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Neighbours have numbered their house…

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UprootedSunflower · 11/11/2024 09:11

Not with the post office formally, just decided it’s awkward to have a name instead of a number and started using it.

No houses here have numbers and never have. All named from before the area was built up.

It’s really really annoying as they have named themselves ‘one’ but they are set well back from the road and have a high gate/ alley to enter. Mine is the first obvious house front at the end of the road. So I get their post a lot.

It also makes delivery drivers get angry- no one else has numbers, like we should, or knock constantly to ask which end of the road number one is (most houses are set back so it’s me who gets the brunt).

Ive tried talking about it, but they are determined houses need numbers and it’s easier. I’ve tried stopping the postman, but it’s constant agency staff changing over.

So… I started simply marking anything through my door with the made up address and not our names ‘not at this address’ and popping it back in the post box. Aibu? They have got really cross!

They are the kind of people who order constant parcels and get post still

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Pipsquiggle · 11/11/2024 16:47

On what3words - it's a way to direct people to your property / business / whatever. Type in your postcode then narrow it down to a w3w square of your choice. I use the square in front of my garage as it sounds slightly fruity.

@ttcat37 A number in isolation is just as confusing as 'nouns' - it is not OP's accountability to make the '1' address official nor is it her responsibility to accept her neighbour's post / parcels. It sounds like she has taken in quite a few parcels but she's now had enough.

It sounds similar to the scenario at my old house where the previous owners wouldn't redirect their post. For a few months, I redirected their mail, however, it was just a ball ache. I asked them to redirect. They still refused to, so I returned to sender saying 'no longer at this address' -some of it looked important but that's on them

Another2Cats · 11/11/2024 16:49

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 11/11/2024 16:35

So why on earth when I click the link do I get taken to Warsaw???

Have you got a VPN set to Poland maybe?

The link provided just goes to the website. You then have to enter the three words the pp gave "master.logic.tight"

or this link should work:

https://what3words.com/master.logic.tight

///master.logic.tight

This is the what3words address for a 3 metre square location near London.

https://what3words.com/master.logic.tight

StandingSideBySide · 11/11/2024 16:51

Another2Cats · 11/11/2024 16:44

Have you tried putting just your postcode in? That should take you to the centre of the postcode and you can find your house from there.

Yes tried that
It takes me to a field opposite up a farmers lane. The nearest property to that is the farmers caravan
I’m on the other side of the road diagonally across.
So not me

Another2Cats · 11/11/2024 17:13

StandingSideBySide · 11/11/2024 16:51

Yes tried that
It takes me to a field opposite up a farmers lane. The nearest property to that is the farmers caravan
I’m on the other side of the road diagonally across.
So not me

A postcode covers a whole big area and more than one house. Where I used to live had 43 properties in one postcode in a small area. Where I live now the postcode covers an area that is almost a mile square.

If you type your postcode into google maps then it will show you the area covered by your postcode.

So when you put the postcode in to what three words it goes to the centre of your postcode. You could have quite a small area or you could have something that's a mile square.

So if you go to what3words and put in your postcode that takes you to the square that is in the middle of your postcode. You can then zoom out the map to find your house, as you say, "on the other side of the road" (you can also switch to satellite view instead of map view if you want).

Once you have found your house, you can then zoom in again. When you do this you will see lots of smaller squares. Each one of these is a different what3words.

So if you then click on one of the squares near your front door (or anywhere else you like) then in the box at the top left you will see the what3words for that particular square.

I will give you an example. Thirty years ago I used to live in the postcode WF1 5SL. If you put that into what3words it takes you to a particular square (vocab.store.fires) that is at the geographic centre of the postcode.

But I didn't live there, that's just the centre of the postcode (and an entirely different house) I used to live about 300m north of there. So I changed to satellite image and zoomed out on the map and found where I used to live.

I then zoomed in to where I used to live and could see the white squares. I clicked on the one nearest where I used to live and it came up as "drum.repair.drape".

StandingSideBySide · 11/11/2024 17:17

Another2Cats · 11/11/2024 17:13

A postcode covers a whole big area and more than one house. Where I used to live had 43 properties in one postcode in a small area. Where I live now the postcode covers an area that is almost a mile square.

If you type your postcode into google maps then it will show you the area covered by your postcode.

So when you put the postcode in to what three words it goes to the centre of your postcode. You could have quite a small area or you could have something that's a mile square.

So if you go to what3words and put in your postcode that takes you to the square that is in the middle of your postcode. You can then zoom out the map to find your house, as you say, "on the other side of the road" (you can also switch to satellite view instead of map view if you want).

Once you have found your house, you can then zoom in again. When you do this you will see lots of smaller squares. Each one of these is a different what3words.

