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Neighbours have numbered their house…

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UprootedSunflower · 11/11/2024 09:11

Not with the post office formally, just decided it’s awkward to have a name instead of a number and started using it.

No houses here have numbers and never have. All named from before the area was built up.

It’s really really annoying as they have named themselves ‘one’ but they are set well back from the road and have a high gate/ alley to enter. Mine is the first obvious house front at the end of the road. So I get their post a lot.

It also makes delivery drivers get angry- no one else has numbers, like we should, or knock constantly to ask which end of the road number one is (most houses are set back so it’s me who gets the brunt).

Ive tried talking about it, but they are determined houses need numbers and it’s easier. I’ve tried stopping the postman, but it’s constant agency staff changing over.

So… I started simply marking anything through my door with the made up address and not our names ‘not at this address’ and popping it back in the post box. Aibu? They have got really cross!

They are the kind of people who order constant parcels and get post still

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KayVess · 11/11/2024 12:29

You’re not wrong @Ilovemyshed. I’m in a small hamlet. Not a number in sight. We all have very clear name signs either on gates or by front doors.

Sansan18 · 11/11/2024 12:30

BrioNotBiro · 11/11/2024 09:24

You can call your house what you want, but the Royal Mail and the local council determine postcodes and property numbers, occupants can't just do it arbitrarily.
Contact the council and see what they say.

Totally agree with this, you can't just number your house randomly.

WelshPool · 11/11/2024 12:33

I have a name and a number but my street is very odd in that it goes 1,3,5,7, 14, 16 etc. It can be confusing.
The name was added to reflect the very identifying feature so I use for example 'windmill house, 3 anystreet' which works.

Street naming is an art though.... DH used to work with new council development and one of the roads on there was named after his boss' cat. Still makes me chuckle if ever I'm up that way now.

ttcat37 · 11/11/2024 12:35

YABU. They are the only sane ones for wanting to have a logical identification system for their street, even if they’ve not quite done it right. To return their post because they have tried to implement a logical system is ridiculously petty.
It is spectacularly pretentious to sneer over houses with numbers and is also extremely irritating when your job requires you to find a house with a name and no number. If you ever need an ambulance, police, or indeed parcels delivering by an unfamiliar delivery person, you’re massively delaying them by not having a number.

Ilovemyshed · 11/11/2024 12:37

grumpyman · 11/11/2024 10:24

You should ALL have numbers. House names are pretentious. Many years ago when I delivered newspapers as a kid, I loathed people like you. The same goes for letterboxes that are almost at floor level... be more considerate !!!

All very well when its a regular road with regular houses. In a rural hamlet with houses and cottages dotted all over and different paths and lanes to access, then no, that does not work. House names are just fine and usually link to the history of the building. For example, we have a cottage next to a farm house so have XX Farm and XX Farm Cottage. Across the way it is The Old Rectory and up from that is The Rectory and also is Church House, unsurprisingly near the church as it used to be occupied by the Sexton. There is an Old Bakery, an Old Post Office, a Smithy House, a house named after the pub it used to be, and so on. A village history right there as it has changed and developed.

There is a run of a few houses that were built by a local builder called Bird, so the houses are named after common garden birds.

StandingSideBySide · 11/11/2024 12:40

Have you checked with the local council Naming and Numbering Department
They could have officially changed the name with them.
It then gets changed on land registry and all other official documents.

StandingSideBySide · 11/11/2024 12:45

Sansan18 · 11/11/2024 12:30

Totally agree with this, you can't just number your house randomly.

@BrioNotBiro

You can name your house whatever you like and get rid of the number as well
There is a whole department at the local council that deals with it.
There are forms to fill out with them and if it affects others in the area they are written to to ask if they are ok with it. That’s only if there are other house names that are similar

So if there’s a house The Thatched cottage already existing very close by with the same postcode and you want to change your house name to The thatched house it will probably be refused as it would be too similar to an already existing one.
You could also be refused a name if you live in a historical property with a historical name,

Pudmyboy · 11/11/2024 12:48

LillianGish · 11/11/2024 10:36

Rather than writing 'Not at this address', I would put the name of their house in capital letters and cross out number 1. Alternatively I would be tempted to hang onto all their post and parcels (and sorry you were out slips) so they have to come round and collect it and then you can repeatedly make the point that this is a problem of their own making which might persuade them to put up a sign on the unmarked gate to give delivery drivers a fighting chance. If they refuse I'd just graffiti it on there myself.

