Private Schools- hear me out before you judge!

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I'm a state school teacher in Scotland. Class sizes are - 25 for P1, 30 for P2-3 and 33 for P4-7. I currently have a class size of 25, most classes in the school are 25-28. Relatively small town- 2 primaries, 1 independent and 1 secondary. The next nearest independent is 45 mins away.

The local independent school is closing due to VAT, the pupils are largely coming here. This is pushing all our class sizes up. No extra funding or staff, obviously. My issue with independent schools closing is that is directly impacting the state sector and no extra funding, resources or infrastructure is in place to support it.

Yes, our classes are still within legal limits but it will always be the most disadvantaged children/those with greater need of support who are impacted most by larger class sizes as there is just less time to spend with them.

I really feel this has been a poorly thought through and knee jerk policy. Surely you invest and create capacity in existing resources before increasing pupil numbers?

Does it? What do you think parent voice can achieve? Believe me, having smaller class sizes is the number one way to improve your child's education. There's 0 chance of that happening now!!

Why don't you Google it.

Oooh coy for a change? Suits you.

This particular Labour-liaison is not examined in the left leaning news outlets …. Which tells me that it is 100% true.

VAT on school fees and the removal of ridiculous charity status would I think affect all of us, it would be a fairer set up and I think it’s time adults in the UK started living how we should not how we have. It’s an odd observation because it was presented in a way that sounded like a gleeful gotcha.

I have attended, been a parent in, (and indeed observed in) many different types of educational establishment and probably have a good understanding of many of the concerns expressed over this issue. I think it was a good decision and all our children will be better for it. I know many private school parents are not happy but I suspect for the majority they are going to be pleasantly surprised.

It isn't Kilgraston because the OP is talking about a primary school. Which may or may not exist in reality.

No just bored of you and your provocations. Not going to engage any further. Get your kicks somewhere else.
Anyone who purposely targets someone to provoke and attack isn't worth spending energy on.

It’s not as if Starmer wasn’t warned.

The result is pressure on state schools in some areas, and private schools become more elite. It’s lose lose.

Do you mean because we care so much for the children in our classes that we are on our knees trying to meet all the needs. That we are out campaigning against cuts and buying resources with our own money. Do you mean because I already work hours over what I'm paid marking books, planning classes and completing paperwork. That on top of all that, the concern of how we're going to do that each year with 33 children in our cos and the concern we have for how it just has to reduce the quality of learning that we all care so much about.

It's very simple. Teachers care! Teachers know that 25 in a class is better than 33. Not because it's less work but because there's more time to give each child. Teachers are not resentful of children, teachers are resentful of those who don't see the bigger picture. Those who cheer on an education system already on its knees and now, because of this, ready to collapse.

You mean The Telegraph took Guido’s post and regurgitated it?

Belittling you? Give over.

I said you shouldn’t rely on getting your info from a political blogger who makes a living from clickbait.

I really hope that you are right. I don’t mean that in a sarcastic way either.
One thing is for sure, we’re going to find out one way or another because no matter what we say, post, do or think, it’s happening.

In Scotland the name feeder school is given to state schools that see a large proportion of their children move to private. We see approx 3 a class leave at p4, 5 a class at p5 up to about 25% end of p7. Last year we saw only 3 children go private at the end of p7 and none left from p6!

Maybe Cedars school in Greenock - an all through Indi school.
Greenock is not that big a town
Although see that was one that announced closure after Labours tax announcement and before they came in to power

The Telegraph is more reputable and relevant would you not agree? I’m sure they wouldn’t do such as thing as simply regurgitate. However, when facts are facts, they read the same.

Didn’t a school close near Perth recently?

Tbh, the local authority would pay for transport to take your son to and from a mld school. This could even be a daily taxi.

The thing about his IQ levels is that he is firmly in the mld camp. Usually they take children with a score of between 50 and 70. My daughter's is 56.

My experience of working with parents on their child's ehc was that so many fathers in particular really struggled to accept what was happening. Some families moved home eg to Pakistan, India rather than have a diagnosis or a place in a unit or specialist school.

But the children themselves usually love it. They have friends. They can access the curriculum fully. They get to do trips suitable for them.

Yes it's mostly life skills. But kids my daughter went to mld school with have jobs - in Costa, in our local cinema, in nurseries, garden centres, hospitals etc.

It might be worth exploring. I don't know where you might move to but the ehc system is brilliant for yp from 16 to 25. Have a look at your LA Web site under Loxal Offer and see what's available. If you need some support, try your local sendiass team x

Trolling!

Over 60% voted for a left/centre/progressive party.

Less than 40% voted for rightwing/Conservative/Reform.

Nope. Because the OP says that 84 children are transferring to her school alone, and Cedars was closing was because they had fewer pupils than that in total.

Yes there is

In London, recently a private school announced closure to parents and it was not “in the news”
Not at all surprised that you cannot fact check this … who would be calling BBC, or Guardian and get any interest in this as a “news”

@Jennaveeve I have asked MNHQ to see if they can verify this with OP. It’s understandable if they don’t want to name the school.