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Guy at Lidl trying to make me use self check out

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Earlynightthen · 27/10/2024 17:58

I don’t *Have to, do I?

Shopping in Lidl with dd, 6 (very active, all over the place type child)
We had a trolley full, there was one till that seemed to be sort of open..girl on till coming on and off it to do other bits.
The shop was quiet, few other people, with baskets at the self check out.
Guy who works there came over and in a friendly way said would I like to go to the self checkout, I replied politely, no thank you as I had a lot to unpack and trying to watch dd running around etc and continued to the normal check out to put my things on the conveyer belt thing. He continues to me that it was ok, he’d do it with me/show me how to do it. Again, I said it was ok I knew how to do it but it was easier for me to just unpack my things, he carried on and on, until i had to say ‘I dont have to, right?’ He kind of laughed, but looked at me like I was weird.
I managed to gently push past and put my things on and the girl came to pass them through

Was I being weird, or him?!

OP posts:
yeaitsmeagain · 28/10/2024 00:23

He was politely implying to you that the staff had other things they needed to get done. Not saying it's right, just saying that staff have too much to do in the time they have.

Kago2790 · 28/10/2024 00:41

Had similar in Aldi. Don't like it. Remember when they were introduced it was all promises that there will always be tills available. Yeah right.

5foot5 · 28/10/2024 00:53

Really do not get the hate for self service tills. I would always use them by preference. I mean, why wouldn't you? It's so much quicker.

Actually, best of all is smart scan. We always use this in Sainsburys and I honestly can't imagine how tedious it would be to have to go back to the old days of going through a manned check out. Well I can imagine it, that's why I don't want to do it.

rainfallpurevividcat · 28/10/2024 01:07

I don't know why they were trying to get you to.use the self checkout with a full trolley load. The manned checkout is much quicker when you have a lot of stuff. They should have kept one open.

rainfallpurevividcat · 28/10/2024 01:09

yeaitsmeagain · 28/10/2024 00:23

He was politely implying to you that the staff had other things they needed to get done. Not saying it's right, just saying that staff have too much to do in the time they have.

They had a customer in front of them who needed to buy a trolley load of food. That's what the checkout assistant needed to get done. The customer is not interested in what else the member of staff might have to do.

CherryFlan · 28/10/2024 01:15

5foot5 · 28/10/2024 00:53

Really do not get the hate for self service tills. I would always use them by preference. I mean, why wouldn't you? It's so much quicker.

Actually, best of all is smart scan. We always use this in Sainsburys and I honestly can't imagine how tedious it would be to have to go back to the old days of going through a manned check out. Well I can imagine it, that's why I don't want to do it.

Really do not get the hate for self service tills. I would always use them by preference. I mean, why wouldn't you? It's so much quicker.

I don't think it is quicker. But anyway, I'm never in a rush. And it completely changes the relationship with the staff from them being a friendly assistant to one where there is a thinly-veiled suspicion that you are stealing things or somehow trying to play the system and they're there to keep an eye on you while alarms and lights go off and you're shouted at by an automated voice.

So bollocks to that, if I can't be trusted not to put unexpected items in the bagging area then they can do the scanning for me thanks very much and I'll just pay!

FruityShampoo · 28/10/2024 01:17

I hate self checkouts and won’t use them. If there is no alternative I always ask for help and get the staff member to do it for me. I am very absent minded at times and don’t ever want to be accused of not scanning something through, so won’t put myself in that situation.

He needs to take no for an answer.

coxesorangepippin · 28/10/2024 01:19

He should ask once

You said no

He leaves it.

You are the customer!

rainfallpurevividcat · 28/10/2024 01:24

I like self-checkouts but would not scan a full large trolley myself on one. I only physically go to the store for top up shops anyway as our weekly shop is pretty big and we have it delivered.

LiddleTwunt · 28/10/2024 01:32

I prefer to use a staffed checkout with a large shop but I wish our Lidl had a self service till.

