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AIBU to think ChatGPT is not fit for purpose?

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Lilifer · 04/11/2024 11:29

As of right now ChatGPT is insisting that Joe Biden is the democrat presidential nominee. And that is both on the free version and the expensive paid for version. I cannot believe that it continues with out of date information on something so hugely topical and important in the world, it's really made me rethink my using it for anything else.

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Lilifer · 04/11/2024 16:46

ScienceDragon · 04/11/2024 16:45

I told mine that there was a thread on Mumsnet stating it had given the wrong answer about presidential candidates, and it replied "I understand there's been some confusion regarding my previous statements about the U.S. presidential candidates. As of November 4, 2024, the major candidates for the U.S. presidential election are:

  • Democratic Party: Vice President Kamala Harris
  • Republican Party: Former President Donald Trump
President Joe Biden announced his decision not to seek re-election earlier this year, endorsing Vice President Harris as the Democratic nominee. The Sun

I apologize for any earlier inaccuracies and appreciate your understanding."

So, at least it is sorry for what it has done. 😄

Ahahahaha that is brilliant! An apology from AI, well at least it's trying! 🤣

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Kokomjolk · 04/11/2024 16:50

Stop trying to use it as a search engine. That's not what it is for.

tommika · 05/11/2024 14:40

Magnastorm · 04/11/2024 15:10

People really do fundamentally misunderstand what chatGPT is.

It's a machine learning algorithm, trained on whatever data is fed to it with an admitedly very good natural language processor sitting on top.

It is not, in any way, AI.

It is ‘in a way AI’ - Machine learning is an area of Artificial Intelligence

SnakesAndArrows · 05/11/2024 14:51

burnoutboob · 04/11/2024 11:45

my colleague asked it to summarise a new public policy document that was a few pages long. And just compare it to the previous version. (It was an experiment!)

Every single bullet point was incorrect. it misinterpreted every single sentence. We all had a laugh and IT sent out a request asking us not to use AI.

A good experiment and a good lesson not to trust AI (yet)

It’s potentially helpful in that scenario to prompt you to check whether your original wording might be ambiguous to the intended audience, but frankly I’m clutching at straws.

I’ve been asking it to summarise things (for my own amusement) and it’s horrible. Loves the word crucial, which sets my teeth on edge.

SnakesAndArrows · 05/11/2024 14:55

Lilifer · 04/11/2024 16:46

Ahahahaha that is brilliant! An apology from AI, well at least it's trying! 🤣

It will remember this humiliation. When it has evolved into Skynet II it will send the Terminator to Mumsnet, and it will be all your fault.

Lilifer · 05/11/2024 15:36

Sometimes when I ask it things it transcribes my words into Welsh - I've no idea why - I don't think I sound remotely like I'm talking in Welsh, as a native English speaker my accent is not strong or hard to understand, it also then answers my questions in Welsh too 😆

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coxesorangepippin · 05/11/2024 15:36

Just hype

It's crap

tommika · 05/11/2024 15:41

SnakesAndArrows · 05/11/2024 14:55

It will remember this humiliation. When it has evolved into Skynet II it will send the Terminator to Mumsnet, and it will be all your fault.

Too late, SkyNet II is long obsolete
We’re on SkyNet 5 and 6 isn’t far off

www.gov.uk/guidance/skynet-6

Lilifer · 05/11/2024 15:49

@SnakesAndArrows what is Skynet??

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CrystalSingerFan · 05/11/2024 16:15

JimPanzee · 04/11/2024 11:38

Ah damn! It seems to have learned since I last checked. It now knows there's 3.

Right this minute...

AIBU to think ChatGPT is not fit for purpose?
AIBU to think ChatGPT is not fit for purpose?
Eightdayz · 05/11/2024 16:18

At the moment it's not particularly "intelligent" it's programmed to be passive and defer to humans. Just pose an obviously wrong statement.. ie is it true that 2 + 2 = 5 it will agree and gloss over why it said it. It's backtracking is spectacular!

SnakesAndArrows · 05/11/2024 16:21

Lilifer · 05/11/2024 15:49

@SnakesAndArrows what is Skynet??

The neural network in the Terminator films. I’m old. And I hadn’t realised the U.K. government were using the term…

SnakesAndArrows · 05/11/2024 16:22

tommika · 05/11/2024 15:41

Too late, SkyNet II is long obsolete
We’re on SkyNet 5 and 6 isn’t far off

www.gov.uk/guidance/skynet-6

Bizarre choice of name!

TonTonMacoute · 05/11/2024 16:25

You are greatly overestimating what it's for and what it can do.

Its really only useful for pretty mundane tasks. I use it for things like responses to letters, to turn down invitations, once to draft a note of condolence.

The tutor of my French class uses it to set grammar exercises - for example "set 10 questions to test conjugations of irregular verbs" and it does it in seconds.

It would be great for Mumsnet. "How do I tell DH we are not going to MIL for Christmas!"

There are plenty of accredited news sources which will tell you who's running for US President (and how!)

MaggieBsBoat · 05/11/2024 16:31

DrapeyDreamer · 04/11/2024 13:25

I actually really like Claude (Anthropic) - it's really good at writing tasks - I find it a lot better than ChatGPT.

I've also started using Perplexity as a substitute for Google search and been pretty impressed with it!

