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AIBU to be sick of sexist allocation? Need a list.

37 replies

DoneWithCleaning · 14/11/2024 13:36

Well - I know I am not BU, but posting here for traffic.

He does loads around the house. He is a skilled tradesman, and enjoys cooking.
But - he has chosen to cook. He has chosen to use his skills in the house.
I get no choice. I am left with the grotty cleaning because he won't do it.

He will push a vacuum round - that is not too emasculating
but he won't use the brush attachment to do the dusting while he is at it.

He will cook, using (it feels like) every utensil and pan in the kitchen, because men cook
but he won't wipe the counters, and definitely won't clean the sink

He will do the veg patch and mow the lawn
but won't touch the flowerbeds

He will take the black bin bags out front
but won't empty the small bins in each room

He will do the tyre pressures on my car
but won't sew a button on his trousers

He will shop for food for the meals he cooks
but won't buy breakfast cereal, let alone toothpaste or laundry stuff

You get the picture.
We need a proper sit down discussion and re-assignment of duties.
Do you know of any published lists of 'all household tasks and mental load'. I had a look at the Fair Play cards, but they are a bit heavy on children's stuff (no kids at home) and mental load, and only had one card for ALL cleaning.

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unsync · 23/11/2024 12:05

Does he clean the loo after use though? I know MN is divided on the whole loo brush issue, but does he at least have good aim and leave it clean after use? If not, I wouldn't be cleaning up after him either.

You've just reminded me of yet another benefit of single life.

DoneWithCleaning · 23/11/2024 12:07

I have no mental load over 'his' jobs. I never have to remind him to take the black bin bags out, or suggest he needs to go and buy food for the dinners this week, or ask him to look after my car, or ask him to run the vacuum round the sitting room, or ask him to fix a wonky drawer.
He just does it.

But if it is stuff he thinks of as woman's work, basically anything to do with water or cleaning, yes I do have to keep an eye on the standard, if it does it at all.

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MereDintofPandiculation · 23/11/2024 12:11

sweeneytoddsrazor · 23/11/2024 11:11

Surely it's a partnership and you do the jobs you are best at. So if you can mow the lawn but he can do it better then he does it. I know plenty of people who use the hoover everyday but just give it a quick whip round and only move the furniture out once every week or 2. If you want the furniture moved every time you hoover then you do it. Yes the dishwasher would annoy me but as its tipping down here I would have happily sent him outside whilst I did the dishwasher

Neither of them likes cleaning the toilet and so it's "wife's work". He doesn't do any jobs that he doesn't like. That's a good part of what OP is upset about.

LostittoBostik · 23/11/2024 12:13

Apricotsucre · 14/11/2024 14:30

Fair Play suggests making your own cards. I did this, realised it was even more unevenly split than I thought, asked him to do some of it which he hasn’t and now I’m planning my exit route

How does this work? What is on the cards? Just tasks, or mental load?

MereDintofPandiculation · 23/11/2024 12:15

NineDaysQueen · 23/11/2024 11:16

This man appears to do more than all the men on the whole of MN since it began.
While the division of labour might in your eyes be sexist, surely it's better than nowt.
You could make a big deal of this, particularly as he is not doing the jobs he does to a high enough standard
You could divorce him if it's so grating
Is your end goal a full revision of duties?

This man does more than most men. Never mind whether it's a fair division. It's better than other men. So you should settle for that and be grateful. Is that really where we are in 2024?

LostittoBostik · 23/11/2024 12:16

Precipice · 23/11/2024 11:06

It sounds like he's not doing any task fully. Cleaning up anything you've left on the counter is part of the cooking process. Buying household items is part of shopping for groceries, not just the food. It sounds like in effect you're running after him to complete the task in a lot of these examples (not the buttons and tyre one, where one has no relation to the other).

Yes, this is an issue to bring up. If you do the cards, you need to split jobs into micro tasks. Because my DH will say he's cleaning up after a meal and will have put the dishwasher on but not wiped the table or kitchen sides after. I hate it. It's 2/3 of the job but the kitchen isn't tidy and ready to use again.

DoneWithCleaning · 23/11/2024 12:17

The Cards | Fair Play Life

I found them not specific enough about housework. They do cover your whole life together, so are good for identifying mental and emotional work.

The Cards | Fair Play Life

https://www.fairplaylife.com/the-cards

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roastiepotato · 23/11/2024 12:18

Ablondiebutagoody · 14/11/2024 14:24

The split doesn't sound too bad to me.

It's not bad if OP doesn't mind doing all the tasks that have been left. The point is (I think) that he's bagsyed all the tasks he likes doing and left her with the shit ones

MoonWoman69 · 23/11/2024 12:27

I must be one of the lucky ones then! My DH does whatever needs doing! Washing up, vaccing, emptying all the bins in the house, cleans and maintains the car, packs the shopping... If I see stuff that needs doing I'll do it obviously, but I don't feel like I'm getting rough deal, if it's not done then either of us pick it up. You've got a mouth in your face, tell him you'd like to cook every now and then?! You want him to empty the dishwasher, but he doesn't do it properly... You don't mind him cooking but he takes too long and uses to many items...
The issue is, it sounds to me, like your standards are higher than his! Nothing misogynistic about it!

roastiepotato · 23/11/2024 12:27

NineDaysQueen · 23/11/2024 11:16

This man appears to do more than all the men on the whole of MN since it began.
While the division of labour might in your eyes be sexist, surely it's better than nowt.
You could make a big deal of this, particularly as he is not doing the jobs he does to a high enough standard
You could divorce him if it's so grating
Is your end goal a full revision of duties?

Oh that's all right then... 🙄

Alpolonia · 23/11/2024 12:41

We used to have an unwritten rule that if one person cooked, the other would wash up. I got fed up with that pretty quickly - DH used to make a lot more mess than I did (I would clean as I went). Now whoever cooks is responsible for the whole job of washing up and cleaning afterwards- works a lot better.

I still clean as I go and prefer to sit down knowing it’s mostly done, while DH has to do it all after the meal - but that’s his choice.

the only exception to this is Christmas Day as he cooks so I do the washing up.

Ohnobackagain · 23/11/2024 12:44

@DoneWithCleaning list all the jobs. Identify who likes or dislikes each. Find out if any on his dislike are on your like list and vice versa - you can just swap those. Those you both dislike - conversation goes like ‘since neither of us likes these, we should take turns’. In our house, it just happens that he loves gardening and I don’t. But I love fixing stuff (eg bleeding radiators, changing fuses, minor plumbing jobs). We both cook, him more than I, but we do it if the other doesn’t feel like it. We take turns with bins. I do more bills admin, neither of us irons much 😂. But we will both do each other’s before a smart event. Pretty good division overall.

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