The chap on the till here is mostly surly, snappy and just downright rude. Not with blokes I’ve noticed. And not with the young women.

Overheard him trying to be billybigbollocks with one of the young members of staff. He was describing something he’d been to see which was full of ‘sexual overtones, phallic symbolism with nods to onanism’ and other such tosh and that it would take someone of a certain mind and intelligence to understand.

Creepy as well as rude.

FictionalCharacter · 28/10/2024 03:43

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 27/10/2024 18:07

He should have stopped after the first time OP refused to use the self check out.

Once is doing his job, any more is harassment, and his job description most likely doesn’t include harassing the customers.

I agree. She said no thank you, that should be the end of it, he shouldn’t have kept on about it.

Borninabarn32 · 28/10/2024 03:49

Never fall for the "I'll help you", no they bloody won't. I gave in once with toddler DS in a mood and a trolley full and I was on the verge anyway. She literally walked off the second I got to the self checkout and I couldn't face starting the queue again. Toddler started crying, checkout kept getting the weights wrong. I just left it there and left.

They don't have the staff to properly support the self checkout.

MissTrip82 · 28/10/2024 04:31

Must be a real hassle for those who are affronted by the existence of self-service tills and ‘automation’ when they can only get money from the bank at limited times because they won’t use the ATMs fhat replaced bank tellers 40+ years ago.

Feelingstrange2 · 28/10/2024 04:36

Poor guy. He's probably new. Been nagged at by management to get people to use self service and now being nagged at by customers.

If you go to the loo there, you'll probably see their staff board with action of the week - ask more customers to use the SS tills!

Company pressure and annoying yeah. Not his fault though he wants to keep his job. Let him go.

NotAnotherCodeBlueAt3Am · 28/10/2024 04:47

I feel that when they make you use self checkout you should immediately change your mind about 50% of the items and leave them on the side. If enough people did this, they would it out.

Also if they are going to insist on self checkouts I want a discount on my shopping.

Differentstarts · 28/10/2024 05:26

NotAnotherCodeBlueAt3Am · 28/10/2024 04:47

I feel that when they make you use self checkout you should immediately change your mind about 50% of the items and leave them on the side. If enough people did this, they would it out.

Also if they are going to insist on self checkouts I want a discount on my shopping.

You do understand the people in stores aren't the ones who make these decisions right. So leaving half your shopping behind will make no difference apart from meaning even less staff at checkouts and self scan to help customers

Vates · 28/10/2024 06:00

My preference is for self-checkouts, I love them! But this staff member should have taken your first answer of 'no, thanks'. Although I wouldn't go to a manned till I believe that there should be a choice and that some customers genuinely need these tills, disability, someone needing social interaction due to loneliness, stressed out and finds it easier, etc.

I go to Asda for my shopping in the morning about 7-7.30 am and there are no manned tills available at those times. 4 trolley and 10 basket self-checkouts. I often see people looking annoyed with their trolley full of food when they realise they have to use the self-checkouts. Normally the member of staff can't stay with them to put it through for them because they're covering all of self-checkouts. Busier times they usually have two staff members there.

autienotnaughty · 28/10/2024 06:01

He's probably not use to people saying no so pushed back. I think it was reasonable for him to say he would assist you. But once you said no thank you he should have politely moved away.

harveyGaskellsMoll · 28/10/2024 06:11

A few months ago using a self scan with scan and go in my local Asda I got a quality check and a 95p item hadn’t scanned properly, it hadn’t registered on the scales as it was too light. It was a big shop over £80 and I’d think common sense would show it was obviously a mistake that there was only one cheap, light unscanned item.
The staff member doing the check made it into a huge issue and basically acted like I was a shoplifter.

The next time I went in when she was working I didn’t get an automatic quality check that showed on the scanner but she said there had been problems with the tills and had to check my shopping, she seemed almost disappointed that everything had been scanned. I was going to email and complain to Asda but in the end just thought she’s only doing her job.

