrong with this are definitely “those types” of dog lovers/owners.

DanielaDressen · 17/11/2024 18:49

I’m a dog owner and even I’d find this a bit grim.

DanielaDressen · 17/11/2024 18:55

I think if you eat out chances are a lot goes on behind the scenes you don’t know about.

i was sat in an upmarket cafe the other week, in the downstairs area. A waiter carrying food up the stairs tripped and food went everywhere, all on the floor. Stuff was gathered up, back to the kitchen and it all came out five mins later and take back upstairs. I don’t believe that fresh dishes were cooked in that time. They brushed the food off and stuck them on new plates, I’m convinced.

it just won the top award in the county restaurant/cafe awards. 🤮. It’s not some dirty greasy spoon.

ohtowinthelottery · 17/11/2024 19:06

I've seen it happen in pubs too. I find it grim. But then I also detest dogs sitting on seats at the table, which also seems to be acceptable in a number of food and drink establishments around these parts.
Thankfully, my local watering hole doesn't even allow dogs in the grounds, never mind in the bar.

yetanotherusername9183837 · 17/11/2024 19:14

This wouldn't bother me at all

AlmostCutMyHairToday · 17/11/2024 19:42

Ugh gross. I was at a busy restaurant that had two toilets and both had run out of soap - I notified staff and they said they were going to buy some. In the meantime servers kept using these toilets and going strait to serve people...
My DH worked in a cafe and said we're lucky we don't see what happens behind the scenes...

LilyWrites · 17/11/2024 19:55

Peanus · 17/11/2024 18:27

Why patronise any place that allows dogs in? You can avoid situations like this by voting with your feet.

Honestly, every cafe for many miles around allow dogs now. It's almost impossible to avoid! Our local Costa was my last bastion of dog-free cafe life, but they've just stuck a poster up on the door explicitly welcoming dogs!

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