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To not change from a gas hob to conduction

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TangerineDr3am · 10/11/2024 18:07

Potentially having a new kitchen and currently have gas. An induction hob would be more expensive, involve the added expense of a new fuse box and potentially be trickier to use but would be cleaner. Will we regret not changing to conduction further down the line?

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Letitgoe · 10/11/2024 19:54

Another converted from gas to induction….the cleaning is what sells it to me!

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 10/11/2024 19:55

Plmnki · 10/11/2024 19:18

No induction hobs do not “plug in” FFS. They draw a big current and they need a dedicated 6mm cable direct from the consumer unit (fuse boxes are so 1954).

allow about £350 for the electricians time and materials for the induction hob connection

if your electrics aren’t up to date to allow the hob to be wired in, you need to upgrade your installation anyway. If the kitchen is being redone the extra cost is in the noise.

My DD has just fitted a plug-in induction hob as she has solar panels and is about to have a heat pump installed. Is this something you might be considering in the future?

Hoppinggreen · 10/11/2024 19:56

When we had a new kitchen last March we swapped a gas hob for induction.
Its much better from a cleaning point of view and I don't regret it BUT you can't really get the heat you need for some things.
Stir frys aren't quite as good and I was just trying to make flat breads and they didn't work as well

Createausername1970 · 10/11/2024 19:57

NeedToChangeName · 10/11/2024 18:16

Induction hob is epic. I wouldn't go back to gas

But you nay need to buy new saucepans ie stainless steel or cast iron

This.

Strangely, my 40 year old battered saucepans are fine and the large saucepan of water heats up to rapid boiling in approx 90 seconds.

The newer pans wouldn't work.

Simple way to test is with a fridge magnet. If it sticks to the underside of your pan, the pan will work on your induction hob.

Annabella92 · 10/11/2024 19:58

Hoppinggreen · 10/11/2024 19:56

When we had a new kitchen last March we swapped a gas hob for induction.
Its much better from a cleaning point of view and I don't regret it BUT you can't really get the heat you need for some things.
Stir frys aren't quite as good and I was just trying to make flat breads and they didn't work as well

That might be your hob possibly, I find my induction hobs get very hot very fast, I rarely, if ever, use max heat.

Highly recommend induction. I've used gas and electric and I'd never go back to either if I could help it.

Shintie · 10/11/2024 19:59

Le creuset is fine on it. We have one with a bridging unit which is handy for the big oval casserole dishes.

If 4 hob rings is not enough, consider getting a 4 ring one anyway and an extra plug in single ring unit. We did this - bought the portable single ring to cook on during renovations and to keep for a spare - and it turns out I didn't really need more than 4 after all as I never use it. Pleased I didn't go for the bigger hob and have more worktop space instead.

Induction is safer, much easier to clean and more flexible in where it goes - gas has to be a certain distance from an opening window. If the glass cracks you can get it replaced, it's just a part like any other. My heart is with gas and I do miss it, but gas fired boilers will be banned at some point so time to move on.

MereDintofPandiculation · 10/11/2024 20:02

Fo they crack easily and can you still not use Le Cruset on them? I use my casserole daily. Nobody told me I couldn't use Le Creuset - if been using both pans an casserole on an induction hob for about 5 years. Haven't managed to crack the hob yet.

Le Creuset themselves say "Our Enamelled Cast Iron*, Stainless Steel, and Toughened Non-Stick cookware are all suitable for induction hobs, as are our enamel-on-steel kettles."

DataPup · 10/11/2024 20:04

Our kitchen is 10 years old now and we had this choice at the time. We stuck with gas and I haven't regretted it. Every induction hob I've used has had issues. Either they don't seem to get hot enough, have fiddly buttons or make strange humming or whining noises that drive me crazy.

Induction at the time was going to be far more expensive due to the cost of the job and the amount of new cable we'd need from the fuse box.

BoobyDazzler · 10/11/2024 20:05

We adore our induction hob, so glad we changed from gas. it’s as responsive as gas but silent and so easy to clean!

MereDintofPandiculation · 10/11/2024 20:05

GiantHornets · 10/11/2024 19:02

I think those who are evangelical about induction hobs are focussing on the easy clean aspect.
Gas is better for proper cooking

4 chefs on why they prefer induction

https://chatelaine.com/food/chefs-induction-stoves/

GetrudeCoppard · 10/11/2024 20:08

We have induction and we love it. So clean, so easy.

SquashPenguin · 10/11/2024 20:09

You couldn't pay me to go back to gas now. Definitely nothing tricky about it.

GPTec1 · 10/11/2024 20:11

TangerineDr3am · 10/11/2024 18:31

Why are kitchen fitters going to con you into calling an electrician to change a fuse box? The appliances stores have all warned us we’d need a new fuse box too-the older plastic ones won’t be enough.

An older plastic cu can run 40 or 32a rcb's

How do you think kitchens ran electric cookers back when plastic cu's were the norm?

Plastic were allowed to be fitted up until 2016... Funnily enough early regs banned metal as it was thought to be an shock risk!!!

But there may be other reasons you cannot have a 32a rcbo in your existing CU.

Having said all that, love gas for cooking.

TangerineDr3am · 10/11/2024 20:16

GPTec1 · 10/11/2024 20:11

An older plastic cu can run 40 or 32a rcb's

How do you think kitchens ran electric cookers back when plastic cu's were the norm?

