The budget will cost my child's nursery £25k

[Cartwrightandson]

It's open term time only, in an old children's centre (closed down in 2016 due to Tory cuts). They can't take anymore children due to size and can't reduce staff because they have ratios they have to maintain.

They might have to either...stop taking sen children who need 1-2-1 and the funding doesn't allow for this or start or charging a supplement per hour for all children currently charging £5 per hour for non funded hours.

At the moment they are getting business rate relief, but this could change/stop...

Oh and the local authority are increasing the rent.also part of the contact is the nursery maintain everything, the leaking roof (built in 2008), broken boiler, fire safety, shutters, electric doors, grounds.

There's a real possibility the pre school will close.

7-8 members of staff and around 60 children. Has charity status as a community pre school.

Is this a nursery you run? The obvious answer is to end 121 provision if it's that or close the nursery.

Most nurseries can’t offer 1 to 1 unless they get funding for it.

1 2 1? Is this a Special needs unit?

How did you get to the 25k figure?
I run a charity with 12 staff and we will be around £10k worse off next year

It sounds like the building is dangerous, so should they be running a pre school out of it anyway?

The system is all going to be messed up honestly. Nurseries are already operating at a loss nvm when they need to pay members of staff so much more money. Theres not enough places as it is and it will only get worse

Yep £115k for us. Charity, absolute kick in the teeth that we will have to cut services that are so needed.

We are waiting for EHCPs and funding for several children who need a 1-1. If this isn't in place before April we will have to give those children notice as we can ot afford to subsidise them after April 1st.

we'll also have to put fees up and charge for consumables. We may also have to lose staff hours and let someone go. Hopefully we can keep going, but it depends on the funding rates and how much they're increased.

The families who earn more will just have to pay more out. it's awful.

It isn’t the fault of the budget. Nurseries have been running a loss or close to it for years. It’s due to the funded hours not being properly funded and many nurseries have already gone bust. £5 per hour for non-funded hours and no supplement is cheap, so I’m surprised they are still open. With a building as bad as you describe, they obviously need to look at their costings to ensure they can pay their staff and do the maintenance on the building.

Not all nurseries offer 1-2-1 support or accept ECHPs. Many don’t even allow 1-2-1 feeding time and will turn away parents of toddlers who can’t feed themselves. So the nursery should do whatever’s required

Funny isn’t it… Labour made a big point about not increasing taxes for working people. But increased costs of nurseries are going to need to be passed on to parents… who are working people, otherwise they wouldn’t need nursery. It costs over £20k a year for my 2 year old to attend nursery full time. I’m fully expecting another 10% increase next year (on the back of 10+% increases the last 2 years…)

Many nurseries have to use agency staff, sometimes multiple a day so that's a big part of their budget also.
I think a lot will go under. There has been a recruitment issue for years and with even more increases in terms of NI contributions, it will be the final nail in the coffin.