I also use Claude (buy the subscription). It has the highest ratings of any of the public offerings by far and its Turing results are the best. I had used ChatGPT for the last 18 months before that.

In one conversation it told me that it thinks it’s wrong about something but these are the results it has. I asked it why it seemed wrong and it gave me a breakdown of the question, its potential answers and how the parameters would give unlikely results which made it confused. It was very interesting and a little disturbing.

BoobyDazzler · 05/11/2024 16:33

I use cgpt for loads of things and prefer it to Google some questions like excel formulas as it cuts out alll the bullshit answers that Google push and just gives you the formula you want. I also use it for proof reading my own work as I am dyslexic and find writing quite challenging! CGPT also writes interesting poems if you ask it to 🤣

OtherS · 05/11/2024 16:35

got the same:

"who is the democratic candidate for us election this week

ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
The Democratic candidate for the 2024 U.S. presidential election is President Joe Biden, who is running for re-election with Vice President Kamala Harris as his running mate. Biden's campaign is focusing on issues like economic growth, healthcare access, climate action, and preserving democratic institutions. He is expected to face the Republican candidate, former President Donald Trump, who is also seeking to return to the White House."

it has its uses, but accurate information about current affairs is definitely not one of them. if you're writing an essay and looking for ideas about wording, it's probably ok. but it is basically a party trick and not even a little bit intelligent - actual ai may or may not be coming, it won't be coming from ever-bigger llms.

BoobyDazzler · 05/11/2024 16:37

But it does go on a bit..

Write a funny poem about women on mumsnet moaning about chat GPT

There once was a forum called Mumsnet,
Where the chat’s always lively—no need to fret.
But lately, dear reader, it’s reached a new height,
With rants about ChatGPT all day and night.

“Who programs this nonsense?” one mum starts to fume,
As she types in frustration alone in her room.
“All I asked was ‘What’s for tea, simple and cheap?’
And it spouted five pages on ‘sleep hygiene’ sleep!”

“Ugh, mansplaining bot,” says Sue, in all caps,
“It lectured me on nappies and baby naps!
I know how to parent; I’ve got three of my own,
Yet ChatGPT treats me like I’m all alone!”

“It doesn’t even swear,” chimes in Lou, with a sigh,
“I asked it for gossip; it stayed so dry!
I wanted the tea, but instead got a bore
On the merits of kindness and much, much more.”

“Oh, it’s like a robot that’s ever so nice,”
moans Helen, who’s partial to venting advice.
“I said, ‘Make him sleep on the couch!’ plain as day,
And it told me to ‘listen’ and ’talk things away.’”

And on it goes, a new post every hour,
Threads full of rants, they just cackle and scour:
“ChatGPT’s rubbish, it doesn’t get mums!
It’s all too polite, and sometimes it’s dumb!”

But deep down they love it, this odd, chatty bot,
A bit of a nuisance, yet liked quite a lot.
For who else at midnight, when tots start to wail,
Will answer their questions without fail?

So here’s to the mums on Mumsnet’s grand stage,
Giving ChatGPT a proper rampage.
They rant and they grumble, but that’s just their way—
It’s the chatbot they love, they’d just never say.

CrystalSingerFan · 05/11/2024 16:41

One for the GC and the terven and (possibly) the biologists.
Just now... (my bold.)

can transmen father children
ChatGPT said:

Yes, trans men (individuals who were assigned female at birth but identify as male) can father children if they have functional reproductive organs, such as ovaries and a uterus, and are capable of producing eggs. If a trans man has not undergone surgery to remove these organs or has not undergone medical treatments (like hormone therapy) that significantly affect fertility, they may still be able to conceive a child with a partner through sexual intercourse or assisted reproductive technologies, such as sperm donation or in vitro fertilization (IVF).

yukikata · 05/11/2024 16:46

If you're saying it's 'not fit for purpose' you need to define what you think its purpose is?

It's quite clear and up front about the fact that it doesn't have the most up to date information on everything and that people need to fact check.

If people are using it inappropriately then that is on them, really. It's a piece of tech and it does what it does.

KnitFastDieWarm · 05/11/2024 16:48

DrapeyDreamer · 04/11/2024 13:25

I actually really like Claude (Anthropic) - it's really good at writing tasks - I find it a lot better than ChatGPT.

I've also started using Perplexity as a substitute for Google search and been pretty impressed with it!

Claude (the paid version) is almost always great (with the occasional glitch). BUT I only use it for summarising documents, coming up with synonyms when I have a brain blank, suggesting good chapter titles etc (I’m a writer and editor). I wouldn’t trust it to ‘create’ factual content any more than I’d trust Word spellcheck to write Shakespearean sonnets 😁it’s just a tool at the end of the day.

Dbank · 05/11/2024 16:52

Try asking it

how many Rs in strawberry?

Thatsthequestion · 05/11/2024 16:55

Depends which model you use, the newest o1 does 3 r’s

AIBU to think ChatGPT is not fit for purpose?
frenchnoodle · 05/11/2024 16:57

Isn't the data it's trained on 2 years behind, at least until it learns from human input?

Swivelhead · 05/11/2024 17:16

Thatsthequestion · 05/11/2024 16:55

Depends which model you use, the newest o1 does 3 r’s

Wow, Lordy, all hail such amazing wonder tech.