Plastic were allowed to be fitted up until 2016... Funnily enough early regs banned metal as it was thought to be an shock risk!!!

But there may be other reasons you cannot have a 32a rcbo in your existing CU.

Having said all that, love gas for cooking.

Edited

Our fuse box will not run a 32 amp induction hob, it wouldn’t run a pyro oven either. We wouldn’t want a plug in induction hob but a 32 amp. We’ve had several people look at our fuse box and discussed it in several shops. It would need to be replaced.

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LizzieSiddal · 10/11/2024 20:18

We’re just renovating our kitchen and am going for an induction range cooker. I’ve always had gas but know so many friends who have switched to induction and absolutely love it. Also although I loved my gas range I absolutely hated cleaning it!

TangerineDr3am · 10/11/2024 20:19

Plmnki · 10/11/2024 19:18

No induction hobs do not “plug in” FFS. They draw a big current and they need a dedicated 6mm cable direct from the consumer unit (fuse boxes are so 1954).

allow about £350 for the electricians time and materials for the induction hob connection

if your electrics aren’t up to date to allow the hob to be wired in, you need to upgrade your installation anyway. If the kitchen is being redone the extra cost is in the noise.

Dh thinks a new fuse box would be around £800, £350 sounds a lot better!

Does anybody know if you always need a 3cm work top,as that would be another expense.

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AngryBookworm · 10/11/2024 20:19

My induction hob is brilliant - just a bit vocal (likes to beep if it's wet or something hot isn't where it should be). It gets hot VERY fast if you use the right setting and just needed a bit of getting used to. Really easy cleaning and feels more future proof though planned obsolescence means the current hob will probably break before gas becomes outdated. We happened to have a new fuse box as we had to rewire the house before putting it in anyway as the electrics were so old. You might want to consider how old your current fuse box and wiring is and whether you might want to upgrade anyway - would you ever add an EV charger, for example? If so, updating might be in order.

Comefromaway · 10/11/2024 20:19

I’ve tried cooking on an induction hob, hate it. When we had a new kitchen I insisted on gas.

for one thing you can’t take the pan off the hob and hold it over the heat for a stir fry or scrambled eggs etc.

DeltaAlphaDelta79 · 10/11/2024 20:21

We stayed in a self catering a while that had an induction hob, I absolutely hated it.

We are in the process of moving and one of the non-negotiables was that there had to be a gas hob, or at least the necessary pipework to fit one.

SleepingisanArt · 10/11/2024 20:51

OP my DC just had a new 'consumer unit' (aka fuse board) so that they could have an induction hob, pyrolytic oven and a power shower pump - including vat it was £500 (SE).

We got our induction hob 18 years ago. It has a few scratches on it but it's never cracked or broken. It's 90cm wide and it's highest setting is properly hot for stir frying and can be set low enough to slow cook. Love it and would never go back to gas.

@theeyeofdoe - many commercial kitchens are going over to induction as it's cooler for the staff to work (alsocheaper to run and easier to clean).

DataPup · 10/11/2024 21:03

OP my DC just had a new 'consumer unit' (aka fuse board) so that they could have an induction hob, pyrolytic oven and a power shower pump - including vat it was £500 (SE).

The cost of having to upgrade electrics can vary quite widely depending on the amount of cable required and how complicated/straightforward it is to run the cable.

GPTec1 · 10/11/2024 21:08

TangerineDr3am · 10/11/2024 20:16

Our fuse box will not run a 32 amp induction hob, it wouldn’t run a pyro oven either. We wouldn’t want a plug in induction hob but a 32 amp. We’ve had several people look at our fuse box and discussed it in several shops. It would need to be replaced.

Must be v old, mine is around 25yo and has a 32a rcb in it for cooker but couldn't run another, so an auxillary CU was fitted to allow 40a to new Shower.

Good luck with whatever you decide on but upgrading CU may well be a good idea even if you decide on staying with gas.

£350 would be mates rates around here!!!

Shintie · 10/11/2024 21:11

TangerineDr3am · 10/11/2024 20:19

Dh thinks a new fuse box would be around £800, £350 sounds a lot better!

Does anybody know if you always need a 3cm work top,as that would be another expense.

Ours is 28mm and we have a functional drawer directly underneath.

I think having experienced one induction hob you didn't like is not necessarily a reason to rule them all out, especially if it's in a holiday let or rental. A £500 hob could be a completely different beast to a decade old and/or entry level one. The plug in single hob we have had very little in common with our AEG 4 ring with bells and whistles. They both boil a pan of water quicker than the kettle does.

TwinklyAmberOrca · 10/11/2024 21:11

Swapped from gas to induction 2 years ago and it's so much better.

It heats insanely fast, is so much more energy efficient.

The only down side is cooking pancakes as it beeps at me when I take the pan off the hob to flip them!

Iloveanicegarden · 10/11/2024 21:21

TangerineDr3am · 10/11/2024 18:23

They take more power and all the kitchen fitter quotes we’ve had say we’d need a new fuse box for induction. We have an old plastic one- talking an extra £800. Gulp!

Look around and you will find Induction hobs that you plug into an ordinary socket. In fact that's why we chose the one we did(Neff), because we HAD to change the gas one due to worktop it was in had been lowered for a the previous owner and we wanted it regular height. The the extractor above it was too low and couldn't be removed, so it was induction or nothing. They might use more energy but since they only heat up the pan there is no wasted heat up the sides of the pan, and they turn on and off instantly.

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