The NI changes are going to cost my organisation £1000 per employee

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The NI changes are going to cost my organisation on average £1000 per employee, The lowering of the threshold alone is going to cost around £600 extra per employee.

We are heavily regulated with fixed income. We're a not for profit. Our customers expectations are increasing. We are now most likely going to have to somehow reduce our headcount now, and payrises for April are going to be off the table.

Just shaking my head really. Our employees don't deserve this. Hard to see how this isn't a tax on jobs.

The lowering of the threshold also means employers have to pay for more workers, because part time salaries are now dragged into it.

A lot of people reading this won't care. All I can say is this NI increase will also affect you. just think about Local authorities, childcare providers and other services. Do you think it won't affect your Councils services/tax bills, to give one example?

(I'm not a Tory bot btw, before anyone starts accusing me of being one. I voted Remain, don't support the Tories at all, can't stand Boris and his cronies.)

Public services are so inefficient. So much in savings could be made if the NHS was run properly. It's all a mess.

I thought that was what a probationary period was for.

The Employment Rights Bill does have clauses on probationary periods.

The Tories and unfunded spending is why Labour are having to make such difficult choices

I was originally replying to the poster discussing workers rights from day 1, which is a pain for employers if you end up with someone unsuitable. There is a way around it, you can still have a probationary period.

Covid and Brexit fucked the Tories.

What a stupid comment.

Anything in the budget about immigration?

Part time workers should be pulled in - the issue has been with employers using this loophole to cut costs and increase profits. If the margin is this slim, is it even a viable venture - surely that's the question that should be asked. If the organisation is reliant on such small margins is it sustainable? Clearly not.

The Tories fucked the Tories. Remember Truss?

Labour could have made different choices. They didn’t need to offer huge pay deals with no agreement on productivity increases or modernisation. They could have completely revolutionised the tax bandings to avoid cliff edges, whilst increases percentages across all bands. They could have done a lot of things…..

What they have done to farmers is appalling and nothing short of a land grab. Changing NI bandings will result in those burdens being redistributed to consumers and employees.

Take nurseries for example - how will they cope? The sector is already in disarray and barely sustainable.

Labour have got this wrong. The money could have come from a million other places. What they have done is resign us to wage stagnation, low growth, poor quality and expensive childcare without fixing any of the real issues in the NHS. Talk about building a house on sand.

So you don't have evidence.

According to LGA, Councils are not necessarily exempt, they are seeking clarification. Town and Parish Councils are definitely not exempt nor are they covered by the cap as their precepts are separate.

All have to pay the increase in NMW as well.

If the country improves, I am all for tax rises. But I just want people to remember that they will be passed on to everyone, no matter what Labour says about Working people.

Jealously is rife.

Because the fact is it doesn't impact hugely, people are trying to gain political mileage and therefore clutch at straws- remember when NI was 13.25% under Rishi? Oh yes, it was 2 years ago, lest you may have forgotten....

If you are a small charity or company ensure you are claiming employment allowance if you're eligible (government subsidy to help cover NI costs).

Presumably what they've done to farms is part of a plan, rather than ignorance? And if it's part of a plan, presumably that plan is solar parks and housing.

Solar parks while flying in the food we need.

Or apparently China are very keen to buy land in the UK to grow rice for export to China due to global warming, so I guess that could be part of the plan.

Are you serious?

If you think this doesn't impact businesses hugely, you know very little. But the government seems the same, so you are in company at least.

Our business will have to take the increased NI contributions from the budget line we had put in for salary increases. There's nowhere else it can come from. And to make it balance next year we will have to delay the additional headcount we had planned and existing people will have to work a bit harder.

Answer the question then? I can't see a lie. If there was one I think the right wing press woukd be screaming it in the headlines by now, don't you?

I've already answered this question with an example.

Reeves knew that many businesses will have to do the same in order to keep afloat. They promised not to increase taxes on working people. But that is exactly what they have done. Even if it is by the back door. And also, who says business owners aren’t working people? They are so they’ve broken one of their main election promises. Sunak warned that they would increase tax massively and that is exactly what they have done.

here you go!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgl409gww1go

At the moment, GPs will not be included because they work out-with the NHS contract system - but then again, when the NHS was established, GPs were very anti- it (potential loss of income), so have always been rumunerated and managed out-with NHS employment policies, etc

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If 1.25% affects businesses so badly they have more significant financial issues to address. Fact

From what I can understand.. Tories didn't have enough tax revenue, but the poorest paid for it dearly in no public services, libraries closed, no sure start, bad NHS, social care etc. But Labour see we need these services but we have to get the money from somewhere and businesses seems the most palatable. Yes some people will be laid off etc but maybe their elderly Mother or disabled child will get proper social care they deserve.

But it seems the non profits should be exempt? Also should have made state pensions exempt from paying once over the tax free threshold.

Well they promised they wouldn’t increase taxes on working people and yet here we are…