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Parking Fine Madness

71 replies

ModernMadnessEra · 07/11/2024 11:37

Park in a parent & child space
Left children in car (under 12)
Enter shop to do shopping
Received parking fine

Absolute, ridiculous fine
I am outraged !

Do you agree ?

Secondly, evidently there is also a new rule that children have to be under 12

When children are classed as children under 18

www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1972395/supermarket-parking-age-limit-parent-child-fines

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KimberleyClark · 07/11/2024 12:31

imjusthereforAIBU · 07/11/2024 12:19

I feel like parent and child car parking spaces would be misused a lot less if they weren't directly outside the shop.

IMO they should put them at the back of the car park but gave parents enough space to actually get kids/buggies safely out of the car - then walk on safe paths to the door.

If you need to be close due to mobility etc, then you should be entitled to use a disabled bay.

I agree. They don’t need to be outside the shop if a safe walking route to the shop is provided.

ModernMadnessEra · 07/11/2024 12:40

FyI

This was not myself in the news story

I shared the story, because this is a huge fine for a parent, who parked in a parent & child parking space

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IKEAJesus · 07/11/2024 12:45

I have no sympathy for her. She should have checked the rules - which are, honestly, fairly standard. P&C spaces are for people taking young children into the shop with them.

KrisAkabusi · 07/11/2024 12:51

ModernMadnessEra · 07/11/2024 12:40

FyI

This was not myself in the news story

I shared the story, because this is a huge fine for a parent, who parked in a parent & child parking space

Multiple times. It's not a one-off. And when she got the second fine she ignored it. It could have been a lot less.

Also, the article is very careful to only show a close up of a parking sign that isn't the one in a parent and child sign. But if you look at the top photo there's a big yellow sign at eye-level in front of every parent and child parking space that I bet very clearly explains the rule.

Christmaspiggyjack · 07/11/2024 12:55

I thought parent and child spaces were for children to be able to access the shop safely - for example nearby a path that leads to the shop and next to the shop so they’re not dodging in and out of moving cars throughout the car park. Or in my case, so that the car next to us isn’t reduced to scrap as my kids flamboyantly throw open the car door.

So the point of them being left in the car is a bit pointless?

Comefromaway · 07/11/2024 13:01

When you park in a private car park you enter into a contract. As long as the rules are clearly displayed then the company is entitled to charge whatever they have stated.

Comefromaway · 07/11/2024 13:05

Also my kids are now aged 20 & 23 and back when they were little most supermarket car parks stated that parent/child spaces were for those with children under the age of 12 so it is nothing "new".

SereneFish · 07/11/2024 13:05

If you need to be close due to mobility etc, then you should be entitled to use a disabled bay.

You should, but a huge number of us aren't.

Comefromaway · 07/11/2024 13:05

Christmaspiggyjack · 07/11/2024 12:55

I thought parent and child spaces were for children to be able to access the shop safely - for example nearby a path that leads to the shop and next to the shop so they’re not dodging in and out of moving cars throughout the car park. Or in my case, so that the car next to us isn’t reduced to scrap as my kids flamboyantly throw open the car door.

So the point of them being left in the car is a bit pointless?

I always thought it was to give space for the car door for parents to assist them in and out of a child seat.

Lakeyloo · 07/11/2024 13:10

Pure laziness. No sympathy.
In regards to older children, either teach your child to open car doors carefully (which they should be able to do by 12) or park further away where the car park is relatively empty ! You don't need to get car seats/pushchairs/prams out and you don't need to get a trolley close to the car so that you can put your baby/small child into the seat in the trolley. (unless the child has some additional needs then disabled spaces/P&C spaces absolutely)

HecatesBees · 07/11/2024 13:48

ModernMadnessEra · 07/11/2024 12:40

FyI

This was not myself in the news story

I shared the story, because this is a huge fine for a parent, who parked in a parent & child parking space

The company spokesman added: "No children exited the vehicle and therefore the driver did not require the extra space provided and should have parked in a regular parking bay."

Rachel, from Cringleford, Norfolk, said: "I feel so annoyed. It's just an easy way of making money out of people.

"I just saw a parents' space and parked there. I thought that will do, my boy's not well and I need to get in and get home.

"There's no leeway and no humanity. With three children, that's a lot of money for 20 minutes' parking."

She justifies leaving her poorly three-year-old Benjamin with older sisters Sofia, aged 10, and Amalia, aged seven, while she popped into the shop.

The National Parking Enforcement (NPE), which manages the car park, issued her a parking charge notice (PCN) requesting that she paid a £100 fine.

She also received a mother PCN but because she did not check the dates she assumed that they were for the same incident.

Her appeal for the fine was turned down and she was then charged and £60 for debt recovery fees for failing to pay the second fine.

She said: "I didn't even know it was against the rules to leave your kids in the car in a parents' parking space.