I stopped using scan and go after that but in the evening when I shop there are only self checkouts open and every time she was working she was hovering around me, DP once said loudly “I wish that stupid woman would stop staring at us and do some work!” But she still stood watching us like we were criminals.

A few weeks ago she struck again, I go shopping late on as DP finishes work in the evening and has the car for work, there are usually lots of reduced items and on this occasion we decided to use scan and go again as we wanted to add it up as we went along because we were trying to stick to a budget. There were about 15 things in our trolley that were reduced. Again no quality check showed on the scanner but same woman rushed over and told me she had to check my trolley and do a full rescan and put it through the checkout. I wish I’d walked out but we really needed the shopping and it was decent stuff that was marked down.
At the end the total on my scanner was £74 but when she put it through the checkout it was £89, the manager gets called over and I get a lecture about how bad it is to shop lift and the impact it has on the store and other shoppers. The staff member said she needed to speak to the manager about involving the police. I was mystified as I’d made sure everything had scanned properly and counted items in my trolley and matched them to the total on the scanner.
The manager realised that the reduced items had scanned on the scanner but not added to the total of the shopping and explained to this staff member that I had indeed scanned everything but it was a fault on their end. I got no apology and other customers were staring at me and DP having our shopping checked by the manager with other staff all standing round us watching.

I was so embarrassed and humiliated and was almost in tears, DP was angry but just trying to pack it up quickly and get out.

I emailed ASDA but got no apology and just told that staff have to do quality checks in case of shoplifting or people “making errors whilst using self scan”
With the amount of staff that were standing watching that night and the manager involved surely one of them could operate a till?

I avoided going back but as it’s the only late opening supermarket and I needed to use the pharmacy one evening we went back, I thought we’d be left alone after what happened but same staff member homed in on us, we just left the trolley and walked out and haven’t been back.

This is why lots of people hate to use the self scan, as a pp said you watched and treated like a shoplifter even if you are just trying to scan your shopping, you often need approval anyway or coupons validated or something is too light. If they are that concerned about shop lifters that they have several staff standing round watching then why can’t those staff jump on a till?
Its put me off using any self checkout now and all for a genuine mistake and a technical fault that wasn’t down to me.

I recently went to Aldi with a full trolley and there was no one on the tills and just self checkout open, I asked if I someone could jump on a checkout and they were more then happy to open one up. I had nothing against a self checkout before but I doubt I’ll use one again now after what happened in ASDA.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 28/10/2024 06:20

MissTrip82 · 28/10/2024 04:31

Must be a real hassle for those who are affronted by the existence of self-service tills and ‘automation’ when they can only get money from the bank at limited times because they won’t use the ATMs fhat replaced bank tellers 40+ years ago.

Can’t you see the difference between a scanning and packing away a trolley full of stuff and a single ATM transaction?

NotAnotherCodeBlueAt3Am · 28/10/2024 06:20

Differentstarts · 28/10/2024 05:26

You do understand the people in stores aren't the ones who make these decisions right. So leaving half your shopping behind will make no difference apart from meaning even less staff at checkouts and self scan to help customers

You do realise that layers of management above them run businesses and decide systems and how they can be efficiently run? You do realise that business decisions are taken and strategies determined on the back of how customers behave? You do realise that if customers are not participating in self check out, and the bottom line of companies is affected, that companies will amend policies to increase their profit margin?

Differentstarts · 28/10/2024 06:26

NotAnotherCodeBlueAt3Am · 28/10/2024 06:20

You do realise that layers of management above them run businesses and decide systems and how they can be efficiently run? You do realise that business decisions are taken and strategies determined on the back of how customers behave? You do realise that if customers are not participating in self check out, and the bottom line of companies is affected, that companies will amend policies to increase their profit margin?

