NMW to increase again next year to £12.21 ph.

[ZoeZee]

If you’ve not had a pay rise this year, despite bringing it up to your employer, and now there’s set to be another 6% NMW increase next year (which is fantastic, don’t get me wrong) the pay gap is narrowing ever more between skilled/unskilled employees.

Skilled and those with MANY years of experience, might as ditch their responsible/stressful jobs (which often keep you awake at night) and look for something that doesn’t have the added responsibility?

Almost 20 years experience means nothing to some employers! AIBU?

Any employers who have a view on this increase, please let me know how this might affect you and your staff.

Nmw is getting dangerously close to my husbands salary - he works stupidly unsocial in a manual engineering role - he's looking at moving to a nmw job for less stress and similar pay but better hours.

Very much agree with your first paragraph

Indeed, as I said I’ve done NMW jobs that were very stressful, and I acknowledged e.g. care workers are usually on NMW and that’s a very stressful job!

Are most of a care homes costs wages, the 25% profit or the mortgage on the actual property?

Wages. Around 90% in the one I work for.

Well do it then. What’s stopping you?

There is a huge amount of people earning around £25k - £30k, they will be mightily miffed I guess if they have been years in the job with a lot of extra responsibilities over those who are new and unskilled earning nearly the same, I doubt employers will put their salary up

not all care homes are self funding. The one I work for has various LA’s paying fees. They have a cap on fees so the increase in wages, food, medical supplies, all other costs and an increase in minimum wage will mean cuts in other places, but how long that can go on for, whoever knows

Meanwhile, every NHS Band 2, who do the majority of the admin and donkey work, is currently on £12.08ph after the latest payrise

For those thinking that they are so qualified and experienced that they may as well get an NMW job as it will be sooooo much easier - off you trot then. Get used to SSP, etc and the barest minimum of many of the T&Cs you currently enjoy. And, of course, people like the OP thinking they're just that little bit better than you.

Tbh, by 2025 there really isn’t anything stopping me. I have what, maybe 13 years left until retirement, don’t think there really is anything stopping me now.

We should not be accepting that staff get poorly paid. It scandalous

Leading to more accidents and more pressure on the NHS/A&E/Ambulances etc

It’s not just NMW that will do in these small businesses- it also the ending of business rate relief AND an increase of employers NI. It’s going to bloody crush small businesses, and a load of people will end up laid off, so it won’t really matter how much anyone deserves a pay rise.

I agree. If you did the minimum wage job, did extra qualifications and took on extra responsibilities to earn in the next bracket up, but then the gap is smaller it isn't very motivating to keep going.

Sometime the next step up is nicer in other ways like flexibility or interest but not always.

So that’s roughly £23500 a year for a full time role.

Are you for real, you've no Idea of the expectations of a nmw employee from employer's..it's hard graft from start to finish..ask any supermarket employee.
Take your head out of your arse
You haven't got a fucking clue what nmw worker's endure

I'm shocked that this is even an existing hourly wage.

My neighbour pointed this out as well.

Try and find a full time role.
It's near enough under 16 hrs to avoid paying NI contributions for employees.

we don’t have band 2 in our trust.
Are your admin and support staff (I’m guessing that’s what you mean by the people doing the donkey work?) really band 2?

Back-breaking work, pot washing. Especially once you're in your fifties. Kitchens are usually toxic environments too. And the pub won’t be making any further contributions to your pension, so I assume that the job you don’t think there is any point continuing to do has swelled your pot handsomely over the years if you can afford to grow it no more.