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AIBU to want to report ex-friend to social services?

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basicallyperceptive · 28/10/2024 16:43

I would be greatfull for some input on an issue I'm struggling with. Met a friend through a common aquintance, knew her for about a year. She had a very different background from me, a bit rough, no dad around, young mum on benefits. When I met her she herself was continuing the tradition by being a teenage mum in social housing on benefits and not working.

Never judged or anything, she had a lovely toddler, such a bright boy. Said her ex (the child's dad) was physically abusive so not involved, she had got restraining order against him.

Slowly as we knew each other I started to notice things about how she cared for her kid, I'm not a mum and not sure I will be, but her boy was such a nice child, I would parent him in a heartbeat if you know what I mean, so I didn't get how she would not do a proper job.

I decided to end the friendship eventuelly, but I can't stop thinking whether I should alert the social services (I know she has been involved with them before and had to do a parenting course, so not sure how alerting would affect her, if at all).

Trying not to be too outing, my main concerns when friendly with her was:

  • Child wanted to be potty trained, but she refused. Child was crying and having breakdowns outside the toilet door, but she kept pushing for diapers.
  • Child was left in soggy diapers for a long time. Once went paddling in water and she left child in soaked diaper, he actually didn't even bother going to his mum but came to me shivering saying he was cold.
  • When I distanced myself as a friend she sent messages and pictures detailing how she forgot child's bucket hat (which I had gifted) and had no suncream, so he had been burning in the sun all day (don't have these messages any more)
  • I spent time at their place before play school sometimes and she would dress child in dirty clothes and told me she only bathes the child once a week at most
  • Her flat was very very filthy
  • She would tell me she didn't feel settled in her flat (brand new apartment building) so she would take her child and go out at 11pm, going on buses for hours and sometimes staying on friends sofas
  • Never watched her child, he got a lot of quite bad bruises from falling and running into things, had to wear a cast once
  • Constantly put him in front of her phone, even when he didn't want to

There are more things, but I get upset even thinking about it. The reason it's still in my head is because another friend said she'd seen her recently and you would not recognise the little boy, he's actually regressed and stopped talking and is very violent. Apparently the ex-friend describes it as the little boy is "abusing" her (he's 3 years old). She's also started accusing other people in her life about abuse and other things, to the point of having someone arrested for false accusations. She's also taken back everything she's ever said about her child's father and is now apparently letting him see him.

I guess I would want opinions on whether it's even worth putting in that I'm concerned to Social Services? Or are the points above so minor they won't bother? At the very least I would want her to get some mental health help, she doesn't seem stable to me, and it's such a shame for the child.

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GivingitToGod · 28/10/2024 18:38

basicallyperceptive · 28/10/2024 16:53

I think that's why I can't let it go, if I ever heard something had happened to the child I would be forever blaming myself. I don't know a lot of people with children though, so I am not sure what is normal parenting behaviour, and people seem to think social services will ruin lives.

Everything I mentioned is within 1.5 years. I think I might do an anonymous report to the local council.

Good idea. I had to do this years ago

5128gap · 28/10/2024 18:51

If you think a child needs help, you have one job, and that's to report. Never waste time wondering if its 'bad enough' or asking opinions of other lay people and strangers. Just pass the matter to the professionals and they will decide whether there's an issue. Far too many people try to do their own investigation and risk assessment, and they really shouldn't. Raise your concerns.

FuzzyGoblin · 28/10/2024 18:54

You clearly do judge her and you should have reported her a long time before all of this accumulated to this stage.

Nextdoor55 · 28/10/2024 19:28

Also you could report to the nspcc because they screen & refer to SS, who might actually take it more seriously. The NSPCC are a bit more empathetic in my experience.

Noseybookworm · 28/10/2024 22:47

You have legitimate concerns about this little boy's safety and well being. What you've described is neglect. Please report to social services. It's better to be over cautious than to do nothing and find out that he's come to harm.