That has nothing to do with people leaving their shopping behind. Most people like self scan. I know I do. I don't want to queue and have to speak to the staff I don't see it as a social event. I want to get my shopping and be in and out

Mummyoflittledragon · 28/10/2024 06:28

harveyGaskellsMoll · 28/10/2024 06:11

A few months ago using a self scan with scan and go in my local Asda I got a quality check and a 95p item hadn’t scanned properly, it hadn’t registered on the scales as it was too light. It was a big shop over £80 and I’d think common sense would show it was obviously a mistake that there was only one cheap, light unscanned item.
The staff member doing the check made it into a huge issue and basically acted like I was a shoplifter.

The next time I went in when she was working I didn’t get an automatic quality check that showed on the scanner but she said there had been problems with the tills and had to check my shopping, she seemed almost disappointed that everything had been scanned. I was going to email and complain to Asda but in the end just thought she’s only doing her job.

I stopped using scan and go after that but in the evening when I shop there are only self checkouts open and every time she was working she was hovering around me, DP once said loudly “I wish that stupid woman would stop staring at us and do some work!” But she still stood watching us like we were criminals.

A few weeks ago she struck again, I go shopping late on as DP finishes work in the evening and has the car for work, there are usually lots of reduced items and on this occasion we decided to use scan and go again as we wanted to add it up as we went along because we were trying to stick to a budget. There were about 15 things in our trolley that were reduced. Again no quality check showed on the scanner but same woman rushed over and told me she had to check my trolley and do a full rescan and put it through the checkout. I wish I’d walked out but we really needed the shopping and it was decent stuff that was marked down.
At the end the total on my scanner was £74 but when she put it through the checkout it was £89, the manager gets called over and I get a lecture about how bad it is to shop lift and the impact it has on the store and other shoppers. The staff member said she needed to speak to the manager about involving the police. I was mystified as I’d made sure everything had scanned properly and counted items in my trolley and matched them to the total on the scanner.
The manager realised that the reduced items had scanned on the scanner but not added to the total of the shopping and explained to this staff member that I had indeed scanned everything but it was a fault on their end. I got no apology and other customers were staring at me and DP having our shopping checked by the manager with other staff all standing round us watching.

I was so embarrassed and humiliated and was almost in tears, DP was angry but just trying to pack it up quickly and get out.

I emailed ASDA but got no apology and just told that staff have to do quality checks in case of shoplifting or people “making errors whilst using self scan”
With the amount of staff that were standing watching that night and the manager involved surely one of them could operate a till?

I avoided going back but as it’s the only late opening supermarket and I needed to use the pharmacy one evening we went back, I thought we’d be left alone after what happened but same staff member homed in on us, we just left the trolley and walked out and haven’t been back.

This is why lots of people hate to use the self scan, as a pp said you watched and treated like a shoplifter even if you are just trying to scan your shopping, you often need approval anyway or coupons validated or something is too light. If they are that concerned about shop lifters that they have several staff standing round watching then why can’t those staff jump on a till?
Its put me off using any self checkout now and all for a genuine mistake and a technical fault that wasn’t down to me.

I recently went to Aldi with a full trolley and there was no one on the tills and just self checkout open, I asked if I someone could jump on a checkout and they were more then happy to open one up. I had nothing against a self checkout before but I doubt I’ll use one again now after what happened in ASDA.

Have you complained to the store manager about being harassed? Maybe ask the woman doing this to get her manager every time. She will eventually get the message.

Carpr · 28/10/2024 06:30

I have had this in shops, I just politely say no thanks. Though DH if no till is open goes to self service, calls the assistant over and then tells them he is not going to use this and they just put all the stuff through for him like at the till.

therewasafishinthepercolator · 28/10/2024 07:05

DD18 has a weekend job in a shop and they are told by management they should push customers to use the self-check out.

She'll ask them politely if they would like to use it and then offer to help them use it if they are unsure.

That's resulted in a few arsey "No, I want you to do it (at the regular till) because that's what you're paid to do."

Sounds like this guy went too far pushing you to self- check out but sometimes the staff are only doing what they're told.