Again, the OP is sorting out a problem not of her making whilst the people who should be sorting it out sit back and enjoy her putting herself out for their benefit, all because of they did not sort out changing of their address correctly. Nope, YABU

Zimunya · 11/11/2024 12:51

BillStickersWillBeProsocuted · 11/11/2024 09:26

This is proof you're doing te right thing!

All the other solutions put the onus onto you to solve it. What you're doing makes it a probelm for them to solve and until they do it will continue to cause them issues.

As @BillStickersWillBeProsocuted says, all other solutions put the onus on you to solve the problem - your current actions put the onus on them to solve the problem. Their anger demonstrates that what you are doing is working. You are definitely not being unreasonable.

Alicecatto · 11/11/2024 12:52

It is frustrating. My neighbours have no signage at all…and seven different addresses for their business, holiday lets and residence. They refuse to have any signage either, and it is very frustrating. After years of herding over packages, I just have a sign on the door saying i don’t take packages for anyone else, otherwise I would be a parcel dumping point. I also have put quite a lot of effort into letting the different delivery folks know where we are, etc, to minimise any mix ups. Most people here are very nice, and I don’t mind the occasional wrong package, but it was getting too much.

BobbyBiscuits · 11/11/2024 12:52

They've basically created a non existent address.
There is no number 1 flowerpot crescent.
So all their post will not reach them. You'd think the postman could tell them the only way to change it is through royal mail postal address file system. What a bunch of idiots.
In drop down lists the address will not appear, surely forcing them to select their house by name? Is the house named something really terrible, like Savile Cottage? 🤣

starfishmummy · 11/11/2024 12:56

CatPlanet · 11/11/2024 09:15

I’d put up a notice outside my letterbox saying this is not house No. 1, house No. 1 is up the road at blah blah. And yes, returning any post as well!

A friend if mine has had to do this. Her house is a bit weird, its a later build on a corner; she's officially "housename" on X Road, but her door is on Y Road so every thinks she's no 1 Y Road and delivers their stuff to her.

chaosmaker · 11/11/2024 12:56

@UprootedSunflower nothing worse than thick and entitled - sadly sounds as though they moved in next door.

Waffle78 · 11/11/2024 12:56

UprootedSunflower · 11/11/2024 09:11

Not with the post office formally, just decided it’s awkward to have a name instead of a number and started using it.

No houses here have numbers and never have. All named from before the area was built up.

It’s really really annoying as they have named themselves ‘one’ but they are set well back from the road and have a high gate/ alley to enter. Mine is the first obvious house front at the end of the road. So I get their post a lot.

It also makes delivery drivers get angry- no one else has numbers, like we should, or knock constantly to ask which end of the road number one is (most houses are set back so it’s me who gets the brunt).

Ive tried talking about it, but they are determined houses need numbers and it’s easier. I’ve tried stopping the postman, but it’s constant agency staff changing over.

So… I started simply marking anything through my door with the made up address and not our names ‘not at this address’ and popping it back in the post box. Aibu? They have got really cross!

They are the kind of people who order constant parcels and get post still

YANBU they could have it sent to a collection point or Amazon locker instead. My ex's dads house only had a name. He also ran a business from a converted barn next door. So he had a similar issue. It is odd having no numbers. Do the house names not shop up on Google maps?

Alicecatto · 11/11/2024 13:02

Our houses don’t have numbers either. It happens sometimes with historic properties or smaller hamlets.

Wrongsideofpennines · 11/11/2024 13:05

This is so frustrating. I think I'd be tempted to put a number 2 up outside my house (smaller and alongside the name) and then at least its clear your not number 1.

I used to do home visits in a village that didn't have street names. It was literally just numbered. I was given a clear instruction to go to the house just beyond the green gate. On entering the village I realised that it was of course in a conservation area and all of them had the obligatory green paint for their gates.