Ginkypig · 28/10/2024 23:28

Iv only ever had to do it once.

i like you was hesitant but like others here have said I believe we as adults in society are all responsible for the safeguarding of our children and vulnerable so I did it anonymously and tried to be as factual as possible and said I thought if nothing else parents needed support but I felt it was important that the children were on someone’s radar.

in the end I’m very glad I did as both children were eventually removed from their care so there was obviously more than I knew was going on. Although what I did know I felt was bad enough.
about the same time parents split up and he moved out then she did a midnight move one night so I have no idea what happened since.

cansu · 28/10/2024 23:34

If you were genuinely concerned about any of these things you would have reported them at the time and not just because she is now an ex friend.

basicallyperceptive · 28/10/2024 23:39

cansu · 28/10/2024 23:34

If you were genuinely concerned about any of these things you would have reported them at the time and not just because she is now an ex friend.

The reason I didn't at the time is because she seemed to get involved with a nice family who were supporting her (dating one of their children), but it seems that didn't work out for whatever reason and going by the friend who saw her since things have only got worse for her unfortunately.

I'm going to write something and report tomorrow, going by this post I might raise concerns both with the local council and NSPCC.

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basicallyperceptive · 28/10/2024 23:40

Nextdoor55 · 28/10/2024 19:28

Also you could report to the nspcc because they screen & refer to SS, who might actually take it more seriously. The NSPCC are a bit more empathetic in my experience.

Ok, didn't know about NSPCC so will look them up! Thank you.

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basicallyperceptive · 28/10/2024 23:43

FuzzyGoblin · 28/10/2024 18:54

You clearly do judge her and you should have reported her a long time before all of this accumulated to this stage.

I don't feel like I judge her for her background, more that I judge her for how she's handling herself now. But I obviously don't know her whole story and their might be some more in depth trauma causing her not being able to act in a responsible parent way. I don't think any of this should affect her child though so will definitely report now. It seemed at one point she was getting and accepting help and I thought it would help her improve, but this seems not to have been the case unfortunately :(

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Femme2804 · 28/10/2024 23:45

Please report it to social services. Please please. If something happen to that boy l, the guilt will haunt you forever. Poor boy. I really hate this type of people. No better than rats!

suburberphobe · 28/10/2024 23:47

OFF's sake. A child being abused and you have to ask MN,s if you have to make a call?

Do it now or tomorow at the earliest.

Make that call and thank you for asking here.

TheShellBeach · 28/10/2024 23:50

@DurinsBane there was no need to quote the whole OP.

Tittat50 · 28/10/2024 23:51

@TeapotTitties that isn't helpful really. Good on OP because for many people this way of living is normal! I have extended family who all grew up with situations very much like the above.

I think it's good to sense check. I would really have to think on this one myself and it does not mean we are all dumb dumbs. Let's not put another poster off coming here to sense check.

GoldenSunflowers · 29/10/2024 00:00

You’re not overthinking or overreacting. Please report.

Fgfgfg · 29/10/2024 00:11

As pp have said you can report anonymously through the NSPCC
https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/reporting-abuse/report/

Greencustard · 29/10/2024 01:08

TheShellBeach · 28/10/2024 23:50

@DurinsBane there was no need to quote the whole OP.

That drives me mad. So annoying.

basicallyperceptive · 29/10/2024 08:02

Fgfgfg · 29/10/2024 00:11

As pp have said you can report anonymously through the NSPCC
https://www.nspcc.org.uk/keeping-children-safe/reporting-abuse/report/

Thanks, will use that link today.

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basicallyperceptive · 29/10/2024 10:01

Just to update, I have reported to NSPCC, their online form was not working but I emailed them and asked to be anonymous, if she figures out it's me she does, the safety of a child weighs higher than me being nervous about being identified.

Thanks for everyone's input.

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Ginkypig · 29/10/2024 17:02

I hope it works out @basicallyperceptive

you are right that the wee guy’s safety is priority

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