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To expect guests to wash their hands on arrival?

390 replies

SillyFillyDress · 16/11/2024 12:37

Am I being unreasonable in thinking people should wash their hands when coming from outside to your house?
Would you ask kids who come to yours for a playdate to wash their hands?
Would you ask adults?

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WrongSortOfPoster · 16/11/2024 15:49

@SillyFillyDress , when I come home, the first thing I do is go to the loo and get changed. I wash my hands then.

MotherofPearl · 16/11/2024 15:51

I have trained my children to wash their hands as soon as they get home from school or activities, and I certainly wash mine when I get home from work or shopping. But I wouldn't be asking guests to.

SillyFillyDress · 16/11/2024 15:51

Ava27268 · 16/11/2024 15:47

I’ve they’ve travelled on public transport esp tube, then yes. If they’ve just driven or walked, definitely not!

It's easier to always do it than to think about where you've been and what you touched. It's a simple, no-brainer action.

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FeelinTwentySixPointTwo · 16/11/2024 15:52

The only person I know who washes their hands every time they go indoors is a friend who was very, very, senior in the Forces. He says it was something he did in his Army days and it stuck.
He never asks anyone else to do it though.

thecherryfox · 16/11/2024 15:52

Before eating - obviously. But when entering a home, no that’s weird and controlling to try and police people that way.

UltraHorse · 16/11/2024 15:52

Made me laugh can't imagine telling anyone I know to do that they would be so shocked and maybe wonder if I was ok !

Pusheen467 · 16/11/2024 15:53

That's unbelievably rude.

Dorisbonson · 16/11/2024 15:54

Its personal choice.

It's nice in swanky hotels when they give you the hot towels and little drink on arrival but can't see you offering that to guests.

Wishfives · 16/11/2024 15:54

@SillyFillyDress then tell/ ask your nanny to wash their hands no need to start a thread on Mumsnet tbh

AntiHop · 16/11/2024 15:56

I really wish I could ask everyone to do this at this time of year when stomach bugs are rife. So many people don't have wash their hands properly, or at all, after going to the toilet. You can't build up immunity to stomach bugs.

But unfortunately people would take offence, despite it actually being a reasonable request. Even if you wash your hands, other people who don't will be touching things you are, like the exit door of a public toilet.

Yes, I would ask your nanny op.

SillyFillyDress · 16/11/2024 15:57

Ontopofthesunset · 16/11/2024 13:36

I would never ask anyone else to do this (except, as others have said, small children before eating or if visibly muddy etc) but I usually wash my hands on getting home or if I travel by public transport to a restaurant. My hands usually feel a bit grubby or sticky after travelling. And quite often I need the loo when I arrive somewhere so I wash my hands then anyway. We are all exposed to numerous germs everywhere so washing my hands on getting home doesn't mean I'm living in a sterile bubble!

Yep. I'm the same. I feel more comfortable washing my hands after being out. But I don't remind adults to do it. I can ask kids if they want to wash their hands though but I won't insist if they are not my kids. Kids are kids and their hands are everywhere. Do you wash your hands when coming to someone's house?

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SillyFillyDress · 16/11/2024 16:00

WaltzingWaters · 16/11/2024 15:21

I would automatically wash my hands if I felt they needed it (for example, I’d come from petrol station, shops, public transport), or if I were visiting a house with a newborn baby. Otherwise, no, a bit OTT.

I have a newborn. And no one does it. Even health visitors and midwives. That's one of the reasons I raised this question.

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potatocakesinprogress · 16/11/2024 16:01

SillyFillyDress · 16/11/2024 16:00

I have a newborn. And no one does it. Even health visitors and midwives. That's one of the reasons I raised this question.

Oh I would if I were a midwife visiting a newborn.

But otherwise no.

PrimitivePerson · 16/11/2024 16:01

Hand sanitiser is completely unnecessary in most everyday situations. Only place I ever use it is when hiking in remote locations. It's really bad for your skin.

I currently work in a huge Royal Mail facility and handle thousands of parcels per shift. I wash my hands quite regularly there, but only because they feel manky after a while, not because I'm bothered by what I'm touching.

Mumsnet is the only place I've ever encountered so many people who are really weird about stuff other people have touched.

5475878237NC · 16/11/2024 16:02

endofthelinefinally · 16/11/2024 15:37

The first cases of SARS were traced back to lift buttons.

