To think it's truly depressing to see how little the police do to protect women?

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Just read this account of Lucy Manning trying to get justice done and the police response is ridiculously inadequate. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgwp4059xgo
It shouldn't be the victims responsibility to get the police to do their job.

So within the existing laws, what do you want them to actually do?

The existing laws are not the problem - it was the police failing to join together information and investigate the crime. They clearly considered it to be low priority.

This man has previously had a conviction for making thousands of obscene phone - the law clearly exists to convict and punish him. The issue is that the police were not even trying to.

If she wasn't a professional crime reporter, nothing would have happened to this man and he would continue unhindered to harass women and potentially graduate to even more serious crime.

What we want is for police to be suitably resourced and motivated to deal with this sort of crime.

It’s depressing. But I don’t think there is a force in the UK that is adequately financed or resources to do what we want them to do or even what they want to do. The funding of the police is as big a joke as the NHS. And guess what, Labour are cutting their budgets even more. You can’t pour from an empty cup.

No I find it a lot more depressing how many people criticise the police and I’m a bit bored of it tbh. There’s always something they’re not doing right isn’t there.

Did you read the article?

It seems like there were issues with information sharing between police forces, police officers not being aware of certain rules, & departments not being able to find/access evidence. That's nothing to do with existing laws holding the police back.

Plus the fact that South Yorkshire police approved 93% of victim's requests under the victims' right to review. I imagine plenty of victims may not be aware of this, or may not request it. So it's probably safe to assume that there are more cases that should be reviewed and aren't.

Probably because far too many policeman are also abusers . It's truly shocking .

Well yes, there is?

If they don't want to be criticised they should do better.

I read this this morning and was impressed with her tenacity to keep the pressure on in the face of all the feet dragging reluctance to execute the law in the manner that it should and then to see the punchline that he's done this, and prosecuted for doing this, a gazillion other times.

The Libby Squire story alone shows how police forces cannot seem to join the dots on violence against women and especially how men who commit "low level" sex offences often escalate their offending with awful consequences.

Their job??

After all the cost cutting by police hating Theresa May when she was the Home Secretary which forced loads of experienced officers to take retirement, plus the starting wage being lowered (then) to £19k a year, the police is now made up of largely inexperienced PC’s, sergeants and to some degree inspectors. You have inexperienced officers who are incapable of managing staff being promoted to sergeant and the cycle continues.

There are also some people employed as officers who are totally unsuitable for the role and wouldn’t recognise risk if it walked up and smacked them in the face.

Woah, there. If you could just lower your expectations a bit so as to not scare the horses, that'd be ideal for public relations. 👍🏼

My one and only dealing with the police is as follows.
In 2000 I was an 18 year old student and looked more like 14 or 15. I'd gone to meet "friends" in the next town with a view to staying at theirs. Unfortunately, it didn't work out like that and I ended up on the last tram home which was desserted when I got on so I still felt relatively safe. I had to get home to my flat and this was the only way.
A group of lads got on and started talking to me. Naively, I spoke back and told them what had happened to me. One of them took my arm as the tram approached their stop and tried to pull me off the tram. I was terrified. I broke away and ran.
As it happened 2 police officers were in the carpark so I asked them for help. They said, "No love, you just had an argument with your boyfriend and want a lift home." Then they left despite me explaining that I had no idea where I was, I hadn't had any alcohol and had no way of phoning a taxi. I walked home using road signs. It took 2 hours.
Do I believe the police to be unhelpful and dismissive of women? Yes.