So if you then click on one of the squares near your front door (or anywhere else you like) then in the box at the top left you will see the what3words for that particular square.

I will give you an example. Thirty years ago I used to live in the postcode WF1 5SL. If you put that into what3words it takes you to a particular square (vocab.store.fires) that is at the geographic centre of the postcode.

But I didn't live there, that's just the centre of the postcode (and an entirely different house) I used to live about 300m north of there. So I changed to satellite image and zoomed out on the map and found where I used to live.

I then zoomed in to where I used to live and could see the white squares. I clicked on the one nearest where I used to live and it came up as "drum.repair.drape".

Thankyou.
That’s an excellent explanation, wish what3words had explained it as good as you.

My main issue then is…..I haven’t actually downloaded the app 🤣🤣🤣🤣, obviously to get the ‘extra’ tech’ ie more precise squares I need to !
im Not usually this dizzy…🥴

Citrusandginger · 11/11/2024 17:19

Not just because of this thread, but if recommend downloading what three words app. Not only will it help delivery drivers, because it works off line it's also handy for finding people on your group when there is no phone signal. Not to mention being a way to direct emergency services when you are in an unfamiliar area.

You can add a widget so it shows on your Home Screen.

Another2Cats · 11/11/2024 17:19

StandingSideBySide · 11/11/2024 17:17

Thankyou.
That’s an excellent explanation, wish what3words had explained it as good as you.

My main issue then is…..I haven’t actually downloaded the app 🤣🤣🤣🤣, obviously to get the ‘extra’ tech’ ie more precise squares I need to !
im Not usually this dizzy…🥴

Edited

I'm not using an app. This is from their website, I'm on my laptop at the moment.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 11/11/2024 17:22

Another2Cats · 11/11/2024 16:49

Have you got a VPN set to Poland maybe?

The link provided just goes to the website. You then have to enter the three words the pp gave "master.logic.tight"

or this link should work:

https://what3words.com/master.logic.tight

Thank you - now I get to Buckingham Palace.

I am currently in Poland, yes - but hundreds of kilometres away from Warsaw!

StandingSideBySide · 11/11/2024 17:23

Another2Cats · 11/11/2024 17:19

I'm not using an app. This is from their website, I'm on my laptop at the moment.

🥳🥳🥳

I did it, without the app! Thanks @Another2Cats
ive got a very saucy what3words now😁

Crumpleton · 11/11/2024 17:24

ElaborateCushion · 11/11/2024 16:32

Same here. I have a pretty unusual named road (there's 99 of them across the whole country).

Developers are building a new development less than a mile from my house and they have called an entire block of flats the same as our road name! It's not built yet, but I am fully expecting us to get post for them when it does, especially as people will likely forget or ignore the second line of their address.

i.e. let's say we're "23 Deansgarden, Townname". The new flats will include "23 Deansgarden, New Road, Townname".

I have a friend this is happening to, two letter from same utilitycompanys arrive, one in their name, the other not but addressed to house...causing no end of trouble regarding utility bills, friend has even asked if a human from utility companies can come out and check for themselves but its of no interest to them to do so, they've even attached a pin on Google map and emailed location over...nah..no help.

Of course they do pay for their own household use and have records but still no one seems to get that they're two different address bar one last word...

It's just a ball ache for friend really..

For those of us old enough in a way it reminds me of the "I've got no gas" that was a saga on Ester Rantzan's That's life!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 11/11/2024 17:30

Have now just put my postcode in My Three Words and my address is not showing. So all the consecutively numbered houses show other than mine! (But I do have a real address with a real number). Hey ho.

historyrepeatz · 11/11/2024 17:31

YANBU. They are being VVU. They created the problem and need to find solutions. It's not for you to make it work for them.

Another2Cats · 11/11/2024 17:36

@MyrtlethePurpleTurtle

Try swapping to satellite view (bottom right corner). If you can find your home on google maps you should be able to find it on what3words (I think they use google maps)

Another2Cats · 11/11/2024 17:37

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 11/11/2024 17:30

Have now just put my postcode in My Three Words and my address is not showing. So all the consecutively numbered houses show other than mine! (But I do have a real address with a real number). Hey ho.

Try swapping to satellite view (bottom right corner). If you can find your home on google maps you should be able to find it on what3words (I think they use google maps)

Pistachiochiochio · 11/11/2024 17:48

RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames · 11/11/2024 10:12

How is it unreasonable? It's not her address. The neighbours know the issues they have created and are doing nothing about it, just expect OP to stop work meetings to sort their mail out for them.

