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To think you shouldn't be able to access your pension at 55 (soon to be 57)

175 replies

movemamamove · 13/11/2024 09:38

We keep hearing about the ever-increasing number of adults who are not in work or actively looking and the impact this has on the economy, and pension age has been increased to 66 and will be 67, so why is it that people can draw down on their pension at 55 rising to 57 in 2028? Surely this encourages people to retire earlier and step out of the workplace far earlier than they should be & it's probably only the wealthiest anyway which doesn't seem fair.

DH & I have been focusing on 55 as the first stage in our retirement. We planned to take a step back from our careers, draw down on one of our pensions to travl & hopefully live abroad for a few years. If/when we do re-enter the workplace here, it would be part time & likely far less senior roles so earning less & spending less. If I couldn't access this money until 60 or even pensionable age, we'd just carry on working until then as the only way we can fund our intended travels is drawing down from a pension fund - we invested heavily into very good workplace pensions so have minimal savings but excellent pensions.

Anyone else have a view on this or maybe an explanation why this early draw-down option hasn't been increased bar this latest 2 year extension? Or perhaps explain the reason why this is a good idea?
AIBU to think it should be extended?
YABU - leave well alone. If you can afford to take a step back & access your own money, why not?
YANBU -agree and it should be increased to 60+ to stop people retiring so early.

OP posts:
Newname85 · 13/11/2024 18:38

I think people must be allowed to retire when they like as long as they are not expecting the taxpayer to pay (benefit)

Pussycat22 · 13/11/2024 18:58

Stupid post !!!!

EmeraldRoulette · 13/11/2024 18:58

movemamamove · 13/11/2024 11:38

I think it's fair to say my argument is flawed and I stand corrected!

Glad to hear this 😊

Apricotsucre · 13/11/2024 19:04

I believe private pension draw down options sit 10 years earlier than state pension age.

I don’t plan on working until state pension age which could be likely be higher than 67 when I’m due to retire. My plan is to drop down to part time at 50 meaning I am investing outside of a pension for this. My private pension will then be then kick in at 57 to reduce my hours further

Hateam · 13/11/2024 19:29

WombatStewForTea · 13/11/2024 14:49

Also a primary teacher and you're deluded if you think teaching is a more volatile environment than a prison

I was being sarcastic.

Weald56 · 14/11/2024 18:14

Ex-Secondary teacher here; I retired just before my 57th birthday some 11 years ago, and until I received my state pension (last year) I didn't receive any public money (just my - reduced - Teachers' pension.) We have lived on a reduced income....

Yet this was the best decision I ever made, both for me and my family, and also for the unfortunate pupils I might have had to teach if I'd carried on working as I got out whilst I was still enjoying teaching (mostly) and doing a pretty good job. But I knew that was about to change, both due to changes in teaching (think the awful Gove....) and I knew I was getting fed up.

And, as a bonus, I made way for a younger person to get a job.

Mum2EmLuJa · 14/11/2024 19:01

No it definitely wouldn’t be fair to change the rules like that-it’s already grossly unfair that the age to access state pension has gone up (and will continue and likely disappear for younger generations). The sole reason I pay into and pay extra into a private pension is to retire early and spend hopefully a good amount of years enjoying my life and then looking after potentially looking after grandkids before ill health or death happens! I don’t want to work till late 60s then possibly die or be in ill health only a few years later

Drakhan · 14/11/2024 19:04

Depends if you are able to live on what you have.
I accessed mine at 55 and paid off all my debt.

Sinthie · 14/11/2024 19:05

I’m 46. I’ve worked since I was 16 and aim
to retire as soon as is possible. I feel like I’ve done my bit already and have no concern for how it affects anyone else!

Miley1967 · 14/11/2024 19:08

I will absolutely taking my NHS pension at 60 when I can without losing any of it. I worked as a Nurse for 30+ years and it ruined my mental and physical health. I would rather try and live very frugally on it than carry on working any longer.

laraitopbanana · 14/11/2024 19:08

YABU.

Actually, people say that they are “retired” only when accessing a pot to this name. What do you think wealthy people have exactly?

So no, the wealthiest are NOT the ones that will retire at 55. The ones that do that have succeeded to secure something, why on earth would you want to take it away? To force them into work for an extra 5years?

it doesn’t make sense AND you forget people get sick. Plus who will hire them? So instead of being on benefits…maybe we let them have access to the money they are entittled to and that they contributed in?? I mean, call me crazy…

Good evening 🌺

DallsBeep · 14/11/2024 19:09

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laraitopbanana · 14/11/2024 19:11

movemamamove · 13/11/2024 11:38

I think it's fair to say my argument is flawed and I stand corrected!

Oh, just saw that :)

Meadowfinch · 14/11/2024 19:19

OP, how old are you?

Have you tried to continue in a very physical job beyond 55? Are you aware of how strength reduces for many from that age onwards?

