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Why would you take you family on holiday without travel insurance?!

272 replies

IsitaHatOrACat · 10/11/2024 17:16

AIBU to think that this is part of the cost of the holiday.

Yet again there's a family raising funds to pay for medical care abroad. This time for a 15 year old old. This must be a terribly distressing situation to be in however why take the risk?

OP posts:
WhichSock · 10/11/2024 18:27

Because why bother, when everyone else can pick up the bill?

It’s mind-boggling how stupid some people are.

coffeesaveslives · 10/11/2024 18:28

Jessie1259 · 10/11/2024 18:21

We don't get it for Europe as apart from repatriation anything that can't wait till you get home is covered by GHIC card. We don't ski so that's not an issue. In the last twenty years we'd have spent thousands on insurance we didn't need so no regrets there.

If we go long haul then we do get travel insurance, my experience of any insurance though is that they'll wriggle out of paying out any way they can so it really doesn't make me sleep better.

How would you pay for repatriation though? Confused

NanFlanders · 10/11/2024 18:28

Well my DD is now doing well, but was hospitalised with anorexia in the past. My DH has type 2 diabetes, again, well controlled. We were quoted £8K for health insurance. DS and I had health insurance, but we went for a package that excluded anorexia and diabetes related complaints. This was still £700.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 10/11/2024 18:28

If you can’t afford the holiday insurance then you can’t afford the holiday imo

VickyEadieofThigh · 10/11/2024 18:31

TickingAlongNicely · 10/11/2024 17:25

Because they think that nothing will ever happen.. as you "never" need it.

Until you do.

Indeed. I've seen people justify it with "We're young and very fit and healthy". Yeah - until you're suddenly NOT, or have an accident.

AllThePotatoesAreSingingJingleBells · 10/11/2024 18:32

VickyEadieofThigh · 10/11/2024 18:31

Indeed. I've seen people justify it with "We're young and very fit and healthy". Yeah - until you're suddenly NOT, or have an accident.

Yep. Young, fit and healthy me with a burst appendix and peritonitis. Luckily insured.

VickyEadieofThigh · 10/11/2024 18:35

JetskiSkyJumper · 10/11/2024 18:01

I have no idea. I even get it for uk breaks just in case something happens.

We had to cancel a cottage holiday in Scotland last year after my partner fell and injured her back, rendering her unable to travel. Our travel insurance paid us back almost all of the cost.

Invisimamma · 10/11/2024 18:36

NanFlanders · 10/11/2024 18:28

Well my DD is now doing well, but was hospitalised with anorexia in the past. My DH has type 2 diabetes, again, well controlled. We were quoted £8K for health insurance. DS and I had health insurance, but we went for a package that excluded anorexia and diabetes related complaints. This was still £700.

Do you mean travel insurance? health insurance is different. There are specialist brokers for travel insurance with health conditions.

My dad has type 1 diabetes and a number of other health conditions, his insurance was nowhere near those prices, more like £300 for a multi trip policy.

StamppotAndGravy · 10/11/2024 18:37

Jessie1259 · 10/11/2024 18:21

We don't get it for Europe as apart from repatriation anything that can't wait till you get home is covered by GHIC card. We don't ski so that's not an issue. In the last twenty years we'd have spent thousands on insurance we didn't need so no regrets there.

If we go long haul then we do get travel insurance, my experience of any insurance though is that they'll wriggle out of paying out any way they can so it really doesn't make me sleep better.

You do know that most countries in the EU don't have free healthcare and somewhere like France they'll check your credit card before the ambulance takes you?! You'll receive the same care as locals, but the locals have mandatory insurance that covers it. You'll get a bill. Even in the UK visitors have to pay for NHS treatment.

5128gap · 10/11/2024 18:38

To be fair, it's very easy to overlook. Years ago when you went to a travel agent they'd sell it to you at the time. Now if you book on line there are no prompts. I can understand why people who don't travel often or know much about it don't give it a thought.

AskingForAFriend12 · 10/11/2024 18:40

TerrysNeapolitan · 10/11/2024 17:57

I CANNOT emphasise enough the importance of insurance. My partner had to most freakish accident while in Greece and he ended up having emergency surgery and being flown home via air ambulance back to the UK. This all would have cost us around £45,000 had we not been fully insured. Please people do not take the risk!

But there is an agreement with the EU countries. That's why we have the little blue cards.

Nerdles · 10/11/2024 18:42

Do we know for fact that it is a case of no insurance rather than the insurance refusing to pay out?

LadyAsnowt · 10/11/2024 18:42

A relative of mine died suddenly whilst on holiday in a European country. She was in her late forties with no known medical conditions. She had insurance - without it, the whole situation would have been even worse for her husband than it already was.