Because "not at this address" is what you write when a letter arrives at number 11 for Mr Jones but there's no Mr Jones at Number 11.

OP should write "please deliver to correct address" or "delivered to wrong house" or similar before reposting them if she can't give them back to the postman.

TheHangingGardensOfBasildon · 11/11/2024 17:53

I always chuckle when I see one of the many houses named 'Rose Cottage' across the country.

It's a pretty-sounding name, but not quite so lovely if you have any experience of hospitals' internal workings!

RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames · 11/11/2024 17:54

Pistachiochiochio · 11/11/2024 17:48

Because "not at this address" is what you write when a letter arrives at number 11 for Mr Jones but there's no Mr Jones at Number 11.

OP should write "please deliver to correct address" or "delivered to wrong house" or similar before reposting them if she can't give them back to the postman.

Yes, I see your point.

OptimisticMermaid · 11/11/2024 18:21

HarrietBond · 11/11/2024 16:29

I once tried to get a package delivered to me at work, at an incredibly famous location, and the courier 'couldn't find it'. I wonder if What Three Words could have helped then?

I've never used WTW by the way and it does seem to be quite poor at recognising house names, based on my own efforts just now. I'm assuming that the emergency services use it if you supply the words as otherwise it might not be much help - I know they do use it but it's quite random!

What three words works by identifying every 3 meter square in the world using 3 words to identify that square. Every house will have a number of those squares so you can pick the most memorable 3 words to identify your house. If it doesn’t recognise your address use your gps coordinates. Obviously apartment blocks will give issues as there will be 1 apartment above another having same identifiers. But it’ll get postal and emergency service to the right location.

prh47bridge · 11/11/2024 18:28

Pistachiochiochio · 11/11/2024 17:48

Because "not at this address" is what you write when a letter arrives at number 11 for Mr Jones but there's no Mr Jones at Number 11.

OP should write "please deliver to correct address" or "delivered to wrong house" or similar before reposting them if she can't give them back to the postman.

As others have pointed out, the problem with that is that it will go into the pile to be re-delivered and Royal Mail will then deliver it to OP again.

DogInATent · 11/11/2024 18:51

Pipsquiggle · 11/11/2024 16:02

Again everyone go to www.what3words.com - it's an amazing bit of tech that EVERYONE uses including the post office, delivery companies and emergency services

master.logic.tight is my gaff and I have never had an issue with not having a number 😂

No.
W3W was potentially a good but flawed idea, then it was very badly implemented and should be avoided by anyone with any sense. And no, everyone does not use it. Many rescue services are amongst those most vocal in pointing out it's serious flaws. The commercial company behind it keep on minimising the risks, but the risks with W3W are real and have serious consequences.

(I predicted someone would suggest this crock of shite as a solution a few pages ago...)

UprootedSunflower · 11/11/2024 18:51

prh47bridge · 11/11/2024 18:28

As others have pointed out, the problem with that is that it will go into the pile to be re-delivered and Royal Mail will then deliver it to OP again.

As this keeps being suggested: when I’ve written return to sender, with any combination of words, it’s never come back. I can’t vouch for my consistency in the exact phrase I’ve used, but none were redelivered

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HarrietBond · 11/11/2024 19:01

OptimisticMermaid · 11/11/2024 18:21

What three words works by identifying every 3 meter square in the world using 3 words to identify that square. Every house will have a number of those squares so you can pick the most memorable 3 words to identify your house. If it doesn’t recognise your address use your gps coordinates. Obviously apartment blocks will give issues as there will be 1 apartment above another having same identifiers. But it’ll get postal and emergency service to the right location.

Quite a lot to ask of someone in a crisis though.

Cerealkiller4U · 11/11/2024 19:05

Pipsquiggle · 11/11/2024 16:02

Again everyone go to www.what3words.com - it's an amazing bit of tech that EVERYONE uses including the post office, delivery companies and emergency services

master.logic.tight is my gaff and I have never had an issue with not having a number 😂

We use w3w in search and rescue! As do the police.

OptimisticMermaid · 11/11/2024 19:05

HarrietBond · 11/11/2024 19:01

Quite a lot to ask of someone in a crisis though.

I am not sure what you mean? Learn the 3 words that you can remember best and that identifies your property. Use those for the postal service and for anytime you are in a crisis.
It will be the thing most used in the future I think.

OptimisticMermaid · 11/11/2024 19:07

OptimisticMermaid · 11/11/2024 19:05

I am not sure what you mean? Learn the 3 words that you can remember best and that identifies your property. Use those for the postal service and for anytime you are in a crisis.
It will be the thing most used in the future I think.

Obviously if you are out and about and have a crisis you or someone with you can look up the what 3 words for your location.

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