To wonder if Karma actually happens

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Just this really. Has anyone seen karma happen or is it just a way to feel better. To talk oneself out of a funk? Talking with a friend about this following her experience where someone had lied and gaslit for their own ends. They sound like they did quite well leaving my friend out of pocket and out of a job. I

Karma works in subtle ways.

The first time you tell a lie you also realise that if you lie then everyone else can too. You never fully trust anyone again. Likewise with the cheater. The realisation that if they can cheat their partner can too. Which is probably why cheaters are more inclined to be jealous or overbearing by watching your every move, and of course there's the guilt.
Or the narc who is frightened to be exposed to the public or friends and family. Or the bully which is why they demand secrecy. The fear of being exposed and the possibility of being shunned.
Karma exists on a psychological level, working underneath the surface and disturbing the mental peace.
People act like they don't care or it doesn't affect them. But in the quieter moments, when they are alone it'll be there.
For all the act of bravado, the being on stage 24/7 portraying the created persona which is hard work in itself. Karma is there behind the scenes. Waiting for the solitary moment when it can have its poke at the conscience.

You know when brides used to get given horseshoes to hold on their wedding day? I remember Clintons cards selling black cat ones for brides, they had a felt/velour feel to them. I love black cats...

I don’t believe in karma. But then sometimes I do wonder if I did something really bad in the past to be punished the way I have in this life. But then I remember, life is just isn’t fair really and everyone struggles. Some more than others but yea.

IMO, being a grandparent is karma! Hearing DC complaining for instance, how the DGC get up at dawn…..

There was a girl in year 7 who told me that my mum should kill herself because I was such a horrid daughter, 2 weeks later her mum hung herself. If that's not karma I don't vitamin what is.

I believe in Karma, but it’s not Quid Pro Quo, it’s more subtle than that.

For example, when driving I always give way, let others out at junctions. The 15 seconds that takes is of no consequence to me. I usually get a wave, nod, flash (light) in return. I regularly have to go through a set of 6 traffic lights. If you hit the first one on Green you normally get a green wave through them all. I get the green wave about 80% of the time. I like to think that’s traffic Karma.

No, I’ve known some truly awful people who have deserved something awful happening to them but it hasn’t. I don’t believe in karma but I do believe in just trying to be kind and generally a nice person, which is more likely to bring happiness into your life than being an arsehole. Everyone has good and bad stuff happen which it would be easy to attribute to karma, but IMO it’s just how life is.

This. I've seen it happen repeatedly.

Karma is absolutely a thing! 🙌

Good God, that's not karma at all.

That poor child may have heard her own mum telling her things like that so automatically insulted you in a similar fashion.

Much the same way the sexually abused kids often display sexual behaviour around others.

There are some 'interesting' examples above though. People saying that Donald Trump's family hate him and that's karma.

Just because he's unpopular in the UK, the fact is that millions of Americans obviously love him and we have no reason to believe that anyone in his family hates him apart from silly media speculation about Melania looking impassive or sullen.

I don't believe in Karma but I do believe r you reap what you sow but even that doesn't always work.

That year 7 girl had DEFINITELY been told by her mum that she was such a bad girl her mum wanted to kill herself. And then the disturbed woman did it, leaving her daughter with the horror and the guilt.😪

I can't with the Internet today. Saddest fucking thing I have read on here.

That's absolutely awful. Not karma either - if that girl wasn't repeating what had been said to her as @Swivelhead says, it'll be a cold day in hell.

She might have been unpleasant at times, maybe really unpleasant, but her home situation must have been awful and she will never get over her mother's suicide like that.

I also believe this.

I dont believe in karma in a spiritual sense but I absolutely believe actions have consequences and I can think of multiple examples of that in people I know. People who treated others like crap and ended up miserable and alone as a result.

Also, being rich in itself isnt an indicator that someone is happy. There have been many very rich people that have taken their own lives or are addicted to drugs etc. I dont see being rich as an indicator that "karma" doesnt exist.

I don’t believe in karma but I do believe that having a solid moral compass and behaving with integrity is key to self-esteem. There’s comfort in knowing that you did the right thing and maintained control of your own behaviour.

In my opinion, those who don’t respect others generally don’t respect themselves deep down.

i think there's a more "consequences" type element to it. if a shitty person has something shitty happen to them people are likely to say "good, they deserved it", whereas a kind, nice person is more likely to have people support / help / understand / excuse / mitigate and therefore lessen the impact of the shitty thing

Sadly I agree with this. My old boss made his millions by screwing over other people and he's about to retire with his fortune. Sometimes people might get their comeuppance by pissing off the wrong person but a lot of the time they just get away with it.

Like a pp, I think it's more you reap what you sow.
My dad was a horrible person. Alcoholic, was married 3 times, cheated on them all, left children behind he didn't bother with etc. Ended his days living in a caravan alone, died from an alcohol related illness. That's not karma, it was just a natural consequence of his actions.

If you're a bad person who doesn't care about anyone else. Chances are you will trip yourself up some day. Doesn't always happen though. I tend to think of it more that mean people are unhappy in some way. Otherwise they wouldn't act that way. Genuinely happy people do not see any need to trample all over others. I'm glad I'm not so unhappy that hurting others brings me pleasure.

No such thing as Karma. Or ghosts, etc., etc.

Karma sort of exists as a by-product of the laws of physics. All material in the universe started out as equal in the big bang and all material in the universe will end up equal because eventually all matter will be spread equally throughout it. Eventually, everything will balance out.

Some people suffer a hell of a lot more than others along the way though and Karma exists as a concept of morality, not materiality.