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Planning permission for children's home next door

42 replies

Turningandturning · 02/11/2024 11:16

We have a neighbour who has constantly caused problems since he bought the house next door around 8 years ago.
I say 'neighbour' but he hasn't ever lived there, he owns another house nearby, but has had various schemes to make money from the house which have been totally disruptive and stressful to us.
The house is detached and is on a corner so we are the only neighbours really affected.
The houses are, as I said, detached and on a large 1970s, fully residential estate.
He has just told us that he is applying for planning permission to change the use from C3 to C2 so some women can look after children there.
C2 seems to be a children's home,
I am sorry this is so long and am
really not a horrible nimby person but do want to understand the implications of him doing this.
It really is not possible to speak to him.
Thank you so much.

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AquaPeer · 02/11/2024 13:36

Oh sorry just assumed you threw in the point about aid work to show how caring you were- to people far away in other countries 😉

Turningandturning · 02/11/2024 13:36

Sorry sent too soon anyway would be in a remote African village.

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AquaPeer · 02/11/2024 13:37

boom there it is 😂 I am
so perceptive

Longma · 02/11/2024 13:41

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MatildaTheCat · 02/11/2024 13:43

@Turningandturning YANBU and I’d recommend getting onto the council asap for proper information on what the application entails and also canvas local neighbours for their views including your local councillors.

We had a home for care leavers just around the corner and it wasn’t too bad but they weren’t allowed visitors inside so there was a lot of hanging around smoking weed and some very noisy music at times. I’d also agree about the risk of other ASB, police visits and disturbances.

AquaPeer · 02/11/2024 13:43

The children might well undertake criminal behaviour or take drugs. They are by default, very very damaged having come almost to the end of childhood without caring loving parents. It’s really sad. The ones near me do annoy me socially but they have had a devastating life and I have been lucky so who am I to pass judgement on their problems?

Turningandturning · 02/11/2024 13:44

AquaPeer that was certainly not my intention.
I wanted to show that I hadn't lived in a place like this all my life and thus was afraid of meeting people not like me.
It's reassuring that the council will take charge of it and decide who lives there.
That wasn't the impression I got from the neighbour who said he will bring the woman carers to meet us on Monday.
He really doesn't have a good relationship with the council.

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photodiva · 02/11/2024 13:46

You do realise that many many children's homes only have one , or two, children? Gone are the days of Tracy Beaker homes where they have a dozen kids.

Newuser75 · 02/11/2024 13:49

We had one of these a few doors down from our old house. The whole estate objected and it still went through.

However in our experience it was nothing but positive. The kids were fine, lovely kids actually. The workers were lovely and they did a lot for the whole community.

We were worried but it was a really positive thing in the end.

Coolblur · 02/11/2024 13:52

I wouldn't like this at all. The image some on here seem to have that it will be poor orphans who will be housed is likely very far off the mark.
DH worked at a children's home for a while. The kids were teens who had sadly had a very tough start in life, but the reason they were in the home was no foster carers would take them due to their behaviour.
On day 1 he was advised not to park his newish sporty car there as the kids would definitely try to steal it or damage it. He was told plenty of stories, and witnessed enough to believe what he heard, about extreme anti social behaviour by some of the kids.
I highly doubt anyone on here would really want this right next door, no matter how altruistic they are.

Differentstarts · 02/11/2024 14:06

I was in several different care homes as a teenager some where better managed then others. One I was in was particularly bad, police their every day fights, drugs, property damage. I was moved out of it at 15 as I was pregnant hanging out with older men and taking drugs and drinking alcohol on a daily basis. However I was in others that where fairly calm and had quite strict rules and although their was issues nothing different then you would expect from other kids/teens in your local area.

BellaBlythe · 02/11/2024 15:11

You mention a corner plot. If your address and the other house are in different streets you might need to check that the Council acknowledge you as NDN.

Turningandturning · 02/11/2024 23:43

I'm leaving this thread because of people like AquaPeer.
I am old, unwell, disabled and have had nothing but problems since we moved here.
We've been involved with solicitors, surveyors, council planning dept among by other things.

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KickHimInTheCrotch · 02/11/2024 23:57

It's a very lucrative venture if he can get it off the ground. The local authorities are desperate for safe, appropriate supervised and supported accommodation for troubled young people and will pay virtually anything to companies who can provide it. Young people are currently bring placed hundreds of miles away from their schools, friends and families due to lack of suitable placements and local authorities are having to put these troubled youngsters up in hotels which are not safe or supervised at all.

Try and approach it with an open mind.

mrshoho · 03/11/2024 00:07

We have 2 houses in our small road that are used as care homes. We were never given any details or information. The young person in each house had learning disabilities and we would see them when they went walking with support staff. One young man would be quite loud in the evenings but it was obvious he had special needs. One house appears empty now and the other has a family so not sure what's happening now.

twilightcafe · 03/11/2024 11:09

KickHimInTheCrotch · 02/11/2024 23:57

It's a very lucrative venture if he can get it off the ground. The local authorities are desperate for safe, appropriate supervised and supported accommodation for troubled young people and will pay virtually anything to companies who can provide it. Young people are currently bring placed hundreds of miles away from their schools, friends and families due to lack of suitable placements and local authorities are having to put these troubled youngsters up in hotels which are not safe or supervised at all.

Try and approach it with an open mind.

Easy to say when a home for troubled teenagers isn't going to be next to your house...

Twofurrycats · 03/11/2024 11:15

It may not even be a planning application but a certificate of lawfulness as a change classification. My local council doesn't inform neighbours of these as they do with planning applications.

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