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Describing a person as ‘rough’

54 replies

hannall · 05/11/2024 22:19

I think this is incredibly offensive, yet I hear people do this all the time! Oh Sandra, she’s nice but a bit rough. Oh Eric, be careful he’s a big rough!

What does it even mean? I can’t actually believe how often I hear it and people don’t seem to think twice about using that description!

OP posts:
BetterInColour · 06/11/2024 00:19

I live in a mostly working-class area, but it is not rough. It's safe, pleasant, people are nice, I'm not afraid to go out any time of night. The people are not rough either, in the main. Individuals who are rough don't abide by social norms, like swearing a lot in public, behaving in an aggressive or 'out there' way and don't care about others very much. In my head, anyway.

BetterInColour · 06/11/2024 00:22

To me, a rough area would be one where there's a lot of open drug dealing, alcohol problems, crisis families, feels unsafe, you might call it 'underclass' or very deprived. Rough families tend to not care for the opinions of their neighbours about the state of their house, or their behaviour.

It can be used in a slightly different sense: 'I like a bit of rough' means I fancy a hot working-class guy. So it depends on context.

Ponoka7 · 06/11/2024 00:23

It used to be rough and ready. Night watchmen, bin men used to be the rough and ready type, because they did dirty/rough work or had to rough it, going the toilet outside/no washing facilities/sleeping on a makeshift bed etc. My gardeners are rough, they don't care about cleaning up dead rats, scooping out drains etc. Sound people, but happy to rough it and don't care if their lives/homes lack the polish some of us want. You wouldn't let them try to landscape.
But my definition might be used by people over 45, or it's regional, because it wasn't an Insult.

Changethetoner · 06/11/2024 00:57

Swearing.
Smoking.
Shouting at their children.
Eating in the street (the shame). lol.
Mainly the swearing.

IDontHateRainbows · 06/11/2024 00:59

I think the full saying is 'rough as a bear's arse'.

It's what was referred to in times of yore as chavvy, or what my mum would call 'common'.

IDontHateRainbows · 06/11/2024 01:00

And 'rough trade' is what men called a male prostitute who, ahem, liked to give ( presumably roughly) rather than receive.

Before it became a record label.

IDontHateRainbows · 06/11/2024 01:02

Spagettifunctional · 05/11/2024 22:41

Someone who burps out loud, swears, shouts, doesn’t have grace and politeness

for me being rough or not is nothing to do with class or money - basic manners and decency makes someone a good person

Edited

See, I do all of those. But only in the privacy of my own home!

StormingNorman · 06/11/2024 01:02

Jeremy Kyle’s guests were always rough as fuck. There’s your stereotype.

Caerulea · 06/11/2024 01:10

Hmmm

Members of the middle & upper classes never get referred to as rough. So whilst you're all talking around it, yes it's very much rooted in class & snobby af

MidnightMeltdown · 06/11/2024 01:12

It's only offensive if you say it to their face

Gagaandgag · 06/11/2024 01:28

I think of Rab C Nesbitt

Vates · 06/11/2024 05:59

The area I live in is most definitely rough and although I haven't been described as rough (to my face at least!) I have been called unkempt in appearance. When I think of rough type of people I am referring to the drug addicts and street drinkers that frequent my area (near city centre). My actual neighbours are fine and not remotely scary or rough. To me it means loud, obnoxious and rude. Also chaotic lifestyle.

K0OLA1D · 06/11/2024 06:08

Hydrangea58 · 06/11/2024 00:09

Lacking in social graces, loud, uses bad language, wears jeans with holes and hoodies, has tattoos and piercings. (Yes, I'm snobby and try to avoid these types).

You win. First one to mention tattoos and piercings

PicturePlace · 06/11/2024 06:22

I always took it to mean prone to violence/aggressive.

Zanatdy · 06/11/2024 06:26

It means lower social class, not afraid to speak her mind and perhaps might have a reputation. Its not a word i’ve used for many years but I have used it before in my youth.

Keepmedicationoutofthereachofchildren · 06/11/2024 06:43

No airs and graces - wouldn’t think twice about having a blazing row in the street & would tell anyone who was looking at them to f-off.

My mother often says how lovely people are but their family are a bit rough, so I suppose a bit of a chaotic home environment.

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 06/11/2024 06:53

Hate it, some of the nicest, most honest people I know have been described as 'rough' while some of the most polite, smooth talking people i know are slimy, creepy AF boot lickers 🤮

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 06/11/2024 07:08

I love how these answers run the full gamut from "eating in the street" to "openly dealing drugs"
Clearly milage may vary!

If I heard someone described as rough I would assume they are working class and know how to fight.

tuvamoodyson · 06/11/2024 07:10

KrisAkabusi · 05/11/2024 22:37

Why do you think it's offensive if you don't even know what it means?

Next time someone says it OP, ask them what they mean? Oh, and avoid Eric and Sandra..

sandgrown · 06/11/2024 07:19

My neighbours are rough. They thought setting their big loud fireworks off in the middle of the street rather than their garden was a good idea . It’s a cul de sac so they were very close to cars etc and had to move when their takeaway turned up !

MyKookyUmberTraybake · 06/11/2024 07:22

I don't think it's offensive if used to describe behaviour which is rough.

Using it to describe someone based on what they wear or their appearence could be rude and classist.

xyz111 · 06/11/2024 07:24

There's loads of rough women in my town centre. Rough to me means loud, sweary, likely to beat you up if you look at them wrong.

TorroFerney · 06/11/2024 07:25

SocksAndTheCity · 05/11/2024 22:45

If you're genuinely hearing this all the time, it means you know a lot of unpleasant snobs.

Or you hang around with a lot of rough people?

TorroFerney · 06/11/2024 07:31

IDontHateRainbows · 06/11/2024 00:59

I think the full saying is 'rough as a bear's arse'.

It's what was referred to in times of yore as chavvy, or what my mum would call 'common'.

Edited

It’s a badgers bum here!

Treeinthesky · 06/11/2024 07:47

Very middle class job respected etc I'm very middle class, my kids are etc my ex husband was I worked hard go get to where I am I've bought my husband out etc going through divorce. Now my bf I met him going through the separation and tbh I was down. I met him and he was different and it attracted me. It doesn't now and I need to work out things such as getting rid or working on. So I would describe him as rough. Prison bad upbringing swears in every sentence literally and wont stop. Shouts, doesn't listen, iv found a needle in his draw he had a bag of coke delivered other day whilst I was in with kids my daughter noticed it and asked who he was talking to. He ushered in kitchen I followed he put a hammer in draw. Anyways full of cocaine. So I washed it. Not said anything since but inside I want rid but again he's a big bloke has anger issues and is controlling so yano this rough bloke could hurt me so I have to be careful but yes that's rough