I was just thinking that!

SillyFillyDress · 16/11/2024 16:04

Stravaig · 16/11/2024 13:42

As part of a general gathering together before a meal, yes.

Children coming from playing outside, or indoors doing whatever messy thing. Adults coming in from farm or garden or workshop or home from a manual job or via public transport. Or even from a pristine office in a private luxury car.

For a quick visit not involving food, no, not unless there was a specific reason.

I think it has value as a wee ritual, cleansing away one part of the day and moving to another. I also think it's unwise to abandon basic hygiene practices that were once essential to maintain the health of a population just because life is currently more privileged. That can change, fast.

So I'd definitely teach children to wash their hands before food, and have casually told lots of other people's kids to do so as part of a general instruction!

I have a newborn so I'm a bit more sensitive now. Also we have plenty of visitors. And almost no one is washing their hands. Even before the meal. The most shocking part was health visitors not washing their hands before touching the baby.

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Wishfives · 16/11/2024 16:05

Maybe in real life you could just use your words ...." Wash your hands please"
Or have it written into your contract with the nanny

endofthelinefinally · 16/11/2024 16:07

I was a community nurse/midwife. Always very careful about washing my hands on arrival and when leaving someone's house. Also organised my visits to put anyone with an infection at the end of the list.

pumpkinpillow · 16/11/2024 16:08

SillyFillyDress · 16/11/2024 16:00

I have a newborn. And no one does it. Even health visitors and midwives. That's one of the reasons I raised this question.

I'm pretty sure health professionals are meant to wash their hands before handling your newborn. You are not being unreasonable there.

pumpkinpillow · 16/11/2024 16:11

I wash my hands when I feel they need washing and I assume adult visitors to my home do the same.
Kids are a bit different, but it depends what they've been doing (mucking about in mud, snotty noses etc).

My sister's family wash their hands a lot. I took my nephew out for the day. I presume he washed his hands when he went to the loo, otherwise we just got on with our day. As soon as I dropped him home my sister marched him off to wash his hands.

ichundich · 16/11/2024 16:12

SillyFillyDress · 16/11/2024 16:04

I have a newborn so I'm a bit more sensitive now. Also we have plenty of visitors. And almost no one is washing their hands. Even before the meal. The most shocking part was health visitors not washing their hands before touching the baby.

I think you're a bit PFB here. My son is older now and washes bis hands nowhere near enough, but he's actually the one in our family who never gets ill.

pumpkinpillow · 16/11/2024 16:13

I do wash my hands when I come back from being in London for the day but that's because I live in the country side and London (especially the transport) seems really grubby (black bogies!).

katepilar · 16/11/2024 16:15

Interesting, I thought that washing hands when coming home, especially after shopping or travelling on public transport was the norm. It certainly is in other countries than UK.
Thinking its very unreasonable is yet another level to me.

Daisylookslost · 16/11/2024 16:17

When I read your initial post I thought you must have a young baby. Otherwise would be a little OTT.
And you have a newborn. You are not being unreasonable at all! The best way to get people to accept the rule without resentment is to frame it in terms of: it’s because you have a young baby that will not have had all of their vaccinations yet. Your house, your kids, your rules. I’ve worked as a nanny in the past and the laxness of some parents in terms of hand washing before snacks etc! I always got the kids, and my own now, to wash hands before snacking (which often coincides with coming in from school so you can kill 2 birds with 1 stone there..) and certainly before touching a young baby in my charge. Check nanny is happy to follow your rules before hiring. It’s not like you are asking for an elaborate hygiene routine it’s logical hygiene practice.
Once baby older tho you will be ok to not have adults (even kids 😮) wash their hands on entering, as anyone you trust enough to come into your home you can likely rely on to manage their own hand hygiene at a basic level and take advantage of the facilities as needed! Parents accompanying young kids can do the same for them.

roobyred · 16/11/2024 16:21

I'm stunned at the responses to this. A few years ago we were obsessed with hand washing and sanitisers. Having just had norovirus, I don't think it's weird at all, particularly as we come into flu season.

It really pisses me off when I'm out in cafes and restaurants to see how the hygiene standards have completely slipped. Tables not cleared promptly, hardly ever wiped down. But reading these responses nobody seems bothered.