Rainbowdottie · 11/11/2024 13:05

OP what is their reasoning for giving their house a number? I'm not sure if you're on good enough terms to ask....but was it because deliveries and post weren't getting there anyway? Or was it just literally that their belief that houses need numbers? Are they new neighbours?

It all sounds a bit bizarre. I don't mind anyone having a house name as long as it clearly signed. I have a fairly large front garden (not a big house or back garden, all fur coat and no knickers) and I have my house numbers on my front post in HUGE numerals. I'm at least trying to help the cause.

Similarly when I first married I lived at
" HighTrees", 19 x road, London" it was a massive long road and whilst the house was named, the 19 did give some indication as to what end the house was.

I've already answered the thread putting my thoughts but imo you've done all you can, they're being very unreasonable imo.

ElleneAsanto · 11/11/2024 13:06

It sounds a bit like my village - we now have two houses called “The Old Post Office” 🙄with no street numbering.

misslooloo · 11/11/2024 13:06

Sorry! I pressed YABU instead of YANBU. Putting the record straight as this is bloody annoying!

Nanny0gg · 11/11/2024 13:07

Sarah557 · 11/11/2024 11:55

Yes a brand new road name definitely needs to go through the street naming and numbering process with your council!! This is really important for all sorts of reasons.

Ta. A relative has been told they need one and have been given one but there is no sign as yet for the lane the house is on

Nanny0gg · 11/11/2024 13:08

Alicecatto · 11/11/2024 12:52

It is frustrating. My neighbours have no signage at all…and seven different addresses for their business, holiday lets and residence. They refuse to have any signage either, and it is very frustrating. After years of herding over packages, I just have a sign on the door saying i don’t take packages for anyone else, otherwise I would be a parcel dumping point. I also have put quite a lot of effort into letting the different delivery folks know where we are, etc, to minimise any mix ups. Most people here are very nice, and I don’t mind the occasional wrong package, but it was getting too much.

And they run businesses? How does that work then?

thesoundofwildgeese · 11/11/2024 13:12

@grumpyman
You should ALL have numbers. House names are pretentious.

House names are not "pretentious" and being allocated numbers does not necessarily help differentiate one property from another.

We live in a village where some of the lanes and droves have no house numbers and the properties are known by name only. We live in a semi in a road which does have house numbers but these two houses were built on the site of a single property which had been the village butchers. That property was, for example, number 26.

Our house and the attached semi were numbered 26 and 26a because the next two houses in the road were already numbered 28 and 30. (The odd numbers have been allocated to properties on the other side of the road so these two houses could not be numbered 26 and 27.) When we first moved here, we often got next door's post and parcels and they got ours. We decided to give our house a name and this has helped distinguish between two houses numbered 26 and 26a.

JustWalkingTheDogs · 11/11/2024 13:19

Put the letters back in the post box with 'delivered to the incorrect house'

Send any delivery drivers away

Send the postman packing if he tries to deliver anything

Bodeganights · 11/11/2024 13:20

PuggyPuggyPuggy · 11/11/2024 10:15

It isn't OP's responsibility to pretend 1 Apple Street is an actual address.

But isn't that exactly what OP is doing by writing "not at this address"? When the letter addressed to

Mr OP Neighbour
1 Apple Street

ends up back with Royal Mail with "not at this address" written on it, isn't that short for "I have had this letter delivered to my house at 1 Apple Street, but my name is not OP Neighbour, and nobody with that name lives at this address"? Nobody would know who has sent the letter back or from which address, and it would just been seen as a straightforward "OP Neighbour has moved away".

Anyway, I used to read gas and elecricity meters, and I think house numbers should be compulsory. Absolute nightmare having to find Rose Cottage on a street with 60 houses and 3 Rose Cottages 😒

No, it can be taken either way. As in you got the right address, but those people have moved away, or you put this through the wrong letterbox entirely.

Having had a house on a street with an exact same name street the other side of town, if no postcode, it came to me and I returned to sender with not at this address. I never got them twice.

I'm currently in a road with the street behind, same name up til street or Road.
Post often ends up at 123 street when it's meant for me at 123 road and vice versa. I'm ok to walk round and hand deliver, but if I wasnt then I'd put it back in the post with not at this address, because it's TRUE.

Bodeganights · 11/11/2024 13:21

No idea why true is in all caps. Sorry

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