"I went back and read the small print on the sign and it did say you've got to be accompanied out of the vehicle by a child under the age of 12. I admit I didn't see that.

"But the photos they sent me of my car in the space showed two other free parents' spaces.

Hoppinggreen · 07/11/2024 13:50

Thats crappy parenting and a sense of entitlement

Justcallmebebes · 07/11/2024 13:55

I applaud the fining of people for improper use of child and disability spaces. It's about time

She's a cheeky fucker and hopefully won't do it again. Result

WhichSock · 07/11/2024 14:13

I’m always amazed by people who go to the newspapers to get more publicity for a story which portrays them as being as thick as mince.

It never occurred to her that the child had to leave the car to use the space? What did she think the extra space is for - just a nice perk of having a child?

Aliflowers · 07/11/2024 14:18

If they’re old enough to be left alone in a car they’re too old for you to be using a P&C space

ModernMadnessEra · 07/11/2024 14:21

FYI

I was not aware of the rule that there was an age limit of 12 for a child to use the parking bay

Example
My friend has a disabled child over the age of 12
I assume she would qualify for disabled parking over 12 then.

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SinnerBoy · 07/11/2024 14:22

dementedpixie · Today 11:58

£260 fine - bit steep

It was for four separate incidents and a £60 bailiff's fee. I've no sympathy.

TwistedWonder · 07/11/2024 14:26

Good I wish more got fined for taking the absolute piss.

Anyone with half a brain knows the main purpose of these spaces are for parents with small children in prams/pushchairs/buggys who need extra room getting in and out of the car.

Even the age 12 limit is taking pee really as most people with school age kids don’t really need to use them.

The only madness is from the entitled twats who act like this and then whinge about it.

Coconutter24 · 07/11/2024 14:27

If a child is old enough to be left in the car while you shop then you don’t need a parent and child space. Even more so the fact the child didn’t get out the car!! If the child is young enough to warrant a parent and child space and you left them alone in the car then shame on you! You deserve the fine for being a careless parent

edited to add just read you actually didn’t do this but sharing the story… sorry, so un aim my comment at you and it applies to whoever does this

IKEAJesus · 07/11/2024 14:27

I assume she would qualify for disabled parking over 12 then.

Only if the child qualifies for a blue badge

Cakeandcardio · 07/11/2024 14:41

Very nice to see people being penalised for using these rare spaces. You didn't need it OP. You took it because it made your life easier and now you are annoyed you got caught.

Hoppinggreen · 07/11/2024 14:52

WhichSock · 07/11/2024 14:13

I’m always amazed by people who go to the newspapers to get more publicity for a story which portrays them as being as thick as mince.

It never occurred to her that the child had to leave the car to use the space? What did she think the extra space is for - just a nice perk of having a child?

Edited

Yep, half the time The papers do it as a piss take - they give the idiots the rope to hang themselves and let people laugh at them for clicks
"going to the papers" isn't the gotcha many people think it is

Wheelz46 · 07/11/2024 14:56

ModernMadnessEra · 07/11/2024 14:21

FYI

I was not aware of the rule that there was an age limit of 12 for a child to use the parking bay

Example
My friend has a disabled child over the age of 12
I assume she would qualify for disabled parking over 12 then.

Well if your friend has a disabled badge she will qualify for a disabled space.

Additionally doesn't a disabled badge allow you to park in most places so they would in theory be allowed to park in a parent and child space with a disabled badge, irrelevant of age.

TwistedWonder · 07/11/2024 14:57

HecatesBees · 07/11/2024 13:48

The company spokesman added: "No children exited the vehicle and therefore the driver did not require the extra space provided and should have parked in a regular parking bay."

Rachel, from Cringleford, Norfolk, said: "I feel so annoyed. It's just an easy way of making money out of people.

"I just saw a parents' space and parked there. I thought that will do, my boy's not well and I need to get in and get home.

"There's no leeway and no humanity. With three children, that's a lot of money for 20 minutes' parking."

She justifies leaving her poorly three-year-old Benjamin with older sisters Sofia, aged 10, and Amalia, aged seven, while she popped into the shop.

The National Parking Enforcement (NPE), which manages the car park, issued her a parking charge notice (PCN) requesting that she paid a £100 fine.

She also received a mother PCN but because she did not check the dates she assumed that they were for the same incident.

Her appeal for the fine was turned down and she was then charged and £60 for debt recovery fees for failing to pay the second fine.

She said: "I didn't even know it was against the rules to leave your kids in the car in a parents' parking space.

"I went back and read the small print on the sign and it did say you've got to be accompanied out of the vehicle by a child under the age of 12. I admit I didn't see that.

"But the photos they sent me of my car in the space showed two other free parents' spaces.

So she’s thick and entitled and decided the papers need to be aware of her stupidity

ModernMadnessEra · 07/11/2024 15:11

I am surprised by other peoples unsupportive comments.

I have sympathy for this lady? especially when she was supporting someone who was sick.

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