Do you understand how dangerous it can be for a prison officer or police officer to continue working if they are still on the coal face. Equally construction, farming etc?

I was diagnosed with cancer in my 50s. Treatment is brutal, and employers find ways to get rid, even if legally they aren't allowed to. Being able to access a pension fund is essential for many.

I'm pleased you are still young, fit and healthy. I suggest you don't form an opinion until you get there.

Sunnnybunny72 · 14/11/2024 19:34

I can get the vast majority of my NHS pension and lump sum at 55 in two years and I'm counting the days already. 37 years and I'm done. DH retiring too. Same age.

Meltdown247 · 14/11/2024 19:40

movemamamove · 13/11/2024 09:38

We keep hearing about the ever-increasing number of adults who are not in work or actively looking and the impact this has on the economy, and pension age has been increased to 66 and will be 67, so why is it that people can draw down on their pension at 55 rising to 57 in 2028? Surely this encourages people to retire earlier and step out of the workplace far earlier than they should be & it's probably only the wealthiest anyway which doesn't seem fair.

DH & I have been focusing on 55 as the first stage in our retirement. We planned to take a step back from our careers, draw down on one of our pensions to travl & hopefully live abroad for a few years. If/when we do re-enter the workplace here, it would be part time & likely far less senior roles so earning less & spending less. If I couldn't access this money until 60 or even pensionable age, we'd just carry on working until then as the only way we can fund our intended travels is drawing down from a pension fund - we invested heavily into very good workplace pensions so have minimal savings but excellent pensions.

Anyone else have a view on this or maybe an explanation why this early draw-down option hasn't been increased bar this latest 2 year extension? Or perhaps explain the reason why this is a good idea?
AIBU to think it should be extended?
YABU - leave well alone. If you can afford to take a step back & access your own money, why not?
YANBU -agree and it should be increased to 60+ to stop people retiring so early.

No Govt is going to change it or Civil Servant suggest this as they are all waiting to get their gold plated pensions and live a merry old live in retirement while the rest of us slog our guts out to pay for their Ponzi scheme pensions.

sabbii · 14/11/2024 19:45

Only a fraction if our population CAN afford to take early retirement, so we'll done and good luck to them. Always have been of the opinion next persons finances are their own business as long as they've paid their way and not dodged

Leedsfan247 · 14/11/2024 19:59

Just because you can access your pension at 55 doesn’t mean you have to. If you want to / need to keep on working you can.
if you have health issues why shouldn’t you use your pension while you still can?

SellWell · 14/11/2024 20:07

My husband tells people they can retire early for a living, he loves it. He is a lifestyle financial planner. His youngest clients retired at 40 (childfree by choice)
Its all about doing the things you want to do while you still have a chance to do it, so many people wait until "retirement" age and sadly in so many cases life/ ill health prevents them from enjoying their hard earned money to do the things they love.

HoppityBun · 14/11/2024 20:10

sure you can retire, but at 55 it’ll be worth peanuts. Especially if you’re going to need care in your dotage

Gummybear23 · 14/11/2024 20:13

Mind your own.
Our money our choice.

Gummybear23 · 14/11/2024 20:15

Meadowfinch · 14/11/2024 19:19

OP, how old are you?

Have you tried to continue in a very physical job beyond 55? Are you aware of how strength reduces for many from that age onwards?

Do you understand how dangerous it can be for a prison officer or police officer to continue working if they are still on the coal face. Equally construction, farming etc?

I was diagnosed with cancer in my 50s. Treatment is brutal, and employers find ways to get rid, even if legally they aren't allowed to. Being able to access a pension fund is essential for many.

I'm pleased you are still young, fit and healthy. I suggest you don't form an opinion until you get there.

💯
Mind your own OP.
Dont dictate to others.

MellersSmellers · 14/11/2024 20:20

Butterflyfern · 13/11/2024 09:42

I don't understand... You think people shouldn't be able to access their pensions in the way you yourselves are planning on doing?

I think people should be able to plan for the retirement they want, just like you are doing.

This
You are complaining about people doing exactly what you yourselves are planning on doing!
If someone can afford to retire at 55 and drawdown on their pension to bridge the gap till they get their state pension, good for them.
Plus people don't always have a choice. I was made redundant from aviation as a result of Covid at age 59. Ageism is rife. Good luck to you if you think you can go overseas and then return to the UK and find another job age 65, but in my experience you're being naive.

Lookingatthesunset · 14/11/2024 20:21

Hateam · 13/11/2024 09:56

I'm similar to you but a primary school teacher. So I work with much more volatile people than you.

Seriously??!!

SweetSixty · 14/11/2024 20:21

HoppityBun · 14/11/2024 20:10

sure you can retire, but at 55 it’ll be worth peanuts. Especially if you’re going to need care in your dotage

Depends how much you have in your pension fund and what other savings and assets you have.