Gingernaut · 10/11/2024 18:42

AskingForAFriend12 · 10/11/2024 18:40

But there is an agreement with the EU countries. That's why we have the little blue cards.

That's for health insurance, but repatriation, now we're no longer a part of the EU is an expensive business

https://overseas-healthcare.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/get-healthcare-cover-travelling-abroad/start#:~:text=A%20UK%20EHIC%20or%20UK,UK%20EHIC%20or%20UK%20GHIC.

Get healthcare cover for travelling abroad - NHSBSA

https://overseas-healthcare.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/get-healthcare-cover-travelling-abroad/start#:~:text=A%20UK%20EHIC%20or%20UK,UK%20EHIC%20or%20UK%20GHIC.

Nothungrycat · 10/11/2024 18:43

I went to Turkey some time ago and managed to break my ankle on the first day. Without travel insurance the private hospital wouldn't have admitted me - or rather my credit card would have taken a significant hit. The insurance also meant I got assistance to get to the airport/through the airport, which was really helpful as someone travelling by myself. Since then I've always made sure I have a year-round policy to cover all my trips. This year I wanted to go on a big holiday outside of Europe and the first thing I did before I booked was upgrade my policy to cover the world - so that if I had a problem between booking and travelling I'd be covered. I have a few medical issues (mainly hypertension) and that does raise the cost, but it's still nothing like the cost of being uninsured.

StamppotAndGravy · 10/11/2024 18:43

AskingForAFriend12 · 10/11/2024 18:40

But there is an agreement with the EU countries. That's why we have the little blue cards.

No, really not! The arrangement is that you'll get the same treatment as the locals at the same price. The locals still have to pay too.

AskingForAFriend12 · 10/11/2024 18:43

StamppotAndGravy · 10/11/2024 18:37

You do know that most countries in the EU don't have free healthcare and somewhere like France they'll check your credit card before the ambulance takes you?! You'll receive the same care as locals, but the locals have mandatory insurance that covers it. You'll get a bill. Even in the UK visitors have to pay for NHS treatment.

That's why you get the little blue card. Insurance card, EHIC. This will show them you have an insurance.
And for most EU countries, the healthcare is free for the end user, its just a different funding model. Not like in USA.

Nerdles · 10/11/2024 18:43

AskingForAFriend12 · 10/11/2024 18:40

But there is an agreement with the EU countries. That's why we have the little blue cards.

That would not include things like repatriation such as the poster’s dh

AskingForAFriend12 · 10/11/2024 18:45

StamppotAndGravy · 10/11/2024 18:43

No, really not! The arrangement is that you'll get the same treatment as the locals at the same price. The locals still have to pay too.

Not for an emergency surgery! Greece is a very socialist leaning country, no way locals have to pay for an emergency surgery.

Its mainly a prescription costs etc in the EU.

LoopyGremlin · 10/11/2024 18:45

@AllThePotatoesAreSingingJingleBells
Yes, we go through all our existing conditions and add any new ones each April when we get a letter advising us to do so. So far we have never had to pay anything additional to what we pay monthly,

AskingForAFriend12 · 10/11/2024 18:46

Gingernaut · 10/11/2024 18:42

That's for health insurance, but repatriation, now we're no longer a part of the EU is an expensive business

https://overseas-healthcare.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/get-healthcare-cover-travelling-abroad/start#:~:text=A%20UK%20EHIC%20or%20UK,UK%20EHIC%20or%20UK%20GHIC.

Yes, that makes sense. So you just have to stay for the treatment. Not ideal but its not like you are left to die.

LIZS · 10/11/2024 18:47

Jessie1259 · 10/11/2024 18:21

We don't get it for Europe as apart from repatriation anything that can't wait till you get home is covered by GHIC card. We don't ski so that's not an issue. In the last twenty years we'd have spent thousands on insurance we didn't need so no regrets there.

If we go long haul then we do get travel insurance, my experience of any insurance though is that they'll wriggle out of paying out any way they can so it really doesn't make me sleep better.

You aren't! GHIC only covers immediate treatment as a local could access, and in many countries locals pay for medication and follow up treatment including every xray, bandage, blood test...

theeyeofdoe · 10/11/2024 18:51

The company who flew the bloke into her is liable.
they should be following that route.

DH is very anti-insurance as we have funds to pay if there is a problem (but I always get insurance when we go away alone!)

MandyFriend · 10/11/2024 18:52

Sometimes people think they have holiday insurance but the insurance companies can be very sneaky at finding loopholes to get out of paying.

coffeesaveslives · 10/11/2024 18:53

Yes, that makes sense. So you just have to stay for the treatment. Not ideal but it's not like you are left to die.

And what if treatment is months or years? How are you going to pay for that?